Witcher Devs Pursuing Alleged Pirates

9 responses to “Witcher Devs Pursuing Alleged Pirates”

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   Sam

   December 17, 2011 at 9:31 am

   Yeaahh, not really understanding this, it’s hardly enough to make me act like a twat and do a 180 on the praise I’ve given CDProjeckt, but this seems… almost out of character? I just don’t see why you wouldn’t disclose how the info can be confirmed, I further don’t see how a seemingly exceedingly rational group can claim they’re 100% sure, nothing’s 100%, least of the supposition that ip address = person, and the claim just comes off as arrogant and ignorant.

   If I got mail telling me I owe someone money for stealing something, but despite claims they have proof they will not be showing it to anyone, I laugh and throw the letter out. It’s innocent until ‘proven’ guilty not innocent until ‘accused.’ (Yes I know this isn’t exactly the case in civil cases, but you certainly won’t/shouldn’t be convicted just because someone accused you)

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      Greg

      December 17, 2011 at 9:52 am

      they probably uploaded the withcer 2 to torrents themsleves with some tracking software embedded

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   2. 

      allanon10101

      December 17, 2011 at 11:55 am

      Actually, in civil cases it’s the accused who has the burden of proof, not the accuser. Additionally, it’s “balance of probability” in those cases, not “beyond a reasonable doubt”, meaning if they can provide sufficient evidence that you probably downloaded a pirated copy of the game, so long as that proof has not been obtained via illegal means you will most likely be compelled to make reasonable compensation to them unless you can conclusively prove that you did not do it

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         Link

         December 17, 2011 at 9:03 pm

         Ah allanon thats not totally correct its only in certain circumstance that its that, eg Discrimination cases companies have to prove that they didnt discriminate. its call a reverse onus of proof.but yes mostly civil is balance of probability certain instances its not though.

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   Zac

   December 17, 2011 at 9:50 am

   I’m assuming that they wouldn’t release the company through which the searches were conducted since if pirates know the company they would just try and hide from their techniques.
   And “wrongfully” accusing people who have “never heard of the game” is far too broad. I’m a huge Halo fan, howeverif someone was accusing me of pirating the game, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch for me to say I’d never heard of the game.
   Unfortunately for the legitimate non-pirates who were wi-fi hacked, if their address is the recorded address (assuming a 100% accurate identification) that is fair grounds for demand for payment. It’s unfortunate, but these wi-fi connections shoud be more secure

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      Thom

      December 17, 2011 at 10:04 am

      Actually, there are a crapload of issues beyond that, as revealed by recording studios litigation where it was found that ignoring whether you have secure network, its almost impossible to pinpoint the actual perp. Other methids like torrent tracking seem more reliable, but of course raise privacy concrrns.

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   Hyperthx

   December 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm

   Rebel Game Developers Vs Imperial pirates, hahaha

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   Jamal

   December 17, 2011 at 7:49 pm

   they are 100% sure but wont divulge evidence means they have none.

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   1. 

      Shane

      December 19, 2011 at 9:25 am

      If Project CD tell people how they are catching them, then pirates would know how to cover their tracks. Companies are always going to cop shit for attempting to chase down pirates, and their methods may not always be ideal, but pirating games hurts the industry and witcher’s sales vs downloads ratio is just painful, I don’t blame them for going to extreme lengths to catch those responsible.

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