Blizzard Admits That People May Be Leaving WoW For The Old Republic

Look, World of Warcraft still boasts a bigger population than some small countries. But there's been some shrinkage in recent months. Could the Force be a reason for the dip in subscribers?

Blizzard's finally saying that it might be. After previously making vague statements that intimated the launch of the EA/BioWare massive multiplayer game barely affected them, senior WoW producer John Lagrave tells Eurogamer that a drop from 11.1 million to 10.3 million over three months might be "attributable" to The Old Republic.

"Of course people are trying Star Wars - our development team are trying Star Wars! I'm one of the few people who's still playing it actually, but yeah we've seen a dip in subs. It certainly has to at least be attributable to The Old Republic, but it's also attributable to people who want to wait and get Mists of Pandaria, so it's not surprising."

Lagrave also waves off any speculation that WoW will be switch to a full free-to-play model anytime soon but says that Blizzard may extend the free trial to a higher level in the future.

Blizzard acknowledges Star Wars: The Old Republic's impact on WOW [Eurogamer, via Gamasutra]


    As a long term WoW fan(Active account since launch), who still fires it up from time to time for some comfort gaming I think it's just hit it's saturation point for many long term players who have gotten everything they can out of it. It's formula doesn't change and after awhile it starts to feel trite, I still love the hell out of it!

    But every new "big" MMO that comes out sees a dip in sub numbers for other established MMOs as people see what the hype is about.

    After playing ToR for 2 months (1 of those was free), I think I like the name I've seem some people call it - ToRTanic

      Must be those people who are still on the WoWTanic which is sitting at the bottom of the sea.

    I left World of Warcraft not for swtor. I left cos i've done eveything in the game. excepted for the battle master achievement, you name it i've done it.

      Post your play time. Haha

      I used to think that people wasted their lives on MMO's, then I realised that I can spend 150 hours playing single player games. I no longer judge.

      Still post your play time, I find it interesting. I stoppped playing Wow (in the early days) when I saw I had 30 days of game play.

        My playtime at last count was about 280 days or something redonkulous.
        Had it since '06. What I would really like to know about my / played is how long I spent of it AFK. Pressing the occasional button while waiting for a group for something. I think I realized one day that it wasn't fun anymore, and just something that I did. So I stopped. That was shortly after WOTLK... I have been hacked numerous times since then and regained access for Cata to find many more epix than I had before... No complaints Here! But I just leveled and then quit again.
        Unfortunately I have recently started playing TOR..... Grr.

      Except WoW is dwindling because it's old.
      SWTOR is dwindling because it's a clusterfuck of appalling design choices.

    Yeah, but has Blizzard released a patch that allows players to get spawnkilled?

    At the end of the day, Wow has achieved what no other game has achieved EVER.
    Massive market appeal, tens of millions of actve worldwide players, and players who have PAYED monthly fees for multiple years to keep playing. I know I've put in a good solid 6 years into Wow. I can't say I've ever done that for any other game (but to be honest I don't think I ever will again).

    The fact that subs go up and down is completely normal. I happens on a yearly basis, and has been happening for the last 7 years for wow. It's even evident on every level of the game, from overall subscription numbers, to attendance within guilds.
    It's normal, and tbh i dont think its any more news worthy than the weather.

    Gotta love how he still manages to have a dig at SWTOR with his backhanded compliment.

      It could also be fact, about 15 people I know all jumped on board and tried the game when it first came out but not one of them renewed their subscription.

      I didn't renew mine either.

    I tried SWTOR but I quit it after 1 1/2 months. Not kept up with it but bioware seemed more interested in adding new content than fixing bugs and issues. pvp queue bugs, horrible imbalance, shitty engine performance (why does opening your bags freeze your game for a split second?), instanced game worlds to the point where it feels like your playing a single player game with multiplayer chat enabled... Only thing I liked was the way they handled the single player storylines as the whole companion system.

    But remember out of those 10.3 million players only 3 to 4 mil are western full price subs....and THOSE are the ones leaving.

    That is what is hurting......

    Left WoW for ToR, not because WoW bad, but because I'd just burnt out of it. I'd cleared every HM raid, had a litany of achievements and titles (inc Salty) etc. ToR's great, I love star wars and I don't have to do as much 'maintenance' time as WoW to support a raiding schedule. Dailies are quite easily completed and give you a tonne of repair funding etc. Hence I usually only log on 1-2 times a week and have cleared nearly all content.

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