Reportedly Suicidal Player Laughed At, Then Trolled At EVE Online Gathering

At EVE Online's recent FanFest gathering, a panel got real unsavoury real fast when senior EVE players began not only mocking another player displaying suicidal tendencies, but encouraged others to do the same.

During a panel last Thursday, one moderated by a CCP employee (the developers of the game), a presentation/Q&A gets awkward when a few members up on stage can be seen to go after an individual player.

When "one of the players clearly indicated suicidal thoughts and showed 'obvious' signs of severe depression", instead of shutting the panel down and/or looking to get them some help, things got a whole lot worse.

"When this communication was shown to the audience the presenter, along with part of the audience of players and CCP representatives present all had a good laugh," another player present, and writing to Eurogamer, reports. "The presenter went on to encourage other players of Eve Online to harass this player in the hope that he would eventually be compelled to act on his suicidal thoughts."

"This player's in-game contact information was provided. I found this section of the presentation to be in extremely poor taste."

Oh dear. Regardless of whether the player in question really was suicidal or not isn't the point. Those involved couldn't have known that, so to attack them ran the risk of causing some very serious ramifications.

To its credit, CCP acted swiftly to condemn the actions of its players, issuing a statement that reads:

I want to reassure you that CCP in no way condones the harassment of players, especially those who suffer from depression or suicidal thoughts, as we understand the possible consequences of such abhorrent behaviour.

Our Terms of Service (TOS), which can be found here, mirror our company's stance on this matter.

While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, we do take very seriously accusations of such behaviour between our players.

Furthermore, we have a suicide hotline protocol which has, in specific cases, made a difference for several unfortunately troubled players. We appreciate you voicing your concerns on this level, and CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation.

We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others.

UPDATE: One of the panel members involved has written a heartfelt and very nice apology over on EVE's forums.

UPDATE 2: Here's some video footage of the panel.

CCP launches investigation after Eve Online FanFest panel accused of mocking suicidal player [Eurogamer]


    Oh wow! An EVE Online player whos claim to fame is being a notorious troll, general asshat and running an alliance full of the same type behaves exactly that way? Stop the presses!

    This isn't even newsworthy, it's totally been twisted by Plunkett to make a mountain out of a molehill and I'm pretty disappointed Kotaku AU reposted it.

      +1 This isn't news and is way out of context. Watch the vid.

    To its credit, CCP acted swiftly to condemn the actions of its players

    What about its staff? It sounds like the CCP reps were just as into it as everyone else.

    This really isn't that interesting in terms of drama in EVE Online, might want to read EVE news more

    Dude. Who the hell is surprised? I've tried EVE online for varying lengths of time over the years (still got a char sitting there with a few hundred mil skill points - could probably sell it for a couple hundred, hm... should look into that), and it has ALWAYS lived up to its reputation:

    Spreadsheets Online: Sociopaths in Space.

    EVE is NOT a friendly or inclusive space. It's basically 4chan with spaceships. And now that I know this, I'm much happier with it being what it is: a voluntary prison. Somewhere to condense the absolute detritus of the Internet, way the hell away from me and the places I want to be.

      (And having read the apology, specifically, "I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist," I really have to call bullshit.

      Every person who gets a thrill out of upset reactions to the quite seriously douchebag moves pulled on a minute-by-minute basis in EVE, is actually a closet sadist, is exhibiting psychologically disturbing behaviour, and shouldn't be making themselves feel better about it because 'it's just a game'. What they should be doing is closely examining their relationships in their 'real lives' and trying to ascertain just how badly their repressed anti-social traits are affecting the people around them.

      Being a decent human being is =not something you switch on and off.=

        You're no more a sociopath for griefing someone in EVE than you are for killing people in CoD. It's part of the game, it's deliberately designed to be that way. The only difference is that in CoD the death pentaly is smaller. You're not exactly making the scrub on the other team happy when you dominate him.

        People can be extremely mean to eachother in EVE because everyone KNOWS that it's a game. Maybe you have a problem if you can't understand the difference. No one can hurt you if you don't expose yourself to it. Don't like the idea of someone being able to destroy everything you own? Well just play a different game. Some people like the risk aspect.

    While we're on topic:

    This is news worthy?
    1. Its EVE, its a sandbox, people threaten, troll and laugh at each other all the time. Either take a teaspoon of concrete and toughen up or untinstall it.
    2. Ever played an online game, especially on Xbox live? Well if you have you've head people threatening each other all the time. BRING DOWN M$ AND XBOX LIVE!
    3. The 'suicidal' guy in question is just as likely to be making it all up to troll everyone else.

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