Okay, But What About All Those Tropes Vs. Orcs In Video Games?

Sure, the many problematic sexist tropes used to depict women in games are worth exploring. So too, apparently, are tropes vs men in games (enough to merit a bona-fide indidgogo fundraiser.)

But what about Orcs? Some jokers (or maybe actual Orcs!) have put together this draft kickstarter page to raise money for a film about all the problematic ways Orcs are depicted in games. Of course, this is a draft — it seems... unlikely that something like this would actually get approved by Kickstarter.

WIT' YER HELP I, WARLORD GROMUG, WILL KONSTRUKT A 5 VIDEO SERIEZ KALLED "TROPPZ vs DA ORKZ IN VIDYA GAMES", WOT WILL ECKSPLORE GREENSKIN CHARACKTER KLICHES THRU DA HISTRY O' DA GAME MANUFAKTORING. DIS AMBISHIUS PROJECKT WILL FOKUS ON DESE TROPPZ:

DA HORDE - VID #1

DA KILLIN' MACHINE - VID #2

DA DUMB MOOK - VID #3

DA STRONG SIDEKICK - VID #4

INSTRUMENT O' DESTRUKSHUN - VID #5

Okay, I know that the guys making this are likely the same generally assy dudes who have been "protesting" Anita Sarkeesian's video, but this also made me laugh?

Well, until I saw the bio for the project creator, "Warlord Gromug," which crosses into mean-town by more directly going after Sarkeesian:

Warlord Gromug is an ork warboss and socio-economic spectator who has an over-inflated sense of self-entitlement. He uses his meagre following to launch ill-fated attacks against Imperium space, as well as providing an important and fresh insight into modern pop culture. His videos are used as educational tools in classrooms and are screened at conferences and film festivals [citation needed]. He claims to speak internationally and lots of other things that appear to have no basis in truth.

Sigh. Guys, you had me laughing despite myself, but you just had to overstep, didn't you? Of course you did.

Oh, well. The first part was funny.

Tropes vs. Da Orkz in Vidya Gamez [Kickstarter - Though this will likely be taken down pretty soon.]

Thanks, Max.


Comments

    I'm confused. This feeling is becoming more and more common with non-Australian articles.

    This made me laugh. We should also highlight

    Tropes vs AI Computers in games?
    Tropes vs the Gay/Lesbian community in games?
    Tropes vs African Americans in games?
    Tropes vs Guidos in games?

    Basically what we're doing is finding a new avenue of life to turn stereotypes into an issue to cause thought-provoking drama. I prefer to look upon these topics with a sense of humour combined with the ability to laugh at myself. I remember that my days of being bullied turned around when I stopped trying to fight the bullies & learned to play the game with them.

    Did someone come across the "Prisoner Dilemma" in their D&D campaign?
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    ...you should let the Orc women and babies live.

    "Oh, well. The first part was funny."

    Pretty much. Then it got into the "I'm angry cause someone wants to actually think about things" bit and destroyed it's own amusingness(Wow, my spell checker thinks amusingness is a word? Go figure).

    If you think analysing tropes and cliches and shiz is stupid I really have no idea why you'd put energy into trying to stop those who find it interesting. Especially directly sending them hateful messages.

    Tropes Vs Tropes on tropes of tropes who troped the tropes

      You forgot 'Yo dawg..' at the start of that.

    the thing is someone got paid $100,000 to make videos about how women are portrayed in video games, this is the same as people do on youtube for free

    I've got the be honest, the thrust of that IGG project is not without merit.

    Discarding what they're focusing on as "trolling" or "an attack on soandso" is a disservice.

    It's a shame that the linked article is purely looking at a publicly viewable gdoc that may/may not actually be tied to the real IGG, and may simply be some random people who volunteered to help out and simply started to troll. Maybe those contributors were then kicked out?

    Like I said, it's a shame that their series is met with so much extra analysis and derision, and it's not applied equally. Perhaps focusing on the actual IGG page and the comments that anything over and above their costs will be donated to charity would be informative.

    Someone should make a Kickstarter to design a game where people of non specific gender find something to do that doesn't offend anyone.

      Thats... racist?

        As a half orc, I am offended that you only limit it to people of non-specific genders.

    To be honest, I am more interested in a genuine investigation into tropes vs. males in games. We know there's a problem with female representation, it's one of those things that's discussed every other day on gaming sites. Is there any truth to the common counter-argument that males are sexualised and mis-represented as well though? Is it just overshadowed by the bigger and more common topics?

      It's true, just not in the "like for like" way.

      There are levels of stereotypes and tropes applied to males in games and males in general culture, although they're generally different to the ones applied to females.

      As I said above, it's worth having this go ahead and take an honest look at the other side of the coin as well. It's not purely a "female" issue, it's an industry wide issue relating to both genders.

    to be fair, I've watched some of the tropes videos. And they are boring/obnoxious/self-ritghteous as hell.
    I think they deserve parodying

    I don't see why there's anything wrong with simply DISCUSSING the existence of sexist tropes.

    But I do have a problem when these discussions descend into blaming men. As if all men are in some giant conspiracy against all women. I've actually read feminist scholarship which seriously argued that ALL MEN are collectively responsible for rape... sure, not all feminists believe this, but some do.

    Also, sometimes some feminists come off as shaming men for finding women sexually attractive, i.e. criticizing men for liking fanservicey women. Instead of focusing on "these ladies are intended for a male audience, and we would like to see some characters that are intended for a female audience" (a reasonable request), the rhetoric often sounds like "HOW DARE MEN FIND WOMEN NICE TO LOOK AT!"

    I think that many feminist concerns would be received with FAR less hostility if they weren't backed with rhetoric that is easily interpreted as misandric.

    Additionally, the stereotypical depiction of men in video games is also something that legitimately deserves to be analyzed. This analysis would benefit both men AND women, because gender stereotypes are bad for everyone.

    A more concilatory rhetorical style that emphasized how both men and women would benefit from analysis of video game gender cliches, rather than using these arguments to play Oppression Olympics and assign collective blame, would be welcomed (at least by me).

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