Tekken Head Unleashes Twitter Tirade

When classic games are re-released, there can often be fan discontent about the quality of the porting job. If too many things are changed, fans are upset. This can be particularly dicy with voice-acting, given that many older games used outdated technology to record and compress audio, and many of the voice actors that worked on a given game may no longer be working or available.

Tekken Game Director Katsuhiro Harada has had enough of complaining Tekken fans, issuing the following fairly epic rant yesterday via TwitLonger:

I have something I want to say to the people who spam me with requests to "switch back(or Bring back) to the voice actors used previously".

I believe that, before whining and complaining about everything, you need practice at taking a step back and analysing things objectively. And also at being an adult.

First, the voice you were listening to was 16 years ago, during the PlayStation period. The current generation of consoles are totally different in how they play back sound; both software-wise, and the internal circuitry

The playback program is different, as well as the sound effects added; reverb and 5.1 are examples of this. The comrpression rate, as well as the sound rate, is different today. Are you playing games on the same TV you used 16 years ago? What about your speakers? Headphones? They are all the same as 16 years ago? I wonder if it will sound like the same voice as 16 years ago, even with that data..

Also, you are assuming the voice actors themselves can reproduce the voice the recorded 16 years ago? Many voice actors decline work because their voice has changed since the original role, some have even retired. Sometimes they won't accept, even if we ask.

The recording studio and the equipment they use is also different. With all of this in mind, you still thing it is possible to recreate these voices?

Some might say "just pay them to reuse the voice data".

But, often the voice actors decline this, or their agency declines.

For example, Brian's laugh is the actual data from Tekken 3. As fans have requested, we've kept using the original, adapting the data recorded 16 years ago to be used on the PS2, and then PS3.

Even so, some people said it is a different voice in Tekken 6 than the original.

It can't be helped they might think that. As explained above, even though the master data is the same, all of the equipment used in adapting it has completely changed. That said, it isn't a good idea to try to reccreate the older recording environment because then the data sounds heavily compressed, with noise. More than that, it would sound out of place next to the voice data of the newer characters.

WHAT? You say some of the voices sound like they haven't changed at all?

I guess you didn't notice that the development team has re-recorded them, but made efforts for it to sound as close as possible to the original. And you probably didn't even notice.

Do you know that all of the voice work for a character is not always done by just one voice actor? Using Brian as an example, the laugh you guys love so much uses the original data from Tekken 3, but the short kiai voice uses a different voice actor, and the "come on!" voice also uses a different voice actor. A lot of other characters also use different voice actors for the spoken lines and for the shouts.

I did the voice work for Marshal and Forest for 15 years.

However, I can no longer produce that voice after Tekken 5, so we had a different voice actor for Tekken 6.

The Tekken series has continued for 17 years. The development environment, as well as the environment in which you all play games, has changed.

There are so many characters, and we can't keep using he same voice actors every time, for a variety of reasons.

I have even complied to the requests of you all spamming me to "bring back characters" from previous installments. You often say, "let's show the dev team how sincere we are by buying 2 copies if they bring back character X", but did you really go through with it? Expecting you to at least pre-order the game, I was met with more spam, after you apparently didn't notice that Jun and Michelle actually return.

I still have some characters left to be revealed that comply with some of your requests, even "bringing back" several others. Even so, none of them are paid DLC. I will continue to sincerely comply with fan requests.

However, I can't continue to engage the negative ones that, without knowing what you are talking about, or even thinking about what you are saying, blindly repeat "bring back, bring back, bring back..."

After this lengthy explanation, I will be quite surprised if there are still people who still don't get it.

Thanks for understanding or not understanding. Whatever.

Dang.


Comments

    Katsuhiro Harada, laying the smack down!

    and that's why we don't like the self-entitled gamers people have become in recent years...

      Well said, so many of them these days..

      I agree!

      Bring back the days of old, where all we had was pacman!

      (geddit? GEDDIT?)

      there's a difference between a self-entitled gamer and a customer that was lied to. Katsuhiro Harada has managed to explain everything very clearly and logically, because the complaints he was getting are actually from self-entitled gamers.

      You know why Bioware has not been able to do the same about the complaints their customers have raised, because the majority of the complaints are valid and not raised by self-entitled gamers, but by consumers who were lied to.

        But they weren't lied to. They interpreted Bioware's words based on their own expectations and when their expectations weren't met, they started overreacting.
        http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/06/mass-effect-3-ending-complaints-rejected-by-asa/

    Good on him. I think sometimes we should let devs have a bit of a vent too. Even in my job, sometimes i just have to tell a customer when they are being down right stupid. Can only imagine the frustration they feel towards some of the dumb requests they get spammed with.

    Seriously, if voice acting is the most important thing to a player in a fighting game, i think they are missing the point.

      Pfft, no you don't. Otherwise they'd be asking for your job. Then you'll be posting on "Not Always Right" blog.

        Infact i do. I am lucky in my job that i have regular clients who are capable of taking criticism. But sometimes people do need a pat on the head and steered in the right direction. other times i am lucky enough to get away with telling people that they are perhaps being a bit stupid.

        Also just because you think someone is being a keyboard warrior doesnt mean they are lying, perhaps the correct line of commentary would be "damnit what job are you in , i want that job" rather than being narrow minded and assuming i am talking out my ass.

          Dude, calm down, I was saying the the type of customer who needs to be told they're an idiot are usually the people who demand supervisors and send complaints to get you fired.

        Im with blood apathy on that neo.... not the first time ive had to tell customers their iq was the equivalent of a lamp posts'.

    Good to see a Developer come back tell people to calm down, sit down and shut up!

    anyone else reapect the man
    alot more after this?

    Thing is though. Those of us that are old enough to have played the original Tekkens, should know better.
    Pretty sad really.

      I dont think age has anything to do with it. Its the culture sadly. We all seem to know it, but so many people are just "we want we want we want". Its easy to get caught up with the things we'd like to see as we are not in a position to give a crap about how plausible the idea is right or wrong.

    I was expecting a mad rant or something similar, but this was a very tempered and mature response. Brilliant.

      Considering the word tirade was used in the title, I thought it was going to be a angry rant. This isn't a tirade, it's simply explaining to spoilt, self-entitled, man-child gamers the technical and contractual/legal limitations.

      Thumbs up from me. Gamers are jerks, put them in their place.

    I know it's a Tekken article, and this is an MK line but... Flawless Victory.

    I don't even like Tekken, but if I preorder the next one, can you guys include a printed copy of that speech in the collectors edition?

    Like. A. BOSS!

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