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    Abe's Oddysee HD! EXCITEMENT

    They changed his voice though... DISAPPOINTMENT

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      I like the stop motion feel! Never actually played the original for more than five minutes, alas.

      I had the demo of this game on my PS1 but I just played the first level. To be honest I just spent half the time farting on guards. Maybe I'll grab the HD version when it releases.

        Oh man, farting in that game was hilarious back in the day (who am I kidding, it still is...) My cousins and I would play that game every time I visited them. The person playing would just walk around the level farting while the rest of us were rolling around the floor laughing our heads off.

    come on bring xcom enemy unknown out already

      The demo was freakin' great! Unfortunately it'll have to wait until after Dishonored for me. :'(

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        yeah, why do 2 amazing games come out at the same time /o\

          Any one know why the demo was 5gb? Was it more like a pre-load thing? Definitely was too short to justitify the size.

            You gotta remember that even though the demo may be limited maps, it still has to download the engine/inner workings of the game, the used textures and all that. It's not like you can extract 10% of the game and expect it to be 10% file size.

              The voice of reason! Still odd that much prettier games can condense the size, though. :P

                And Borderlands 2 slides in at a what, not even 5GB for the entire game on PC?
                Far cry 2 was about 3gbs on disc.
                And Shogun 2 is like a 30GB download.
                Good download, that!

                  Holy damn! That'd cap my internet for sure. :S

          3! Pokemon.

            oh god Bish, Canadaland has eaten your profile picture thingie or something!

    Z0mg silly weekends. I like weekends. But then I don't like working after them. I'd like to be able to bank my weekends. Work until I've got 6 months worth of weekends, then take an extra month off out of my leave. Shit yes.

      You need another picnic day by the sounds of it. :D

      My aunt does something interesting.
      Every year, she saves at last 20% of her income. Come the fifth year, she takes the entire year off, with an effective full year of pay saved up to do whatever she wants. Travelling, gardening, renovations, whatever.
      She works for the government and reasonably high up, from what I gather, and I think she's been around long enough to be able to do that.
      A full year off. Wouldn't that be grand.

    Well, you know that patch that was supposedly downloading:

    'An error occurred during the download operation. (80710723).'


    When I get a PS4 and transfer all my PS3 games and data(hopefully the PS4 can do that) I will throw this console out of an open window get a bat, wear some gloves and safety goggles, then smash the shit out of this thing. Smash and smash and smash. (I've always wanted to recklessly destroy a piece of technology)

    The best thing is, my anger will be brewing for about a year and a half(or whenever the PS4 comes out) and it will be a sweet release when I destroy this black monster with its green lights and dust filled shiny top.
    (I still love you PS3 *sniff*)
    Either that or maybe I will;

    1 just switch it off and try again later today.
    2. Sell it at a pawn shop
    3. Give it to someone who has no console.

    I don't know what's inside my PS3, my laptop works fine and is downloading everything really well.

    Oh well, that's life I guess. Now what to do for the rest of the day.

      I don't think I've ever had an issue downloading anything on my PS3. What PS3 are you using? One of the old ones or a slim?

        One of the older PS3 models. Not the backwards compatible one but the model after, the 80GB fat.

        Are the slims better with downloading? Because if i can save who knows maybe I can grab the AC3/FIFA 13 bundle of the new slims that will be released later this month.

          I don't know if the slims are better, but as I said, I've never had an issue downloading anything. Maybe it's your internet rather than the ps3?

            My internet works fine on my laptop so I don't think that's the issue. Hopefully it works later on.

      I liked when my PS3 downloaded 90% of Infamous and then was all 'nah' and deleted it all because I didn't set it to download in the background.

      I wouldn't make plans like that yet, because I'm very very sceptical as to whether the next Playstation will have backwards compatibility with PS3. Fairly sure Sony is going to go with off the shelf commodity hardware and not that crazy complicated Cell bullshit again, and PS3 games are going to be a massive struggle to run on a general-purpose CPU because of all the weirdness that thing has.

        Here's hoping reliable emulators on the PC ain't too far away when next gen starts.

        True. Maybe I'll just get a new PS3 instead. I'll see. There are still a few weeks before holiday sales begin so if I can find an awesome price on a new console I just might be tempted.

        On the other hand there are some system specific save files :-(

    So weekend was quite good, sad that I missed Splicer's meat but with teh grand final on I was over at the in laws. Started out supporting hawks but they were so over the top with their support I had to switch to the bloods. Although I made sure it was low key so that I didn't get kicked out of the house,
    Was a great match to watch followed by various BBQ meat goodness so overall quite enjoyable.

    But the most important thing was I was able to outsource my picture for Strange to my niece
    She is ridiculously talented and so very happy with it

    Sunday was a sleep in day followed by lots of clicky click in torchlight 2

      Oh, man. That picture is freakin' awesome. Your niece has the skills to pay the bills.

        It is :D

        I love the way that she has the colours we wear down, even though we were not wearing those colours on the day. Also the fact she can get our height difference in there (While making he auntie a little taller to make her feel good).
        I think my wife is planning on getting it framed to keep at the office on her desk

          Also perspective with your eyes there

      That picture is all sorts of great! :D

    Good morning to everyone on this fantastic Monday the 1st of October. I've been waitIng very patiently for this month it's gonna be awesome.

    Especially the 31st cause imma wake up run in a straight line through everything from my place to EB games. Get AC3 play it for 8 or so hours then if all goes well dress up as Eddie from Rocky Horror and go see it on the big screen. (if I can be bothered to get a costume together)

      I honestly can't wait for Assassin's Creed 3. That early U.S. history time period interests me a whole damn lot and it will be great to see a proper AC sequel! What's the Rocky Horror significance for October? (Only asking cause TheL4stQuestion saw it on the weekend too!)

        Halloween would be my best guess.
        Also, AC3 \o/

        Several movie theatres are playing it on October 31st. Maybe for Halloween idk I just wanna see it in the big screen

    Melbourne Meat Write Up (or at least part of it).
    I had an insanely busy day on Saturday but I finally got round to picking up Greenius around 3:30. Turns out he lives about 15 min away from me and it wasn’t far out of my way. We had a lovely drive down the Monash Freeway complete with torrential rain and brief hail. I actually had to pull over because I couldn’t see anything, though that only lasted a few minutes. Yay for Melbourne weather.
    We arrived at Splicer’s just past 4 and were welcomed by the host himself, Techknight, Beavwa and his other half Princess Pip and Jordi. We were also greeted by alcoholic brownies which were awesome! The group was watching some youtube game videos and then we watched COPS: Skyrim.
    At some point Negative Zero arrived, this may have been before or with #35 and his two mates. I’m not sure because at this stage I was busy getting my ass kicked in Mortal Kombat. Once more people arrived we moved on to some 4 player games – in this case, Twisted Metal. Jordi is truly terrifying. I think she actually won the round that she played amidst lots of screaming and profanity.
    During the carnage of Twisted Metal Splicer let his dogs in, a cubby Pug named Bella (looks totally like Kristen Stewart, I swear) and an awesome cowardly Husky called Kaiser. Kaiser continued to prove how terrifying Jordi is as the poor guy hid under the coffee table every time she yelled at him.
    At this stage the meat numbered about 11 meat sacks, and therefore we had to move to activities designed for the masses. Lots of people brought many board games, but it appeared that the majority wanted to give my Cards Against Humanity a go. We moved to the kitchen table and hilarity ensued. It’s hard to describe the fun we had, you just had to be there. I find the game varies a lot depending on the group of people you play it with. It turned out that this group of people was perfect and we laughed until it hurt.
    At one point it looked like we had had enough and I started to back up the cards, until someone asked me what I was doing and why I wasn’t shuffling for the next game. Sometime during game 2 Pizza arrived and Splicer was spot on in his pizza – people ratio (which is never easy). A quick look at my phone revealed that it was now about 10:30, time sure does fly. I had another party to make an appearance at, so when the second game of CAH wrapped up I said my farewells. Someone I will have to fill in what happened after I left.
    It was an awesome day, and I could have stayed there all night. Had a great time and it looked like everyone enjoyed themselves. Thanks again to Splicer and his very understanding wife for inviting us round!
    Quote of the night (at least while I was still there) goes to Jordi “I like fingering”, no context required.
    Left to Right (back):
    Greenius, Tech Knight, Splicer, Inquisitorsz, #35's frond #1, #35, NegativeZero, #35's frond #2.
    Left to right(front):
    Beavwa and his lovely GF Pip, Jordi

      Haha! Sounds like good times a-plenty! Huskies are awesome, my neighbour has one. It stands on the roof of their car port and stares through my window at me.

      What did 35's friends make of you all? :D

        Great write-up Inquisitorsz :)
        I think the friends already knew about us. They were pre-warned I think.
        It was a great day/night and Cards against Humanity...oh dear wrong but so funny.
        After Inquisitorsz left we all moved to the lounge room and chatted for a bit, then it was decided another game was in order, so this time, Scene It: The movie trivia board game was the go.
        We broke into teams of 2 and it looked like Tech Knight and I would trounce averybody with our spectacular array of movie knowledge. When were on the home stretch and got pinged at the post by Team Greenius.
        Next time Gadget, next time. After that, we chatted some more, turns out i'd seen Pip before when she worked at Draculas. Then we looked at the time and I think it was after 1am and we all decided to call it a night.
        My dogs were shattered, I don't think they've ever had so many pats in a single day. Plus I showed everyone at the meat Kaiser's lovely singing(howling) voice, which everyone though was hysterical.
        Then I found leftover pizza :)

          That Scene it trouncing was mainly you though xD. If we didn't get turn-skipped so many times we would've won miles in front, plus what the heck was with that easy set of 3 final cuts for team greenius!? :P

      Awww man.. now i'm even more bummed i couldn't make it.

      Glad you all had a killer time! :D

      I'm still yet to play Cards Against Humanity. I have no idea what it is, but TAY Marketing makes me want to play it. It's good to put a face to the usernames as well! (Have we ever taken a group picture with the Sydney TAYbes? I don't even know...)

      ps. It's disappointing to find out that Greenius is not the Melbourne-Bish. Show us your cooking skills! They do both wear coloured hoodies though, so there's that. And the asian-ness.

        Is that racial profiling? :P

          They know I'm JOKING! Mostly.


          (You made me ruin my so-far perfect "No Emoticon Monday" run!)

            :'( I was going to attempt that too, as you can see... no dice so far. :P

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        There are too many Sydney TAYbies for a group photo! I have a few photos from Pez's housewarming that are cluttered with people, and it's still not everyone who was there.

        CAH is so awesome. Cakesmith has a set. He keeps bringing it with him when we go to Pez's but we never actually get around to playing it...

          I think most of the TAYbies I've seen before have been from wacky antics captured on film. Sughly riding Trjn. Flu and Rockets singing in the street. AlexPants at the children's playground. Bohemian Rhapsody. (On multiple occassions. :P)

            "AlexPants at the children's playground."

            Weird times.


              Can't forget Aleph's crazy outback adventure tours too.

          We'll get everyone to line up holding hands and take a panoramic shot. Then we can take another picture of the first and last person holding hands and photoshop it together into a never-ending picture loop of Sydney TAY goodness.

            Panoramic Meat!

            This is only acceptable if everybody is chanting something ominous so we can scare passersby.

          We tried, once. No, twice.
          In that horrible, horrible picture booth at Galaxy World.

        CAH is definitely not a game for the easily offended. It's basically as if 4chan /b/ made a madlibs game.

          Note to self: Don't wear easily-breakable monocle when playing Cards Against Humanity.

        Peeps were all Y U NO GREEN so I Green.

        I am Helpius but I ain't no Bish.

        Cards against humanity is amazingly fun, though I think Beavwa should be banned from playing it now...
        His very sick mind shows thru too much.

      So that's what Melbourne TAYbies look like! I don't think I've ever seen pictures of any of you before!

      I was actually there fairly early, but had forgotten my stack of board games so Beavwa and I went back to my place to grab them, which was a bit longer a drive than I had though (complicated by the fact that I made a wrong turn and didn't realise).

      Then it turned out we didn't even need the games and it's all Cards Against Humanity's fault :(

        Yeah sorry about that :(

          I wasn't at all worried really, we had too many people for most of my games so we'd have had to play two separate games or go in teams.

      Glad you liked the brownies.
      Happy to make them for all appropriate melb MEATs.
      Also, awesome night on sat guys, thanx fronds. :D


    Ho shit! I never thought of that before! It's hard to say since it just kind of happened in BL1 and the original really did not have a story, so it was never explained.

    Best not to think about plot holes and just pew pew pew

      Yeah, it's something easily forgiven. Whfg obgurerq zr jura abgnoyr qrnguf unccrarq.

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        Jryy, gung'f whfg zl gnxr ba vg, naljnl.

          I guess BioShock and System Shock 2 have similar predicaments too.

    Morning, TAY.
    Footy's over.
    Now I have to wait nearly two months for the cricket... know, cricket?
    That thing were a guy chucks a ball at another guy who has to hit the ball with a plank of wood, and there are a bunch of other guys trying to catch the ball or grab it and throw it at three smaller bits of wood before the guy with the plank gets across the line...
    Aww... :(

      I used to score so many points back when I was a regular swinger of the cricket club

      And then not long until January and the Tennis!

      I will accept no "Sportsball" type jokes during the Australian Open. You all have to watch and enjoy it. Actually, I take that back. I love those jokes too much...

      Runplankball? Yeah, I've played it. I tripped on the spikes and managed to dislocate the opposition's defender's shoulder while running through their gauntlet.
      I hear they wear better armour these days though?

        Eyelandt hazing?

      ohhhhhh, righhhht the one where they have to get homeruns

        I like the part where they guy yells "STRIKE 3!"

          no no no. This is the one where the naked guy comes running on to the picture and all the players go "aawwww Warnie"

            Naked guys and swingers? Man I want to play your cricket.

              And pictures apparently. Not sure how you play on a picture instead of a pitch but, well it is an interesting game

    It's been one month- one month exactly since I came to the land of.. well, honestly I don't know Australia well enough to make a statement about that, you guys can fill that in.

    No job
    No plan for the future
    Pretty broke
    Feel like I'm mooching off relatives (I'm staying with them, and to be honest not really feel like so, but it's there on the outskirts of my mind)

    Got Borderlands 2
    I found out Starburst, which normally is just the little square cubes of psuedo-gum in NA, make gummy worms and all that jazz. That's pretty damn cool.

    Therefore the month has been a success. Carry on, TAY.

      I hope that con list whittles down a little bit more! You're a welcome addition to TAY, man. Hope you have plenty of adventures while you're here!

      You forgot Tim Tams on the pros bit!

      I hope more of those cons turn into pros before you have to....

      boom boom

      Tim Tams



          Pavlova! Any thing mango related, wait until Summer comes around my friend!

            Mango sorbet is fantastic. I had it for the first time December last year and it was mmmmmmmmmm awesome.

              :D Mango Wies bars satisfy the craving until the real thing comes along! Have you had a Wies bar yet, Saturday? If not, put down whatever it is you're doing and freakin' run to the store! Post haste! :P

                I've actually never had Weis bars or any Weis product for that matter. I guess they are always in the none home brand sections of the supermarket and as a student I barely visit those zones :-)

                That or maybe it's because Aldi doesn't stock them. I'll check them out and hopefully they are on sale next time I go shopping.

                  Be sure to post a write-up after you taste them! :D

            Pavlova is awesome but is a New Zealand invention, not Australian. Not that that matters but it should be said.

              Haha! NZ, Aus. Practically the same thing. Just like Canada is the U.S. *waits for the inevitable beating Saturday is sure to give me.*

                I'm pretty sure Bish has a better idea of what Canada's like more than me.

                "We have trees and rocks and trees and rocks and water," etc.

              as i mentioned, my family made the pavlova, it is definitely not new Zealand we have a bunch of proof (seriously, we have to defend it like mad, so many angry new zealanders)

                Your family has my respect then. :D It still warps my mind that food can be invented. :P

                Except there are recipes which predate the 'invention' by Sachse by half a decade.

                  those are a different recipe, the one in the new Zealand newspaper was for a "meringue cake" which didn't have the soft centre that sachse made when he made it.


              damn phone
              Herbert sachse

                Sherbert Chase

          I haven't had a lamington in years. I hate lamingtons, but I really want one :S

            I had lammingtons on international food day a while ago. But they had no jam.
            How can you have lamingtons without jam, it just doesn't work. It's like a schnitzel without a Tuesday

              But schnitzels without Tuesdays work just fine! It's only when the Tuesday occurs without the schnitzel that the world begins to tear and the seams.

              But yeah. Lamington without jam is... wrong.

              What! Lamingtons with jam are a travesty! Though they're not as bad as those ones with that horrible fake cream in them...

              Plain lamingtons are the only way to go!

                He might be a racial profiler, but I agree with Powalen in this instance. :P

                  It's ok D.C, you don't have to agree with a clearly wrong opinion just to make up for your previous comments.
                  Although any cream is wrong, fake cream is a travesty. On that we can all agree

      Pros: Hungry
      Cons: Hungry

      damnnn youuu TAYYYY

        Being hungry can be a pro? :P

        I guess it makes the next meal extra awesome. I'm hungry too, not sure what I want for lunch...

          Just thinking of the exotic desserts your land has to offer is a pretty awesome pro, to be honest.


      I know what you mean about the mooching.
      Staying with my relatives in this homeland of yours, and I feel like I should be paying rent or something. But they're too nice and pleasant and all "pshaw, naahhhhhhh" and I'm all /o\

      You should meat the Sydney TAYbies, and have a grand ole night out. There won't be any surly jerk to bring the mood down.

        REVERSE ME? I am insulted. If anything, you're the NEGA-ME. Or Bizarro Saturday. Or Dark Link. Whatever.

        BTW, I've been curious, but whereabouts in canadia are you at, bish? cause I'm from vancouver (west coast) and I can't really imagine living there willingly.

          My experience of Vancouver was being stuck there for 8 hours while Air Canada bumped me from flight to flight because Immigration held me up so that I missed my domestic flight.
          So yeah, not the best experience.

            Air Canada sucks, so yeah.

            Toronto. Good, good. Quebec would'a been your best shot, but east coast is wwaaay better than west, in terms of actual crap to do. And god help you if you're in the prairies. I dunno about the far east, aka PEI and Newfoundland and all that. Their accents are actual accents! Crazy.

              Quebec would make me feel inadequate that I can't speak French.

              When I was in Paris, parlez vous anglais was the only phrase I knew. :P

                It helps to also know "Je ne parle pas francais," as that helps reinforce the point.

    Fronds, I never played Zone of the Enders when it was fresh but I see that it's getting an HD re-release soon. Should I get this at some point? I like ridable robots.

      I have the first game on PS2 but I never played it and now it's part of a HD collection. I had the sly trilogy on PS2, never finished it. The Jak and Daxter trilogy, never finished them. Now both those series have HD collections. /o\ At this rate I think most of my unplayed PS3 games will have PS4 re-releases before I play them.

      I should really change this habit.

        I feel similarly. But I did actually finish Sly 2.


            I'm not buying anything (except Persona 4 and Mugen Souls because they're actual LEs) until Ni no Kuni. So I'm trying to do that.

      I honestly dont know why people love the PS2 games so much.
      They were alright, I guess, but I never got into them.
      Fist of Mars on the GBA though. That was great.

    Apparently in the 10 years since I was the undisputed champion of the university Tekken Tag Tournament machine I have become completely pants at Tekken. Record in online play: about 20% wins. I'm a scrub again!

    It's kinda weird though, I'll play against characters from the good old days and I'll be able to block stuff on reaction and feel like I'm 21 again, and then someone will bust out a Leo or a Zafina or an Alisa or something, and I'll be like "herp derp, just use the same two strings on me 10 times in a row while I stand there like an idiot with no idea what I can duck and what's punishable".

    And here I was thinking that fighting games basically never changed.

      If it's any consolation, I've always been terrible at fighting games! :D

        But a dirty Mario Karting cheat!

      It's funny how muscle memory works. It's like in Arkham City, by the end of the game your fingers know the wacky combos.

        My muscle memory never works properly in these games. I undoubtedly played hundreds of hours of Tekken Tag at university and could still screw up a basic crouch-dash motion. The good news is that I'm still just as quasi-competent at that as I always was!

        Actually, what muscle memory I do have is working against me a bit. The game has sped up since TTT (I know it's not just my imagination because I came across an old TTT machine back in July and had a few games then) and I have a tendency not to press the keys for combos fast enough. Or I press for combos which used to exist and don't exist anymore. I have a lot of learning ahead of me... and with X-Com and Dishonored coming out, I suspect I'm not going to end up putting in the time. Still lots of fun, though.

        I found with Arkham City it wasn't so much of a problem of learning combos as much as learning timing and movement. Especially the stuff where you have to play as Catwoman, you need to be constantly moving, quick attacks and then get out of the way. With Batman it's all about getting the counter timing right.

          Oh, man. I feel like playing Arkham again. :D I find the problem with combos is learning them, then moving onto the next game with combos that are completely different. A brave new world of button mashing.


    I got this new phone which means I don't have my old blizzard authenticator. Which means wont let me log in. And is making life extremely difficult to attempt removing the authenticator.

      You didn't write the code down? This is why I have my authenticator working on multiple devices and a record of the serial number stored for safekeeping. Never know when your phone might die.

        Didn't know I had to until now. Only made a battlenet account a few weeks ago.

        Just gave up and made a new account.

    Also, Dr. Phil is assaulting a muppet on Sesame Street.

    Everything is normal. Nothing to see here.

      "Oscar, the reason you're green and angry is because everyone else on Sesame Street doesn't live in filth like you do!"

        Oh, man. I imagine the crying that'll ensue when it's Bert and Earnies turn. :P

          "If you were Gay, that'd be okay, I mean cos Hey, I'd like you anyway,
          Because you see, if it were me, I would feel free to say that I was gay.
          But I'm not gay!"

    Morning folks.

      Hey, man! Hope this day finds you well!

      Ghost Slime!
      Good morning!

      Why worry? Each one of us is wearing a unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.

      .. Morning.

        Yesssss, Ghostbusters reference. o/

    Why did I stay up to 4:30 am last night reading ? WHY!

      I do that with Wikipedia from time-to-time, spend hours clicking links and tumbling down the rabbit hole. :P

        Wikipedia always ends in Hitler or the Inquisition.
        WebMD always ends in Cancer.


        I do that on the 40k wiki and on any new comics i happen to stumble across that are pretty awesome

          Oh, man. Last time Assassin's Creed came out I got hooked on the lore. Spent freakin' ages on the Wikia. Just another link. Just another link.

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    So friends, since I'm sure you're all desperate to know what's happening in my life, I will be in Sydney next weekend. I'm going up on Saturday, seeing a musical(Legally Blonde. Not even I can add "manly" to the end of that one.), and staying overnight in Sydney. This means that if anything is happening on Sunday, I can totally come along, and mooch off all you lovely people!

    Or I can drive back to Canberra with my family. Which will be about as fascinating as it sounds.

      A lot of people seem to be going to the EB Expo, but nobody is mentioning a time and a place to meat! Suspicious, suspicious...

        Maybe the Sydney TAYbies have disbanded.

          Yeah, I have no idea what's going on about that.


            I WANT TO MEAT!

            I just don't know if it's worth seeing if I can buy a last minute ticket to the expo, or if I should just hang around outside looking for streetpass hits...

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              See, progress.

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                  I'll buy you a ticket! I probably can't go because work so I'd love it if you could go. And take my 3ds for the streetpasses.

          Maybe the Sydney TAYbies only existed in my nightmares.



    "This is rapture farms, they say its the biggest meat processing plant on Oddworld. Thats me! My name is Abe. I used to work, well actually I was a slave like all the others."

    Like Masha I only ever had the demo but I've always wanted to play it proper. I never finished Strangers Wrath but I did enjoy it.

      I read that in Abe's voice. Awesome, just awesome :D

        I also read it in Abe's voice. I also only had the demo, same as Tombi

        They changed his voice for the HD remake though D:
        Changed it from the first game, anyway. I haven't played any of the sequels.


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      Now I can't help but see the CEO in Abe as Andrew Ryan

      Follow me.

    Uni has returnethed...
    But on a sloghtly happier note - only 7 weeks and 10 assignments to go and it is done! Forever! (or at least for a couple of years)

      Enjoy it while it lasts, you'll miss it more than you know!

      Ugh Uni!

      I almost died in my lecture and tute today. So tired and sick of this crap :P

        Oh, I should say. You'll miss the social element of Uni. Not the assignments. Not the lectures. Not the tutes. :P

          Wrong person!

          I think she'll miss all the Terraria time ;). Btw those brownies were tasty!

          If I could change one thing about my time at Uni it would be picking a more mainstream degree so that I could've been in the same pool of students throughout the years (My degree was dropped after my first year and I had the choice of continuing or changing to a similar IT degree. Having to jump between lots of different classes/schools doesn't really let you make lasting friendships :P)


    Argh! This is incredibly frustrating and I’d very much appreciate some computer help.

    My internet connection on my desktop has been absolutely shocking lately and it’s been pretty terrible for the past year or so. Right now it’s disconnecting every minute and it keeps saying something about not being able to connect and when doing the default normal troubleshooting problem fix/detection thing it either says a problem can’t be detected or it ‘fixes’ it and says the problem is fixed, only to have it disconnect a minute later.

    I’m not sure what’s causing these problems but basically it either has trouble connecting wirelessly to my modem/network or it keeps disconnecting. Everything used to be fine until about a year or so ago. I have a few ‘theories’ as to why this is happening. I also have trouble connecting wirelessly with my Xbox or PS3 but turning the modem off and on again usually lets me connect (this also sometimes fixes my PC problems).

    One reason might be that more devices are using my wireless internet so it’s interfering with my connection. Up until a year or so ago it was pretty much just my desktop and consoles using it with maybe 1-3 of them connected at any given time. Now there is something like 2 tablets, 2 desktops (one on wired connection), 3 iPhones, 2 laptops and my game consoles that use it. All these devices aren’t using it at the same time but most of the time when my parents are home, it could be something like 3-5. In my mind this kind of makes sense but right now it’s just my desktop and my iPhone and there are still problems.

    Another reason might be the wireless card my desktop has. This could be having problems which may be the cause of some of the stuff I’m experiencing and it could also have a low connection range. I wouldn’t say my PC is that far from the modem but there’s a bunch of walls/floors between them (PC is in my room, modem is downstairs). Generally my desktop never displays full bars of connection range but it’s usually always in the ‘good’ section. My laptop and other devices can connect fine from the same range or even further out. It can also display the wireless network BigPond____ but just can’t connect. I assume if there was a problem with the card it wouldn’t even display it?

    I do torrent a bit but I’ve never had a problem on anything I’ve downloaded stuff onto. I use Microsoft Security Essentials and from what it tells me, it doesn’t look like I have any viruses that could be interfering with this connection.

    I don’t know much about computers, networks and all of this type of stuff so any help/advice/insight would be appreciated. I really don’t know what the problem is and finding a solution is going to be even harder. If you need more information I’ll type up more but this is a long shot and I don’t think it’s going to be easily fixed :/. I really don’t understand why this is happening when everything else can connect fine. Yes, I’ve tried turning it all off and on again but it fixes nothing… Thanks in advance though!


    TL;DR – I either can’t connect to the internet or I keep disconnecting. Can you please help? :’(. Thanks.

    (will probably repost on the next page because I'm Needius)

      Do you have the option to plug directly into the router rather than use the wireless?
      The first thing I would be trying to confirm is if it is a issue with your setup/hardware or a downstream issue with your connection.
      Take out as many bits and pieces between the connection and your PC as possible and see if you have an issue. If you are having the issues when not on the wireless it is either your router/modem or a problem with you supplier

        This. The trick to troubleshooting a problem is to remove the variables.

          +1. Cut out the wireless (even just short term to test). Once you know the problem area then it's time for solutions or workarounds.

      Is it just your desktop that has issues or are other devices on the network running into problems as well?

      Most likely your router is probably being overwhelmed by too many connections, especially if you're also torrenting anything (it opens lots of connections). It may be just wearing out. Bear in mind that signal strength on wireless is not necessarily going to mean a good connection. Put fifty wireless devices right beside your router and they're all going to get a strong signal but poor bandwidth (because the bandwidth is shared over all your devices). Eg at home I have my desktop & laptop, my phone, my sister's desktop, my NAS, my parent's computer and my sister, mum and dad all have smartphones. Our printer is connected to wireless as well. And then I have three consoles and two portables which can be on the network sometimes, and if my Dad is home he has his own laptop and I also have an old half-dead NAS box I use to media sometimes, and another old HTPC which I turn on periodically for experiments... if I didn't have a decent dual-band dual-SSID router I'd quickly run into resource contention problems at times. Also adding to the issue is that every house around us has their own wireless network.

      What sort of router do you have? Are you on 802.11g or 802.11n? How old is the wireless card in your desktop (is it a discrete card or integrated into the motherboard or - heaven forbid - a USB stick?) You might simply need a larger antenna or a range extender for your network but honestly I think the problem is probably at the router level.

      Try upgrading your router's firmware too, sometimes that'll fix problems. You could also try changing the channel you're broadcasting on to make sure it's clear of other networks that might be interfering.

      Start isolating components to find which one is causing the problem.
      Test your wireless with other devices turned off. Then test with one additional device etc.
      You can also test with a LAN cable. You can buy a really long one for like $20.
      Best bet is to make everything wired (where possible). Wireless is still generally pretty shit.
      Finally if you have an old router/modem it might be time for an upgrade. If they are running 802.11a/b then you have an very old router. If your running 802.11g/n then you should be fine, but yes the more devices, the slower things will be.
      I would never use Wifi on a desktop, console or gaming rig. It's horrible for long downloads, streaming and gaming. Imo wifi is for phones, tablets, and laptops.

        Greenius and I played co-op Borderlands 2 on our crappy wifi connections last week. I was surprised with how smooth it was. :P

          Well I did join you, meaning you were the host (so it's smooth for you :) ). It was slightly laggy for me but most games are :P. At least I didn't disconnect! It was really horrible last night and I kept getting messages saying my session was lost/restored etc. ugh...

          I've played with Pez before and he said he had a bit of lag too in previous times but last night when we tried playing, he said it was really, really bad and he was stuttering everywhere.

            Well, that explains it. When playing coop. Be the host, damn it. :P

        I once had an electrician in to give me a quote on running ethernet through the roofspace from where our router is to my bedroom (currently run a huge cable across the floor around the bookcases and stuff). His response? Just use wireless. My palm and face made contact with each other.

        Then again a different electrician trying to 'fix' an internal wiring problem came in, disconnected all our telephone jacks except where it enters the house and declared the problem now 'fixed'. Ignoring the very obvious fact I had no less than eight wired devices, several of which were just beside the router. "You'll just have to move your router."

        From one end of the house on the first story to the other end of the house on the ground floor.

        He then proceeds to leave and couldn't 'find time' to come back and fix the mess for two weeks.

        TL;DR: Electricians are lazy.

        P.S. None of that second story would happen if I could find our Telstra pit. I think it's been buried :(

          Electricians are hopeless for that sort of stuff. Best to do it yourself. Although phone lines can be tricky.

      I’ll try to answer some of what you asked but my dad set up a lot of this so I’m not exactly sure on all of it.

      I guess I could connect it directly to the router but I’ve never done so with my desktop. It’s always been on wireless and it used to be fine (I did lag online when playing games but I could always connect). I do have a long cable somewhere (I think it’s currently being used by the other desktop) so I can see if I can try it out later tonight.

      At the moment it seems like it’s just my desktop having these problems. Ever since we changed over to Telstra around late 2010 my consoles have had some problems connecting too but usually turning the modem off and on again fixes this. I’m not torrenting at the moment and I generally do it at night or another time when I’m not using the computer to browse. All of the devices (and probably more) that I mentioned above are connected to the network but at any given time not many of them are actually on it (or even turned on). Right now it’s just my desktop and iPhone and it’s been horrid, straight up not being able to connect and when it finally did, it only remains connected for around a minute before the whole process repeats.

      As for the router/connection I just checked and it’s a Thompson TG782t which I guess is fairly new since we got it as part of Telstra/BigPond at the end of 2010. Not sure if I’m on 802.11g/n/a/b but is there a way I can check? As for the wireless card, I’m not sure but it’s an Atheros AR5005GS Network Adapter. There’s a few other things but I don’t think they’re relevant (Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter and Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20) – 1 and 2 (there’s two of them but I assume that’s just saying a port for an Ethernet cable?). My dad built this PC probably late 2009 so I assume it’ll be fairly recent. I guess that’s a discrete card then?

      Not sure how often the router’s firmware has been updated, or even how to do it. And not sure about the channel thing at the end but I did try some random ipconfig/release ipconfig/renew just then which didn’t seem to do anything.

      I’ve pretty much just used wireless for convenience as my desktop is in my room (upstairs) while the modem is in the study sort of area (downstairs). There’s a desktop there which my parents use but it’s connected through a cable. However, I did start noticing more problems when both desktops were on. I would sometimes disconnect but the downstairs desktop would be perfectly fine (interference maybe?).

      Now I used to turn my computer and router off at least once a day when I had school. I do turn it off whenever I’m out but since I’m out less often I generally just leave both on and just let it download something during the night. Could leaving both on for extended periods be the cause? I just came back from Uni so both were turned off (my PC was in sleep mode during the night but I ‘woke’ it up and properly shut it down in the morning) and so I turned both on when I came home and the problems were still there.

      I’m not sure what internet connection I have but if it’s any indication it’s whatever pack had 200GB a month (now we have 500GB) and when downloading I can reach 1.2MB/s or so. Again, I can’t remember the name or anything since my dad set it up but it’s whatever connection relies on the amount of people in the area using it. Something like the less people using it, the faster it’ll be. I’ve seen at least 2 other BigPond____ routers in the wireless network search thing so I assume neighbours have similar plans. It’s not cable or anything fast since I apparently can’t get that in my area.

      Another thing might be the weather since I’m using wireless. No idea if it really affects it but it’s probably safe to assume when it’s really hot or humid, cloudy, stormy – nothing is going to go smoothly. It’s a nice day today though with some clouds so really not sure if the weather is a huge factor in it.

      I guess my best bet is to try and go for a wired connection or at least test it out. Since posting it, it’s been a bit better and only disconnected every few minutes but it’s being quite slow.

      Thanks for the responses guys, really appreciate it :D!

        Just saw it's a 802.11g connection Security type WPA2-PSK (probably not relevant)

        My laptop can connect perfectly fine from my room (so where the desktop is) and the living room (where my consoles are) so I think it's really just a desktop problem.

        Sounds like on-board wireless to me, Atheros make WiFi chips for Motherboards. But it might be its own card. Look on the back of the machine to see if the WiFi antennas are sticking out from where the motherboard backplate is (where all the USB ports etc are) or from an expansion slot (where the graphics card etc should be), assuming not integrated graphics as well.

        Does your problem go away if you reboot the machine? That might suggest a driver going bonkers and not coming up from Sleep properly.

        Most routers nowadays have automated firmware check & update stuff. You just need to access the router's config. In a command prompt on a machine with a connection, run ipconfig and look at the address for the 'default gateway' and usually if you put that address into a browser it'll bring up the router's config page.

        You shouldn't need to shut down the router every day. My old unreliable Billion used to last about 3-4 weeks before developing problems and my current one gets restarted maybe every 4-5 months. Always on.

        Here's something to try:

        (I suggest posting a message about this on Whingepool at some point if you can't track down the issue as well, these sorts of problems are common)

      Went to the router config thing using the IP address but couldn’t find an ‘update’ option so I assume it just does it by itself. Everything seemed to be fine I guess. Also find a cable and connected it to the router. Forgive the stupidity but it’s pretty much get a blue (they’re generally blue) cable and connect it from the router to the PC? I found some ports in the PC but they had metal over them which I had to bend out of the way… weird…

      I guess it’s working since I’m connected to the internet and it’s fine at the moment. Just started up some torrents to test it out and everything seems to be going fine, just a bit slowly (might be the torrents but browsing was also slow).

        Logs can be your friend. Look around for any logs in the router interface for internet, network, clients, etc.
        Try to crank them up to maximum if the options are there. When you have logs give them a quick scan through for funny looking errors of any sort.

          There's some event logs on the router gateway page (typing the IP address into a browser) but it's all jibberish to me to be honest :P. Doesn't seem like anything was wrong though

        With regards to cables, if you plug it in and it doesn't work, then it's the wrong cable. Traditionally they used to be blue but these days they can be any colour.
        Sounds like you got a few different network adapters, they might be doing silly things and fighting with each other. You could try disabling all but the one you are using (be it wired or wirless) and see if that helps.
        I guess there are other things you could look at too such as and firewall programs, antivirus things, peerblocker (which you should be using if your torrenting). Until you start narrowing down what is and isn't a problem you can keep stabbing in the dark for years.

        If plugging in a cable didn't make a difference then it probably isn't the wifi. If other computers and devices don't have the problem, then it's probably nor the router/modem. I would try to isolate the device, and then I would start looking at the programs you have running.

          Oh, the cable worked fine. It recognised and established a wired connection which worked perfectly.

          I had Hamachi installed which I heard interfered and caused these sort of problems but I've had it disabled for months (even before getting it, I still had the problems). I just disabled everything else (including the ethernet ones) so hopefully there's no more problems in the future.

          Hmm I should probably get peerblocker or some other type of program for security when torrenting. Right now I'm not using anything and I don't exactly feel 'protected'.

      And... more info that may or may not be relevant:

      Oops forgot to mention there's an antenna sticking out the back of the case just under all the ports (I assume it's coming off the network card?)

      I don't actually turn off the computer by the switch at the back. I just click shut down and let it shut down I guess when it's technically still 'on'. The power at the wall socket also remains on. As for the router I turn it off at the main back switch (it's the only way to turn it off) but leave the power on at the wall socket as well.

        If you shut it down then it's off, there's only residual current in it. That's not the problem.

      Disconnected from the wired connection and restarted some random torrents to see how the connection was going. To my surprise it was going fine and didn't connect (it still hasn't for the past 20 mins or so). Not sure why it just randomly went away but it'll certainly come back as I have connection issues nearly all the time.

      I told my dad about the problem over the weekend but he didn't seem to know how to fix it but he just told me he bought a wireless USB adapter. Not sure what that is but I doubt it'll help.

      Anyways, thanks for all the help :). At least complaining and typing up stuff gave me something to do for the past 2 hours I had this bloody problem. Otherwise I would've just sat here doing nothing.

    hot as he'll and I have to wait for a bus, and catch another bus which means I have to walk a fair bit to get home... stupid public holiday bus schedules

      man he'll is so hot...
      stupid phone and it's auto correct shenanigans

    We're getting berated with spam from a .RU domain, 'omahabeachs'.

    Instead of worrying about it, I've decided to hum Martha and the Muffins' "Echo Beach" to myself for the rest of the day.

      ahhhh Echo beach, the poor mans Kokomo

        Greatest comment ever?


        The Muppets' Kokomo! Often confused with The Beach Boys. ;)

      And now, for some Camille.

      Enjoy, guys :)

        Le Festin!

        Last edited 01/10/12 4:47 pm

          I see your Frenchie stuffs and raise you the greatest french song of all time!

            Man.. they may be great romancers, bu they sure as hades can't dance...

            :S That disturbed me. Here's some Mad Men. (Season Five spoilers, be warned. :P)

              Here, have some rammstein and apocolyptica covering david bowie


              *dies happy*

              *not dead yet*

                HAVE SOME CRAY BUTTON: :D

    What makes a man?
    Is it the power in his hand?
    Is it his quest for the glory?
    Give it all you got, to fight to the top, so we can know your story?

      A friend sent me that song for my 21st
      My two year old daughter knows the song, because she heard me idly humming it one day and demanded to know what it was (thankfully she only knows the chorus).

        Oh god - i'm glad you ended with "she only knows the chorus"

        Such a bloody great song, though.

    They had a giant slip 'n slide set up at church today. Was mad fun. Out of me and my brother and sister, I somehow ended up as the least injured, only getting slight burn marks on my knees. :/ I quickly rectified this when we got home, however, by cutting my big toe on a splinter from a wooden pallet. Now it's all band-aided up (with band-aids from my secret stash) and I'm limping around the house (again), my reputation still intact :P

      Oh lambo...

      Nice post 7.4/10
      An implausible start, with a twist that made it a believable story of the protagonist facing his challenges and overcoming them.

      But it's Monday?!

      Slip and Slide?
      But the weather is bollocks?!

      What do you mean everyone else doesn't have our rubbish weather?

      Space Marine?
      What do you mean it was the greatest game ever made if you discount at least 20 others?

        It rained all day in Brisbane too. Lambo's just crazy. :P

          I suppose more rain = more slip in your slide... so maybe he isn't as crazy as we think...

            Some might say he's a visionary.

            Yes, but this is me we're talking about. Is more slip really such a good thing for me? :P

              More slip is always a good thing

          And nestled right in the middle was a perfect, sunny public holiday for Sydney! ;D

        It was at the church, not that they where having a church service there today :P
        The weather wasn't too bad. Was a little cold and rainy, but then it fined up for a bit.
        Space Marine? I should probably play it sometime...It's sitting in my steam account, installed, waiting for me to play it...but Borderlands 2! :P

          Yes.. but angry and wrathful Chuloopa.

          If it's sitting there installed, you should at least give it a 30 minute or so crack before you sink yourelf into borderlands for the night :)

    Eurovision in 1965 was pretty awesome!

    Mannnn i wish people still sang with a full orchestra like this - sounds so damn amazing!

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