Sony Says Hacked PS3s Will Be 'Terminated Permanently'

There's been a new PlayStation 3 hack doing the rounds over the last few weeks, one which some in the scene felt was a major victory in their running battle against Sony's copy protection.

It's a hack that Sony has now officially responded to, directly warning users against applying it and threatening all those suspected of having done so of having their PSN accounts "terminated permanently".

Just how many people Sony can actually catch remains unknown.

Important Notice: Access to the PlayStation®Network and Access to Sony Entertainment Network Services [Sony]


    It'll only affect consoles that have accessed the PSN. Which makes this legal.

      is it even the console affected or just the PSN account?

        I think they do have the ability to remotely brick a console, but I think at this point they're just threatening to terminate the PSN account. Which isn't that great a threat when it's free anyway. Although I guess if you had a whole of of content you'd paid for then you'd lose all that.

        I'm not really sure how they'd detect these hacked consoles, though - my understanding of this latest hack is that they have the ability to make the hacked console "look" like a completely legitimate one

          Remote bricking would be pretty evil. I almost never use PSN, and I don't pirate games, but I love me some homebrew. I'd be pretty cut if they bricked my console just because my PSN account happened to sign in.

            is it even legal for them to be able to brick ur device since u brought it and own urself !!

            also what stopping you from unplugging urselt of the net how they gonna determin that

              Whilst you own the hardware, the software and operating system that operates on that console is operated under license, not owned by the hardware owner. As such, they are within their rights to remotely terminate your ability to operate that software in the event you violate the end-user agreement. And if you unplug it from the net yourself then naturally they cannot detect it

                What bullshit that statement is. That's like saying that the ppl who you bought your refrigerator from can stop you from using it to cool things because you licensed the freon rather than buying it. It's sold as a complete package not a collection of licenses and hardware rights. If they remotely bricked a console in the AU I guarantee you the ACCC would subpena them so fast there heads would spin.

                  Well actually, it is sold as a collection of licenses and hardware rights, as you put it. Did you read all those slips of paper that were in the box with your new console? Doesn't matter if you read them, you agreed to them already. I'm sure you've clicked through a ton or EULAs as well.

                  If you bought a PC, do you own the OS installed on it? The answer is no, and is why Microsoft and Apple (especially with regards to Hackintoshes) both lock out people who are abusing their license by pirating. They cannot lock you out of using the hardware (although UEFI is approaching that sort of thing) but the software is licensed to you under terms of the EULA.

                  Besides, the article (in contradiction to the the completely misleading title) says that it is your PSN access that will be terminated, which is definitely not something you own when you purchase the machine.

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                  As these gentlemen have already pointed out, unlike real-life goods such as cars, gasses, etc, software on an electronic system is indeed purchased simply as a license. The hardware is not licensed, that is yours to keep. But the software is licensed and as such comes with terms and conditions. This has always been the case, and is in fact the source of some of the issue behind piracy, because some people feel that having purchased it they should own it like they would a fridge. What they do no understand is they did not actually purchase the software, simply a license to operate it and a disc containing a licensed copy of it. The software is loaned to them for the duration of that license and able to be used during that period, but remains the property of the developer/producer and cannot legally be edited or manipulated unless that is specifically stated as such in the user agreement (see "open source").
                  The ACCC has no grounds to subpoena them for bricking your console in the event that you breach their end-user agreement, which editing the code on their operating system would count as. If you found a work-around that enabled you to completely avoid their operating system and any of their licensed software, that would be another matter entirely, but as it stands, bricking for the reasons it has been done is completely legal.

    Meh, ms has been doing this to accounts and such for ages... dont see why its only big when sony do it.

      Basically because Sony is a hot button topic for the press, especially given the whole Geohotz thing. As you said, MS has been doing this for years with the XBox.

    The header and the article do not match. Be careful Kotaku...

    "threatening all those SUSPECTED of having done so by having their PSN accounts terminated permanently”.

    Precisely the heavy handed, arrogant, consumer unfriendly attitude that has made them a target for hackers in the first place. Sony's missmanagement has destroyed the company. Sony market value is now worth what it was in 1980's... when you consider inflation... oh what a financial blood bath. These clowns and their control freak nature only know how to turn customers away.


    You are incorrect.

    Commercial terms and conditions are not "law". Even if they tricked you into accepting unfavourable & unfair conditions in a contract, they cannot remove your rights or circumnavigate the law. A corporation cannot create or alter the law in any way, and the legal jurisdiction is always upheld at the location at which the bargain (transaction) was entered into. If the goods where purchased in Australia, then Australian law will govern the purchase and any dispute must be heard in Australian courts...

    In Australia for example you retain the right to make backups... You have the right to modify the hardware and to use your own software or operating system.

    It is true that Sony are known to cheat consumers by hosting software updates on servers located in California in an attempt to remove consumer rights and protection given to them in their respective countries. As they have no hope of extradition, the matter would not be dealt with in the US.

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