Not All Saints Row Developers Were Thrilled With The Porn Stars

Not All Saints Row Developers Were Thrilled with the Porn Stars

Dildo bats. Adult video stars. Alien anal probes. Yep, this is the world of Saints Row. That doesn't mean everyone making the games have been happy with how Saints Row has been handled or happy about porn star producers.

In an interview with Edge, Saints Row IV associate producer Kate Nelson talked about how the series has been viewed — and sold — in the past.

"I did not always love how much THQ put an emphasis on porn stars," says Nelson. "In Saints Row 2 and Saints Row 3 there was an emphasis on the Penthouse girls, and earlier Tera Patrick. I think it's important in marketing games to make sure that the essence of the game is what's being marketed, and I think the porn star angle didn't really fit in with what Saints Row is at heart, which is a parody. We like to poke fun."

Nelson does bring up a good point. The schtick with Tera Patrick (below), who was a "special producer" on Saints Row 2, didn't feel like parody. It felt like porn.

Not All Saints Row Developers Were Thrilled with the Porn Stars

"Saying that someone who had no industry experience was in a role that is sexualised as a producer of our project," Nelson continued, "or saying the Penthouse girls are our QA staff — I just...I can see the humour in that angle of promotion but for me that's the line where it gets into reality."

According to Nelson, Saints Row has, in many ways, empowered both minorities and women.

"You can be an important female character — you don't have to have a D cup either," she told Edge. "You can be large woman, a small woman — you can be blue. You can be who you want to be in the game and you have powerful female characters written into the narrative.

"I think our game actually does represent women in a positive way," Nelson continued, "but the press will focus on, oh hey, there are strippers, or there's a dildo bat — it's unfortunate from my perspective that that doesn't come through. Because I hear women talk on panels and they're like, 'There are no people that look like me in games.' Well, actually in my game [the main character] can look like you as our customisation system is so extensive. We don't get that across in our marketing or in the press because it's difficult — we only have 30 seconds to explain."

And dildo bats, porn stars, and alien anal probes only take a second to convey.

Volition on courting controversy, gender equality and Saints Row IV [Edge via MCVUK]


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    Regardless of how important female characters are handled in the Saints Row series, I really don't think people will look back on it in 10+ years time and say "This series had great, strong and independent female characters."

    They're obviously just getting attention by marketing the games as featuring porn stars, but it was fittingly tongue-in-cheek for the world of SR2/3 so I didn't think of it as an issue. Sasha Grey for instance has retired from porn and been trying to pursue other ventures. The best thing we can do is try to act like her background isn't a big deal because, you know, it shouldn't be.

      So you're on the side of that teacher not getting fired because she used to be a porn star?

        Absolutely. Now, if she had demonstrated failure to maintain authority over a class of juvenile boys because they'd all seen her naked and having sex on camera, that would be an issue. But I have no issues with her being a teacher just on the principle that she once worked in the sex industry.

        Last edited 07/08/13 2:26 pm

      Sasha Grey isn't a porn star anymore? what has the world come to.

        I'm pretty sure you meant 'Sasha Grey isn't a porn star anymore? What is the world coming to?'

        http://i.imgur.com/JfVHyPn.png

        Last edited 07/08/13 2:05 pm

          XD he he he he he

    I think saints row has gone a little too silly for my tastes. LOwly street gang rising up in a zany world...I can get into that. Then they were billionaires but lost all their money and had to fight to get it back, with lazers, jetbikes and air strikes.....sure, I guess. This one, where you are the president of America, fighting aliens with your superpowers might be a step too far.

      Yeah, I'm the same. I had missed the boat on SR1 so when I heard that SR2 was good I decided to visit the bargain bin and picked up SR1... I loved it so much I went out and bought SR2 the day after finishing it. I loved the mixture of absurd (shoot poop to lower real estate prices, brilliant!) with seriousness (the reunion with Julius was just amazing). I felt SR3 went a bit overboard, it sacrificed story and the feeling of a world for lulz- eg the side missions didn't even bother to be introduced, they just started. Why do I have a tiger in my car again?? Some background please?????

      yeah the series started to lose me around 3 with a step back content wise and the fact it was missing that "something" that made 1-2 so good. When I saw that inFamous-esque trailer for 3, I knew it wasn't going to be for me.
      As zany as the old games could be it was still a hard hitting game and I think they have just taken the zany side too far

    The game was somehow going to be special if porn stars weren't included?

    Saints Row makes no sense. Among things, people in the game's city (from what I have seen/read) don't seem to mind the ridiculous mass murder of other citizens and violence going on everywhere.

    Very similar situation to that Speed Racer film where almost every other driver except 2 appear to die in a fireball in the last race, while the crowd cheers on. Surely they're not all rooting for speed and the other guy. wooooo my fave driver just died.... but wooooo! wtf people are dying...

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