​The Prettiest Space Game In Years Might Never Come To Consoles

When you're behind the game that's broken all sorts of records for crowd-funding — $US27,689,361 and counting — you can do what you want when it comes to the hardware said title will show up on. Cloud Imperium founder Chris Roberts says that Star Citizen "will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform". And, yeah, by lesser platforms, he totally means consoles. Both current-gen and next-gen.

After a PS4 development unit was spotted in the Roberts Space Industries offices, speculation sparked that Star Citizen might wind up on Sony's newest console. The possibility is a very faint maybe. The creator of Wing Commander threw up a strident post on the company forums about what it would take for the space-faring sim to wind up on any hardware other than the PC:

As far as consoles go Star Citizen will never be on the PS3 or Xbox 360. As for the next gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox One, we have NO CURRENT PLANS, but my stance remains open and is consistent with the many interviews I've given -

IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them.

Why?

Well because then they are essentially inexpensive small form factor PCs with a custom operating system focused on gaming and who wouldn't want a bigger community of Star Citizens? If Sony or Microsoft are willing to let their platform be open, then I see no real difference between them or Valve's Steambox, a Mac or a PC running Linux, all of which are platforms that I don't think this community would mind supporting as they are all viewed as "PCs". In fact most Macs are probably much worse gaming machines than a next-gen console (as Apple is the antithesis of what I love about PCs)

But this is a big IF as it's asking a lot. To their credit Sony seems to be the most eager to embrace indie games and the idea of openness, and they chased us down to give us some dev kits to play with but we've been very clear on what it would take to get Star Citizen onto PS4.

Roberts said essentially the same thing back when he first started talking about Star Citizen. It's natural that some folks would wonder if Roberts' thinking had changed with next-gen consoles coming out but it sounds like the decision-making here is informed as much by hardware specs as it is by platform holder policy. Still, if either Sony or Microsoft wants it bad enough, it sounds like Roberts would at least consider it.


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    Boo hoo, Glorious master race. ect.

      Nope, missed the point
      Its not about the hardware, its about the lack of control over the content on the platform
      If Sony and Microsoft make it so hard to publish to their platform, then its refreshing to see someone finally say "Well, that's your loss then, not mine"

        Both Sony and MSFT have been clear that things like updates are no worries like they were in the previous gen. Though cross platform is another thing. I think mainly due to that one policy we'll never get it on console. Oh well, I still got my PC anyway :D

      Did you even read the article?

      He's talking primarily about cross platform play. Allowing players on different platforms to communicate and play with each other.

      Secondarily he's talking about being able to easily update the game without needing to jump through hoops to do so.

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    As an original backer for this game Robert has done right by the PC community which in turn shows by the amount of funding, more star citizen would be great for the universe however its not a necessity for the game to reach its heights.
    The only issue I have at the moment is to stop the stretch goals and focus on the core game getting made right, they need to poor more money into the main features so they don't get lost in the ever expanding universe.

    Microsoft and Sony need Chris Roberts more than he needs them.

    So might come to PS4, but Microsoft wont allow it to go cross platform outside of Xbox Live.

      Sony also has to allow it go cross platform to PC and Xbox for it to be considered.

        Of which Sony had no problem with in the past, just look at FF11 and realm reborn.

          Your point seems a little paradoxical. For a cross-platform game to exist, both companies have to allow it. FF11 isn't cross-platform because 'Sony had no problem' with it, it's cross-platform because neither company had a problem with it.

          Other games like Defiance don't support cross-platform play because neither company wanted to allow it. Both companies are responsible for holding back cross-platform play in different ways over the years unfortunately.

          Last edited 19/11/13 11:19 am

            I am saying that it is possible for Star citizen to be cross platform to PC because there are precedence of it in the past. I never said anything about Xbox, however it is well known that in the past Microsoft has been very strict on its policies when it comes to XBL.

              Fair enough. I took your point to mean Microsoft was solely responsible for holding back cross platform, which I obviously disagree with =)

                Not meaning to put blame on any one, I am just recounting previous instances. It would be awesome if it did allow play between all available platforms. I will however only have the intention of playing it on my newly built computer.

                  Yeah, I can't really imagine playing something like Star Citizen on a console. It's clearly designed for PC controls and joystick.

                  I think you guys are forgetting about portal 2 which has allowed co-op between pc and ps3 issue free since launch.

                I'm a bit of an Xbox fanboy these days, but seriously, Microsoft would be the ones holding it back :p

                  At the moment that seems to be the case, but Sony had its tantrum moments through a lot of last generation too.

                  @zombiejesus have Microsoft ever allowed a cross platform game that wasn't an Xbox Live game on PC also?

                  X360/PS3 cross-platform is the one that matters. For that, Final Fantasy 11 is the obvious one. I think there are one or two others but I can't recall offhand.

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    He ends his statement with "we will probably need atleast another 20 million to get this game to next gen consoles, while we already have over 27 million in funding that extra 20 million might just put us in ballpark territory of a console release.

    As someone who owns a decent PC and console, i really think this guy is an ass. I can understand R* reluctance to make a GTA V port (remember Hot coffee) but this is ridiculous with the amount of funding they have and the sheer arrogance, i may just pass on this title. Also to PC gamers, PC master race is not a compliment it is meant as an insult, just like a certain nation in WW2.

    It might seem like PC elitism, but he definitely has a fair point. Microsoft and Sony can have their silly console war, but until they pull their heads in and choose to open up cross-platform play opportunities then the main people who are losing out are the gamers.

    whatever brings it to a wider audience.Good to see he's standing by what's best for his game. I coukd see Sony possibly allowing this. Whethet Microsoft do or not depends how stubborn they want to be about cross platforming

    That title alone is practically porn for PC elitists.

      to the down-voters, c'mon, don't tell me it's not true. Don't tell me that PC elitists would be happy for this to never come to console.

        Don't think that the hate console gamers earn from PC gamers isn't completely unwarranted. When the console boom began, the quality of our games dropped significantly. Our hardware is only recently starting to get the dust blown out of it.

        However, you're making one assumption which I'm assuming is the source of your down-votes: PC Master Race doesn't care after it's announced for the PC. Consoles getting it to? Cool story, bro. Consoles not getting it you say? Oh shit, bummer for you, man.

        We have no reason to care once it's announced for the PC, it means we're actually getting it.

          Don't think that the hate console gamers earn from PC gamers isn't completely unwarranted. When the console boom began, the quality of our games dropped significantly

          Wait, console gamers themselves are responsible for this? Then I don't blame people for hating them for sabotaging the industry. Those bastards! Seriously though, I've been a PC gamer since games came on cassette tapes and I haven't seen the graph that proves a decline in the quality of games.

          PC Master Race doesn't care after it's announced for the PC. Consoles getting it to? Cool story, bro.

          You've got to be joking. You saying that when articles are written about console games that are not in any way related to PC games, PC players don't come in to talk about how much better the PC is? When PS3/4 comparison videos go up, PC players don't even click on the article cause it has nothing to do with PCs? LOL

          If there has been a decline in the quality of games it's not the console's fault, when billion dollar games like WoW are made to be able to work on ancient PCs and have graphics that don't even measure up to current consoles, you have to realise the PC market often goes backwards graphically in order to maximise sales.

        Personally I agree, my pc has a spare hdmi running from it to my tv and some wireless 360 controllers, a dedicated game console has no place in my house.

    I always assumed there was no chance of it ever getting to consoles. As far as I'm concerned, as long as they stay true to the idea of putting PC first (sorry console people!) then I'd be happy to see it turning up elsewhere. The more the merrier!

    God damn it I want this game.

      More than that, I think this is very much a community/gamers first attitude. :)

    This really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The PC is a flexible platform, and people like me, paid good money, and invested plenty of time and effort into it into their PCs, making it that way. People can't really expect to pay console prices, and expect the same level of functionality, consoles are effectively a closed system, and while both MS and Sony have loosened the grip on the reigns, its certainly not anywhere near the control a dev like RSI would get from the PC.

    Did anyone expect this project to go to consoles? I sure as hell didn't.

    These days it all seems to be about console exclusives and then when a game finally does come to PC it is a lack lustre half-arsed port.
    However, it would really be amazing to have cross platform play.

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    Chris has been pretty clear from the start this is a PC game first, second and third and there were no plans to bring it to consoles. So this article isn't really news, it's just restating what he's been saying all along.

    Suck it up princess. It's always been sold as a PC game. You've got plenty of console exclusives that PC gamers never get.

    Cool, that makes up for the Destiny disappointment for PC users

    Dont forget that Star Citizen will also support the Oculus Rift. There is no chance of that appearing on PS4 since Sony has already announced a similar project.

    I think if this game was to be brought to consoles the quality of Star Citizen would suffer. Mainly because the consoles would be holding the graphics and gameplay of the game back. Chris Roberts has always been about pushing a game beyond what your current machine can handle. Every single one of the Wing Commander games required me to upgrade my PC hardware in some way. This game is going to be no different. To handcuff Roberts to an existing, non-upgradable platform would be a serious handicap for Star Citizen.

    Last edited 19/11/13 10:37 pm

    I really don't see an issue with putting these games on consoles (if it were allowed). Games can be made to scale with their hardware in an impressive way. Look at ARMA 3 running on minimum settings compared with ARMA 3 on maximum settings. Its like 2 completely different games.

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