Watch Good Game's Top 100 Games As Voted By Australia

Last night Good Game ran a top 100 games of all time countdown as voted by its Australian audience, and I managed to head into the Good Game studio and talk about some of my own personal favourites for the rundown. Now you can watch the whole thing from start to finish. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Lists are lists -- obviously we're not going to agree with every single entry, but I think the Good Game Top 100 represented the interests of younger gamers and older gamers. A few entries shocked me -- literally BioShock Infinite was way, way too high -- and it definitely skewed towards more recent games with a number of older classics not making the cut.

And the number one? Well I don't want to drop spoilers but I was surprised. I do love the game that the Good Game audience voted as number one, but I can't say I agree it's the best game ever made.

But regardless, I thought it was a super interesting episode, well worth watching. I had a lot of fun taking part and (in particular) talking about Halo and Dark Souls!


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    "Who doesn't want to fight dragons?"

    Me.

      Imagine if every time you told someone you enjoyed movies, they assumed you meant adam sander movies. That's what dragons do to video games.

    oh man
    any chance of the top 100 list being in text form as well (sorry to be painful)
    The whole videos at work issue ....

    1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    2. The Last of Us
    3. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    4. Minecraft
    5. Grand Theft Auto V
    6. Portal 2
    7. Red Dead Redemption
    8. Fallout 3
    9. Bioshock: Infinite
    10. World of Warcraft
    11. Mass Effect 2
    12. Batman: Arkham City
    13. Goldeneye
    14. Half-Life 2
    15. Final Fantasy 7
    16. Dark Souls
    17. Borderlands 2
    18. Mass Effect 3
    19. Assassin's Creed 2
    20. Halo
    21. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    22. BioShock
    23. Tomb Raider
    24. Team Fortress 2
    25. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
    26. Dragon Age: Origins
    27. Pokemon Red, Blue, Green and Yellow
    28. League of Legends
    29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    30. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    31. Civilization 5
    32. Half-Life
    33. Star Wars: Battlefront 2
    34. Age of Empires 2
    35. Uncharted 2
    36. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    37. Portal
    38. Halo 3
    39. Final Fantasy X
    40. Diablo 2
    41. Deus Ex
    42. DOTA 2
    43. Far Cry 3
    44. Fallout: New Vegas
    45. Pokemon X and Y
    46. Baldur's Gate 2
    47. Super Mario 64
    48. The Walking Dead: Season 1
    49. Mario Kart 64
    50. Kingdom Hearts II
    51. Mass Effect
    52. Metal Gear Solid
    53. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    54. Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
    55. Doom
    56. Battlefield 4
    57. Dark Souls 2
    58. Banjo-Kazooie
    59. Halo 2
    60. Halo 4
    61. Halo: Reach
    62. DayZ
    63. Kingdom Hearts
    64. Call of Duty: Black Ops II
    65. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    66. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    67. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    68. Watch_Dogs
    69. Journey
    70. StarCraft
    71. Terraria
    72. Batman: Arkham Asylum
    73. Battlefield 3
    74. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    75. FIFA 2014
    76. Metal Gear Solid 3
    77. Chrono Trigger
    78. Shadow of the Colossus
    79. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
    80. Garry's Mod
    81. The Sims 3
    82. Mario Kart 8
    83. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    84. Pokemon Gold and Silver
    85. Guild Wars 2
    86. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    87. The Secret of Monkey Island
    88. Diablo 3
    89. Uncharted 3
    90. Conker's Bad Fur Day
    91. Clash of Clans
    92. Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    93. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
    94. Super Mario Bros. 3
    95. Persona 4
    96. Tetris
    97. Warcraft 3
    98. Counter-Strike
    99. Resident Evil 4
    100. Super Mario Bros.

      This is literally the saddest list I have ever seen in my life.

        https://www.google.com.au/search?q=saddest+list&oq=saddest+list&aqs=chrome

        Last edited 13/08/14 2:36 pm

        Agreed, it's a list of "most popular games of the last 4 years". It's nothing short of a miracle that some of the all time greats managed to make it in there.

        Kids these days I swear...

          At least 30 of them are from before 2010

          3. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
          10. World of Warcraft
          13. Goldeneye
          14. Half-Life 2
          20. Halo
          21. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
          22. BioShock
          23. Tomb Raider
          24. Team Fortress 2
          29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
          30. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
          32. Half-Life
          34. Age of Empires 2
          36. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
          37. Portal
          40. Diablo 2
          41. Deus Ex
          46. Baldur's Gate 2
          47. Super Mario 64
          55. Doom
          65. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
          67. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
          70. StarCraft
          80. Garry's Mod
          87. The Secret of Monkey Island
          94. Super Mario Bros. 3
          96. Tetris
          97. Warcraft 3
          98. Counter-Strike
          100. Super Mario Bros.

          Or maybe newer games are simply better than older games. I've been a gamer for 20 years, but once you take off the rose-tinted glasses you realise that a lot of modern games built on the success of the elder. Gaming has been a constantly evolving medium and I think they're better than ever.

        *SHOCK* *HORROR* Not everyone agrees on what are the top 100 games. Oh no!

      Okay yeah I'm not totally angry but putting Halo 4 above reach is something nobody would ever agree with

      Also morrowind below oblivion??? I love both equally but that would be a worldwide outrage hahaha

        Putting Halo 4 in at all is beyond me. That was horrible compared to the rest. Reach being my favorite of the series.

        Where the hell is Ultima VII.

    Arkham City way above Asylum hmmm

    Bioshock infinite was abysmal in my opinion. I dont understand how it got in.
    Half-life 1 and deus ex 1 deserve to be in top 10.
    Watch_dogs was great but didnt deserve a spot.
    AND HOW DID MASS EFFECT 3 GET 18??? Number 1 was waaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

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      Because the ending made Millennials think they're smarter than the rest of the world.
      (I welcome your downvotes)

        That also known as the "Metal Gear Effect" isn't it?

        So deep.... and by deep I mean convoluted and messy....

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          Eh, Kojima usually managed to bring it around down the road. Infinite writers obviously had so many "deep" endings that they couldn't decide on one, so they decide to go with all of them.

      Hold onto your hat!

      Watch Dogs at 68!

      Probably because its on the side of school buses still...

        I played the main campaign and haven't looked at the game since.

        How awesome is it that games are now advertised on buses though!

        Yeah, that's my point. I loved it(so much so i got called a fanboy of it), but not top 100 material.

          I liked it too.
          Didn't make my top list but I enjoyed it for what it was. It's amazing what happens when you don't play in to and perpetuate hype.

      There are a few on that list that are purely there, or are higher than they should be due to how new they are.
      i.e. Bioshock (all of them imo, but infinite definitely), Last of Us, Watch_Dogs, Mass Effect 3, Twilight Princess, Tomb Raider.
      These are all over rated, or should not be in the top 100 in my opinion. I think any top 100 games, should be more focused on games that revolutionized a genre, introduced a genre or mechanics or are the best of their type.

      That's just my opinion though. I honestly don't think there were many games from the last few years I would put in the top 50. Maybe in the bottom 50. Perhaps that's because I remember the SNES.

        Twilight Princess is one of the only games on this list that would also appear on mine! (along with Portal 2, OoT, Super Mario 64, Age of Empires 2 and Super Mario Suns... Oh wait, Super Mario Sunshine ISN'T ON THIS LIST???)

        Though, it's always funny seeing the Tomb Raider reboot being placed above not only Uncharted but also the original Tomb Raider games!

      Totally agree. BI was an absolute mess. Childish attempts at discussing topical issues, clunky writing that confused depth with complexity, extremely poor shooting mechanics, non-sensical (in context) use of upgrade elements just to tie it back to previous bioshock games. I really don't understand how 'people love these characters'. I can assume 'people' means teenagers and 'love these characters' means 'one of the characters has tits'

      how on earth did BF4 make it in there? The only rankings it deserves is:
      "Biggest clusterfuck of a release"
      "Most shameless raping of an otherwise good franchise"

    Posted in TAY earlier:

    Didn't watch that GG list stopped watching ages ago, no point starting now, but ran some numbers on the list:

    56% of games were post 2007 release.
    81% of games were 2000 or later release.
    19% of games were pre-2000 release.

    Top 10 post 2007 - 80%
    Top 20 post 2007 - 75%
    Top 25 post 2007 - 80%

    Pretty much sums up their demographic (which is obvious by the shows production).

    Dark ages of PC, SNES, MEGADRIVE, SATURN and even Playstation 1... We lived in such a poor time apparently.

      1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 2013
      2. The Last of Us  2013
      3. The Leged of Zelda: Ocarina of Time  1998
      4. Minecraft  2009
      5. Grand Theft Auto V  2014
      6. Portal 2  2011
      7. Red Dead Redemption  2010
      8. Fallout 3  2008
      9. Bioshock: Infinite  2013
      10. World of Warcraft  2004
      11. Mass Effect 2  2010
      12. Batman: Arkham City  2011
      13. Goldeneye  1997
      14. Half-Life 2  2008
      15. Final Fantasy 7  1997
      16. Dark Souls   2011
      17. Borderlands 2  2012
      18. Mass Effect 3  2012
      19. Assassin's Creed 2  2009
      20. Halo  2001
      21. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas  2004
      22. BioShock   2011
      23. Tomb Raider  2013
      24. Team Fortress 2   2007
      25. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag  2013
      26. Dragon Age: Origins  2009
      27. Pokemon Red, Blue, Green Yellow  1996
      28. League of Legends  2009
      29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic  2003
      30. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2006
      31. Civilization 5  2012
      32. Half-Life  1998
      33. Star Wars: Battlefront 2   2005
      34. Age of Empires 2  1999
      35. Uncharted 2  2009
      36. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 2002
      37. Portal   2007
      38. Halo 3  2007
      39. Final Fantasy X 2001
      40. Diablo 2   2000
      41. Deus Ex   2000
      42. DOTA 2  2013
      43. Far Cry 3  2013
      44. Fallout: New Vegas   2010
      45. Pokemon X and Y  2013
      46. Baldur's Gate 2   2000
      47. Super Mario 64   1996
      48. The Walking Dead: Season 1   2012
      49. Mario Kart 64  1996
      50. Kingdom Hearts II   2005
      51. Mass Effect  2007
      52. Metal Gear Solid  1998
      53. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask  2000
      54. Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire Emerald 2003
      55. Doom   1993
      56. Battlefield 4  2013
      57. Dark Souls 2  2014
      58. Banjo-Kazooie  1998
      59. Halo 2  2004
      60. Halo 4  2012
      61. Halo: Reach  2010
      62. DayZ  2013
      63. Kingdom Hearts  2002
      64. Call of Duty: Black Ops II   2012
      65. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2007
      66. Super Smash Bros. Brawl  2008
      67. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City   2002
      68. Watch_Dogs  2014
      69. Journey   2012
      70. StarCraft   1998
      71. Terraria  2011
      72. Batman: Arkham Asylum  2009
      73. Battlefield 3   2011
      74. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess  2006
      75. FIFA 2014  2013
      76. Metal Gear Solid 3  2004
      77. Chrono Trigger  1995
      78. Shadow of the Colossus   2006
      79. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 2011
      80. Garry's Mod  2006
      81. The Sims 3  2009
      82. Mario Kart 8  2014
      83. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past  1992
      84. Pokemon Gold and Silver   2001
      85. Guild Wars 2  2012
      86. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker  2003
      87. The Secret of Monkey Island 1990
      88. Diablo 3  2012
      89. Uncharted 3  2011
      90. Conker's Bad Fur Day  2001
      91. Clash of Clans   2012
      92. Deus Ex: Human Revolution  2011
      93. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive   2012
      94. Super Mario Bros. 3   1991
      95. Persona 4   2008
      96. Tetris  1984
      97. Warcraft 3   2002
      98. Counter-Strike  1999
      99. Resident Evil 4  2005
      100. Super Mario Bros 1985

        Obviously everyone is going to have their opinions of what should/shouldn't be in the list, but seriously, no Quake? That game revolutionized not only First Person Shooters but also large scale modding. Class based FPS, Capture the Flag, etc - all came from Quake

      While I agree there's a tilt towards more recent games, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. On the whole, and speaking as somebody who's been playing games since the late 70s, more recent games are more playable.

      I'd rather play Resogun than Defender.
      I'd rather play Civilization V than Civ I.
      I'd rather play Age of Wonders III than Master of Magic.
      I'd rather play Tales of Xillia than Tales of Symphonia.
      I'd rather play LOTRO than Everquest.
      I'd rather play Borderlands than Doom.

      Given almost any old-school game, there's a more recent game with more evolved mechanics and gameplay that I prefer. When I revisit those older games, I might play for half an hour and have some fun doing so, but there's almost always a newer game I prefer.

      The year is 2014. The interval between now and 2000 is the same as between 1986 and 2000. At the same time, the capabilities of consoles have increased quite a bit; many more games are being produced; and game designers have had the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of the past.

      It's easy to look back on the 80s and 90s and see the world back then with rose-coloured gaming glasses, but really Sturgeon's Law applied then as it does now: 90% of everything is cr*p. We've just forgotten the cr*p produced back then because frankly, who would want to remember it?

        You're comparing newer versions of existing games (or similar games) against their original counterparts. The point is when the classics came out they redefined their genre, everything that followed only improved and added to what was discovered.

        If this was the list of what you'd rather play your argument holds merit, but the top 100 games of all time needs to look at the games that dared to push the boundaries that existed and I'm sorry but bloody having Clash of Clans on there just makes the whole list null and void in my humble opinion.

        You will have to sell me on Xillia being better than Symphonia. Maybe you should have used for that example Tales of Phantasia.

          I never played Symphonia or Phantasia, but Tales of Xillia was sooooo good! Can't wait for ToX 2 to come out in just over a week!

            Play Tales of the Abyss if you can stand the graphics, otherwise play Tales of Vesperia. If you know Japanese, play the PSP version of Tales of Phantasia (Fully Voiced) or the PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia.

              I swear the world doesn't want me to play tales games. I don't know Japanese and don't have a 360, so there goes most of those options. However, I could play the 3DS version of Abyss (if I order it from the UK). Otherwise, the next on my list are Tales of Xillia 2, Tales of Symphonia Chronicles and Tales of Hearts R (I actually own a Vita!)

        I played Doom a few months back and I enjoyed it more then I did borderlands.

          Indeed. Borderlands 2 in particular lacks "fun" - it's a grind and compelling, but is it "fun" - Doom, however, was fun.

    Fallout New Vegas is WAY better than Fallout 3.

    Also, boo Bioshock: Infinite.

    Whose idea was it to put Halo: Reach right before Halo 4? Personally I'd never put Halo 4 in the top 100.

    and Resident Evil 4 is number 99!? Are you friggen serious!? It's easily in the top 10, top 25 at most.

    Last edited 13/08/14 2:10 pm

      Counterstrike is at 98 and Minecraft sits at 4th. Take the list with a grain of salt my brethren.

        I stopped reading at skyrim, i get its a great game but it no way its better then a large number of those games

        9 year old's flexing their voting muscle.

        "Those games are old. Better vote the cool new one because it looks better and is easier."
        Yeah, this list reeks of that.

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      See neo kaiser I totally agree with the Halo Reach thing... but new Vegas was pretty meh

      I dunno did I miss something in the game that didn't just make it fallout 3 with new boring quests?
      honestly I thought fallout 3 was supposed to be better?

        Here's a simple way to prove to yourself that New Vegas is better than Fallout 3.

        Replay both games (as long as you want) and have this one, single question running through your head as you do.

        "What do they eat?"

      To be fair, this obviously isn't the Neo Kaiser top 100 and as usual with these things according to the law of averages you will end up with a list that pleases nobody. The "recency" and "primacy" rules will usually also come into play. Just goes to show that you don't need fancy graphics to create a well remembered game.

      p.s. yes, I am aware I could just as easily have made this comment on many of the other posts so don't feel I am picking on you. Feel privileged ;)

      Once again Australians show they are incapable of voting.

        In 6 months time the games industry will announce hiding entire levels of games behind pay walls just for Australians in order to save the industry within the country.

      I agree with you on Fallout NV. It's more "fallout" than FO3 by a wide margin. FO3 was Elder Scrolls with some post-apocalyptic paint.

      I also concur with RE4 - loved that game, but I stand by RE 2 being a better game. Silent Hill 2 as well, but that's another story...

    No Final Fantasy VI...no credibility...boooo

    In all seriousness though, just taking this with a grain of salt. Different people, different tastes...

    My biggest problem with the list was why was FIFA 14 there? And pretty high. What a weird choice people voted for. I have no problem with the list having alot of modern games on it. If the game is awesome, it doesn't matter if it came out last year or 15 years ago. However no max payne 2 makes this list invalid.

    Yeah, i'd be interested to know the average audience age of GG. Would make the list easier to understand. Myself, i own 27 games on that list and out of them would probably only put half in my top 100.

      If I was a cynical prick I'd guess GG's audience was largely composed of Art Students and 12 Year Olds.

      ...I guess I'm a cynical prick.

    You know what people should do when they do a "Top 100 of ALL TIME" list?
    Discount the current and previous year.
    In this example, GG would have had to accept games that were 2012 and earlier.
    So sure, you'd still get Skyrim, but it would force people to think harder about their choices, rather than "I'm playing this game right now and enjoying it, so it must be a brilliant game worthy of being in a top 100 list".

      Exactly like all those games that you play through once but struggle to do again.

      Or weight games by age, so that votes for an old game are worth more than a vote for a more recent game. This sort of list is always skewed to recent stuff.

      The other way is to always include the results of previous years' votes. Over time, old but great games will still keep getting votes year after year, newer but faddish games won't and will drop down the order.

      But then you'd lose The Last of Us. And we are not going to think any less of that game in 20 years, let alone 2.

        Unfortunately there will be collateral damage in games that are brilliant and do deserve to be in the Top 100...but it will stop things like Fifa 14, or the latest Battlefield/CoD iteration being in there simply because John Doe sinks god-awful amount of hours into this game, so it must be brilliant, until the next edition comes along, in which case THAT is a brilliant game and must be in the Top 100.

    The votes are in!.....BUT Bioshock is a much better game than Infinite.

      Infinite was fun at first, but when you realise how bad the game design is, along with the ridiculous story trying to be deep, it's pretty bad.

    It's like the voters just googled "metacritic highest rated games" and chose all the hot new recent releases.

    Last edited 13/08/14 2:30 pm

    Wow, no System Shock 1 and or 2...

    a link to the past at #83.
    Ocarina of Time at #3
    Good game. fire up youtube. look up EgoRaptor and his 'Sequelitis: a link to the past vs ocarina of time'
    enough said.

      i also now remember why i dont watch good game. its hard to take hex and bajo seriously.

    Well, I've played 26 and have a stack more from that list.

    Honestly, can't complain about it. What is "top"? Most fun? Most important? An industry landmark? Game that's stood the test of time?

    The industry changes so much each generation that hugely important games from the mid 90s might seem like clunky relics now. I tend to just run down these types of lists trying to pick out what I've played and sometimes getting a push toward picking up something new.

    MIA on the list......
    Descent,
    COD,
    Counter Strike,
    Doom 3,
    Unreal Tournament.
    Yes I'm old school...

      Doom 3 was crap. The HL2 scene in Ravenholme was scarier than the whole of Doom 3 put together.

        You know, after playing Doom 1 and 2 I never once thought that for Doom 3 they should suddenly turn into a horror franchise...

    Ocarina of Time. Aah childhood memories! Everywhere I go I see it these days. I'm tempted to get it on the 3DS but I don't want to destroy my childhood nostalgic memories...they only seem good until we replay them.

    Wow, it has SMB, SMB3, SM64 but no SMW. Surprising.

      This. SMB and 3 have a ton of nostalgic value and are definitely some of the greatest games created in their era, but World is so far better, building on top of everything that made those games good. Same with Galaxy and 64. 64 defined an era and established the parameters of 3D platform games, but Galaxy is all that and much, much more. Finally, SM3DW needs to be a top of them all. It took everything that made both World and Galaxy great and managed to fuse it in a single game.

        Eh, can't say I totally agree with you. I used to be constantly at odds over whether SMB3 or SMW were my preferred game. But now my answer is SMA4 :P

        And like I mentioned in Mark's 20 Games thing the other day, I don't get the hype for Galaxy. Still rate 64 over the pair of them.

        3D World was pretty brilliant though. Gotta get back to what I was doing with that.

        Last edited 13/08/14 6:11 pm

          We all know that Super Mario Sunshine is the best Mario game! That, Double Dash and Smash Bros Melee are why the Gamecube will always be my favourite console of all time!

    It's not even right on recent games - Mario Galaxy 2 is MIA :( At least Persona 4 made it I suppose.

    Good for you Watch Dogs.

    Last edited 13/08/14 2:46 pm

    Glad to see Goldeneye got the respect it deserved. Awesome multiplayer memories. Super Mario 64 was robbed though!

      I really don't get what everyone's hard-on for Goldeneye is. I remember playing it at a friends house and coming from PC shooters at the time I was seriously pissed off at the lack of simple things like walking off ledges and jumping, aiming was also the most bullshit thing ever.

        It was awesome at the time it came out. Multiplayer was amazing - rotating between different houses for a few hours after school each day.

        Had actual proper objectives that changed with the difficulty. Non linear levels, could play stealth or gung ho.

        Enemies could hear gunfire, so using a silenced weapon was useful. They also reacted to where they were shot.

        Plus it was actually better than the movie.

        Lots of those were firsts for a FPS.

        Earning cheats added heaps of replayability as well - spent hours earning and messing around with them.

        Guess I really like this game :)

    Planescape: Torment appears nowhere on this list. That tells me everything I need to know.

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