Guild Wars 2 Players Angry Over Currency Exchange Changes

Guild Wars 2 Players Angry Over Currency Exchange Changes

Guild Wars 2 players have long enjoyed the ability to easily exchange gold for gems used to buy nifty cosmetic items in the game's Black Lion Trading Company store. Yesterday's game update changed all of that, and players are not happy.

Previously Guild Wars 2's currency exchange worked like this: players would enter the interface and exchange the exact number of coins required for the exact amount of gems they needed, based on current currency exchange rates. Say they wanted a Black Lion Chest Key, used to get rewards from special chests awarded during their adventures. They'd pay the amount of gold needed to secure 150 gems, the price of single key, and that would be that.

Here's the new interface.

Guild Wars 2 Players Angry Over Currency Exchange Changes

See the problem? ArenaNet has Microsoft Pointed the currency exchange. The lowest denomination of gems players can now trade for is 400 gems. That means if players want just a single Black Lion Chest Key for 150 gems, they will have to purchase 400. It also means that if they want to purchase a five pack of keys, a much better deal at 450 gems, they will need to purchase 800 gems to do it.

Here are the update notes, explaining the changes.

Improvements: New Currency Exchange UI

The Currency Exchange UI has been overhauled to be quicker to use and easier to understand.

  • Quick exchange options for both currencies are now visible on the front page of the Currency Exchange.
  • The comparison between Exchange for Gold and Exchange for Gems prices is much more obvious.
  • Fixed exchange amounts have been set to simplify the exchange process and remove confusing rounding points.

There was nothing confusing about the old exchange. You entered the amount of gems you wanted, and the interface told you how much gold you'd need to spend to get them. In the words of one of my Guild Wars 2 playing relatives upon seeing the changes, "How the hell is this simplifying anything?"

Guild Wars 2 forum goers are similarly confused and angered by the move. Here are a few comments from the lengthy forum post on the subject.

The whole point of gems was being able to get the exact amount you needed. This new system is just awful and means people will have a hard time using all their remaining gems

I am FURIOUS about this change. Only need a few gems to buy some transmutation charges? Guess what? You're forced to buy 70g+ worth of gems to do it. This is a disgusting system that pretty much forces you to throw away needless amounts of gold or pay up with cash. The rehashed content for halloween was bad enough, but now you force this crap down our throats? Switching around my look was my favourite thing to do, and i just needed a few gold to do it if i was out of charges. Now? I need to throw away nearly 100g on gems i don't even need or want. I can't even put my frustration into appropriate words. You just effectively killed the gem store for me anet. G freaking G

This is completely unacceptable. How did this even get approved?

There's been more than a few times when I've used the exchange to get just 100 gems to be able to afford something. With all the odd/varying prices, we need options in buying amounts of gems.

It's bad enough that we are stuck with a minimum real cash purchase of $US10, now this has spread into the exchange too.

This comment refers to the game's real cash store, where players can buy gems for actual cash.

Guild Wars 2 Players Angry Over Currency Exchange Changes

Lewis Burnell of TenTonHammer (via NeoGAF) has posted a lengthy editorial speaking out against the changes, where he also details the replies to player outrage by ArenaNet communication team lead Gaile Grey.

Ok, guys. Some of you are unhappy about this change, I can see that. BUT… quite honestly, most of you are sort of (I hate to use the word) ranting (sorry!) instead of offering suggestions.

That is not the way to calm an angry mob. Gaile later returned with some information from the developers regarding the changes.

  • A lot of newer players had trouble with the interface. That doesn't apply to you, you're veterans who have been around the conversion block a time or two. But newer players will benefit from the updated system.
  • The goal was to make the Gem Store more like other shopping experiences, and if you think about it, there is more of that feel to it now.
  • You may be surprised to know this (I know I was) but very few people bought gems at smaller denominations than the first one offered in the new system. That's not to say they never did, nor that there wouldn't be the desire to do so. But overall, the current options were selected based on player purchases in the past.
  • The team is going to listen to your feedback and, if and when it's practical and desirable, they can look towards adjusting the new system to better meet your needs.

Newer players having trouble with the interface? I've got a character that's been around since the game launched, and I've not accrued enough gold to purchase anywhere near 400 gems. Granted I've not put in very much time over the past year, but I can't see new players coming into that much money anytime soon.

From what I've seen of developer response so far, it doesn't seem like reversing these changes are high on ArenaNet's priority list. I've reached out to the developer for comment on the situation, and will update this post when I hear back.


Comments

    I recently started playing Guild Wars 2 (a couple of months ago) and have been playing a couple hours a day on average, and have barely obtained 60g. I don't think I'm anywhere near enough to buy the minimum amount of gems, and I was so keen to buy some instruments! Arena Net seem pretty good overall but this was a silly decision. They should have added this in conjunction with the previous option.

    Yeah, that new system is pretty stupid...

    Last edited 23/10/14 12:33 pm

      I don't really have a huge issue with it. I never really purchase much on the gem store, and when I do, I never really understood the exchange rate system. At least I know now that whatever gems I'm getting for my gold is fair and relative to what everyone else is getting.
      however, more individual amounts of gems would be useful.

      Last edited 23/10/14 1:14 pm

    Meh I can see why they've done it though in order to make it more profitable and make people more ongoingly buy/use gems rather than 'once in a while as a one of'. I don't use gems at all because I have a lot more fun without.. So I really couldn't care less ^_^

    Ok, guys. Some of you are unhappy about this change, I can see that. BUT… quite honestly, most of you are sort of (I hate to use the word) ranting (sorry!) instead of offering suggestions.
    Really not well written but an entirely reasonable point.

      I don't think it's an issue that needs an alternative suggestion. The way the system worked before was great. In my opinion, the most confusing part for a new player would be how the conversion rate works but this doesn't even solve that. If anything it makes it worse by not having the graph and trends data.

      The issue is that the suggestions they're offering are basically 'I want the old system back' however it's something the developers do not want to do.

      He's basically just saying please stop yelling at us guys. Which is fair enough, it's not like he's the sole instigator of the change.

      I personally disagree with it since when I played GW2 I would never have enough money to afford Gems. I don't think that this is an issue about new players, it's an issue about real money transactions and the trend to force people to overpay for a secondary currency because they'll never easily spend the full amount they get without topping it up.

      There's a lot of other things that don't benefit new players in GW2 and this isn't gonna help new players in my opinion. If they're gonna use the trading post anyway they'll get used to this pretty quickly, quick enough to grasp how to do gem conversion anyway.

      It's a poor decision on whoever pushed this through as it makes the developers more concerned with trying to make trivial parts of new players lives easier rather while making extra coin while simultaneously punishing veteran players at those new players expense.

      Reward your veteran players don't alienate them.

    The goal was to make the Gem Store more like other shopping experiences,Of course. I always go into a store and pay for $20 worth of store credit just so I can buy something that is $6.25. There's no reason why they couldn't keep a custom exchange option in addition to the fixed exchange other than to make it more likely you'll need to pay real money for gems because you don't have the gold to buy the tier you need.

    Last edited 24/10/14 3:09 am

    thanks for the article Mike, not enough GW news going on here

    Quick query for those still playing GW2:

    I played GW2 for a few months at release, and left because I couldn't see how they could ever correctly balance thief.

    Then a year later I returned for a month, to see if they'd fixed thief. They hadn't, it was still quite easy to build a thief which was invisible for 95% of the fight. This, combined with the revive mechanics meant a thief duo in open RvR was quite capable of typing up 6 opponents indefinitely.

    Have they fixed this yet?

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