The Choices We Made In Game Of Thrones Episode Two

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Nothing's easy in Westeros. There are no simple decisions, no sure outcomes, and just when you think you've made the right call, something unexpected turns up and kills you.

The second episode of Telltale's Game of Thrones game came out this week, and man, did it hit the ground running. Over the course of its two-ish-hour run, we followed multiple Forrester children in multiple locations, all of them trying to recover from the devastation brought down on their family in the wake of their father's death at the Red Wedding, as well as the events at the end of episode one.

Heads up! Spoilers for the first two episodes of Telltale's Game of Thrones follow.

Before we get into the nitty-gritty, some broad thoughts on the episode: I thought it was plenty engrossing, but it also felt a bit off at times. Everything was so clear-cut, the villains were evil, the good guys were good, and there was so little time to get to actually know anyone. It may have been that I also spent this week playing the first episode of Life is Strange — a Telltale-like game that improves on the formula in some notable ways — but I found myself wishing that episode 2 had given everything more space to breathe.

A lot of that is likely a function of the Episode's place in the season — this was the one that really had to get things going. So, I understand that the writers had to get a whole lot of balls rolling at once, but I hope there'll be time in the future to slow down and let us get to understand why we should even like the Forresters, aside from the fact that they seem like generally likeable people.

Anyway! On to the sweet, sweet choices. This time around, I thought it would be fun to try something a little bit different than we've done with past Telltale games. As the season goes on, rather than run an essay on release day about what one of us thought of the new episode, we'll wait a few days until more of you have had a chance to play, then post a rundown of the major decisions. (It does sound like some people — possibly a lot of people — are having trouble getting their episode one choices to carry over on Xbox One, which sucks. We've asked Telltale what the deal is.)

I asked all of Kotaku's staff members who'd played the episode what they decided to do at each critical juncture. Here goes.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Did you forge Margaery's letter?

Kirk: I didn't forge the letter. It seemed like such a foolish thing to do, and I give Mira more credit than that. Any gains that a forged letter could win for the Forresters would be undone in the long run once the forgery was revealed. She's gotta do this legit or not do it at all.

Luke: Mira danced a fine line in the first episode, and as Margaery's talk reveals at the start of this one, it was best not to push things too far. So I didn't, and stuck with the plan to finish up the wedding letters.

Nathan: I had Margaery send a letter in the first episode, and it went terribly. Joffrey lost his shit, Margaery got upset with me, and I realised that throwing around power is a fast way to lose it. Also, I dig the Tyrell's "come in, act cooler than everyone else, and fuck up King's Landing" attitude, so I decided I wanted to stay at least kind of on their good side. Forging the letter would have had obvious detrimental consequences, and Rodrik struck me as a guy who could handle himself. It was a cold decision, but a calculated one.

Tina: No, for the same reason I didn't drink the stolen wine I was offered. You just don't fuck around in King's Landing, at least in such an obviously trackable, spur-of-the-moment way. If you're planning on playing deviously, you do it with tact, not emotion. Plus, I sense genuine sympathy and affection from Margaery and I didn't want to jeopardise that relationship.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Did you kiss Lord Whitehill's Ring?

Kirk: Hell no, I didn't! I have some issues with Whitehall as a character — he's just such a complete and total prick that he doesn't seem believable, even by Game of Thrones standards of prickishness. (I did like the scene with his daughter Gwyn, though, who was a much more sympathetic character despite being allied with her father.) So, no, I didn't kiss the dude's ring. He wasn't going to be satisfied no matter what I did, so I saw no reason to bow to him.

Luke: Lord Whitehall is a fat piece of shit. I'd rather see Ironrath burn than bend the knee to a pig like that.

Nathan: I'll explain it here the same way I did in the game: "If I hadn't done it, things would have turned out even worse." It was hard to watch Rodrik kiss that pig-faced arsehole's ring, but I'll make him pay when the time is right.

Tina: No, because why should I? This guy's a tyrant, and my bending to his will on such an insulting demand was never going to do me any favours but to show weakness. A life without dignity isn't worth living, anyway.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Did you win Rodrik's betrothal to Elaena Glenmore?

Kirk: I did, and I was glad for it. In the end, I offered Elaena's father half of the Ironwood grove, and that pragmatism sealed the deal. Though I did think the whole bit with the betrothal was too convenient. Oh, there happens to be some other house I've never heard of who might step in and hold off both the Whitehills and the Boltons? Seems unlikely. I thought Elaena and Rodrik were both cute as hell, but I kiiiinda hope this whole thing ends with everyone dead.

Luke: I didn't want to lose the betrothal! But with all those variables and conflicting pieces of advice in the way, it just...got away from me.

Nathan: I may not have had the letter, but I had Rodrik's raw, er, Rodrik-ness to work with. I played him as someone who's tough yet honest, aware enough of his own strengths and weaknesses to wield both as weapons. I had him reveal to Elaena that he was struggling, but also that he still cared about her. When she cited practical concerns, I offered her the remainder of our Ironwood. Her face lit up at that idea, and that sealed the deal. I should note, however, that I've played it pretty fast and loose with Ironwood in this game — I offered it to Tyrion as well — and I feel like that's gonna come back to bite me.

Tina: I'm not sure how my charm and good looks did not woo her, but I wasn't about to lie to Lady Elaena. Maybe I'm honest to a fault. I'd probably never realistically survive the Game of Thrones.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Did you stand up for Cotter after he stole Finn's knife?

Kirk: I did, but I don't like that I did. I told Cotter to give the knife back, told Finn to go fuck himself, and really just tried my best to stay out of it. I wasn't happy to see Gared get involved in the way he did. Cotter kinda seems like an idiot, just as much as Finn seems like an unreasonable arsehole. I sort of wish both characters felt more like people and less like archetypes, and wanted to be shut of both of them.

Luke: This wasn't hard. Almost everyone at Castle Black is there for committing some kind of crime. Better to save a thief with a sense of justice than side with a bully (or worse, condemn them both).

Nathan: I actually didn't mean to stand up for Cotter. I thought he was an idiot and Finn was a jerk. They were made for each other! But then Finn took a swing at me and well, I really don't like his face. Honestly, I might play through the episode again to change that choice — not because I want to save scum it now that I know the possible outcomes, but because I don't feel like I got to make the choice I was trying to make. It's a little frustrating, having that hanging over my head.

Tina: Yes, because he seems more reliable as an ally than Finn. Finn is hotheaded and clearly violent and vindictive over matters that are not worth being vindictive over. If I need to create alliances with my brothers, it's going to be Cotter over Finn.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

Did you kill Mira's attacker?

Kirk: Yeah, I killed the guy. I tossed the knife into the bushes, too, since the alternative would have been to (I guess?) have Mira hide it in her chambers, and as far as I know they don't have fingerprinting technology in King's Landing. Who knows whether it will come back to bite me… I wish she hadn't run into that guard earlier.

Luke: He's a Lannister, and he tried to kill Mira. Either one of those is enough justification for a stabbing. The fact that both were true made me sad I couldn't stab him a few more times, just for kicks.

Nathan: I made this call in the heat of the moment. Someone tried to kill me, and they were about to drown my friend. I killed him, but I should have fled while I had the chance. As soon as I stuck the knife in the guy, I was like, "Fuck, that was a mistake." Yeah, street urchin dude had been a loyal friend to Mira, but you don't murder a high-ranking Lannister anything and come out on top in King's Landing. That's not how the game of thrones is played. Having that kind of blood on your hands leaves fingerprints. Now I've got all sorts of skeletons in my closet: a missing guard, someone who could squeal on me, and plenty of reasons for people like Margaery and Tyrion to turn on me. Mira herself is kinda boring and tough to care about, but I imagine her next episode will be exciting — for better or worse.

Tina: I killed him, because it's kill or be killed and that guy was just so damn rude.

The Choices We Made In Game of Thrones Episode Two

So there you have 'em — our choices from this episode. I asked everyone to reply separately, and it's interesting how some of our choices and rationales were similar, while some were very different! I'm curious what you all did, too, so I hope you'll let us know below.


Comments

    I pretty much came through with the same results. Didn't win the betrothal though. I blurted out "I love you!", should have known better than to think love would have an influence in a world where little girls are given away by their families as slaves for richer women.

    I won the betrothal. I didn't realise you could lose it.. Guess I just have a way with the ladies. Although I did kiss Whitehill's ring and she was horrified that I did.... I did it with the attitude of "i'll do this now and kill this fat piece of shit later when I've recovered and have an army". My mother wanted to see her youngest... I wasn't going to rob her of that over my pride. Didn't forget the letter, stood up for cotter, and hell yes I stabbed that jerkish guard.

    I lost the betrothal but I'm betting everything on Asher winning the day

    I chose Mira's decisions from a different angle. I think she is a bit of a blank page in that there isn't as much backstory on her character as the other Forresters. So as things panned out I decided that she would be trying everything in her power to help her family but wouldn't necessarily understand the possible repercussions.

    I'm not treating her as stupid, I'm still making her very suspicious of the street kid and her hand maiden friend. I just know enough of the GOT world that she seems out of place at Kings Landing and should be making mistakes and getting drunk with the little bit of influence she does have.

    So I did forge the letter. Unfortunately it made Elaena Glennmore feel forced into the marriage so Rodrick (who I'm playing as honest) said yes that's the case but it's for his family so I got her marriage but on prickly terms. Didn't have to give away the Ironswood though.

    Last edited 08/02/15 1:04 pm

    The biggest decision for me was to throw the knife away or not?? I mean if they find the knife in the bushes they will know foul play took place. If they find it with Mira it will implicate her.

    Loved the episode btw. How did it only get 7 out of 10 on IGN? What the?

    I'm torn over whether or not I did the right thing with the knife....
    My first choice was to throw it away, because fingerprinting doesn't exist, and they can't tie it back to Mira, unless the guard talks about seeing her. But after that, I realised that Mira might need the knife after the Whitehills (or whoever sent Damien), find out she's still alive. Then again it's Telltale, and characters only die when they want them to.
    Ps. My brother ran away from Damien (which probably would've been less dangerous, though the guard's still alive, and he's gonna go after you again probably), and Tom still shows up in the previews. So...ghost? Telltale bullshit?

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