Why Blizzard Ditched In-Game Items For Heroes Of The Storm

Why Blizzard Ditched In-Game Items For Heroes Of The Storm

One major difference between Heroes of the Storm and its competitors Dota 2 and League of Legends is the game's "talent system" that eschews individual character experience and items players can purchase from an in-game shop. Was Blizzard just trying to set itself apart by abandoning genre conventions? Not entirely.

Speaking in an interview with VentureBeat published this week, Heroes of the Storm senior artist Phill Gonzales made an interesting point: by abandoning an in-game economy that focused on gold and experience each character had to accumulate individually, the developers were able to make new kinds of MOBA characters and abilities. Like Abathur, a gross-looking Zerg monster who doesn't enter into battle directly, instead using a drone-like critter to hover over the heads of his allies so he can shield them and fire dart-like projectiles at nearby enemies:

Why Blizzard Ditched In-Game Items For Heroes Of The Storm

An unprecedented character design like this wouldn't have worked without the talent system, the developers argued. From the VentureBeat interview (emphasis added):

GamesBeat: It seems like you're being very creative with new characters. You're breaking MOBA conventions. Is that a deliberate choice, to differentiate yourself?

Gonzales: Somewhat? A lot of it stems from the talent system. We struggled for a long time with our item shop. When we were exploring just what kind of game we were making, well, a lot of these games have item shops. But when we did it, we thought, wait, Arthas has Frostmourne. Why would he need to buy a fire sword? That's why we started exploring the talent system, to enhance what's already there for the characters. That's what people love. That's what they're cursed with. That's what they're attached to. The talent system gave us freedom to do things that are really outside the box. We could never do an Abathur if we didn't have the talent system that we have, if we didn't have the shared experience. Now that we have those freedoms, we have an ability to explore so much. That's the thing that fascinates me the most about some of the new heroes coming on. Even things like Leoric's Undying trait. This is wild. A lot of it has to do with the talents, the shared experience, what stuff like that enables in the mechanics.

The developer's answer makes perfect sense. Since Abathur doesn't participate in battle directly, it's hard to imagine the critter holding his own in a game like League of Legends. Sitting behind your defences in League means that you don't accumulate enough gold or experience to properly develop your character over the course of the game.

Before seeing Gonzales's justification for the talent system, I'd assumed that Blizzard had chosen to jettison individual xp and in-game items because both played a huge part in making Dota 2 and League of Legends enormously complex and intimidating to newcomers or casual players — characteristics HOTS developers have often said they wanted to avoid to help make the game as accessible as possible.

The talent system definitely does help keep Heroes of the Storm refreshingly simple compared to its close genre peers. But the suggestion that it also allows the game's developers to create whacky new kinds of characters is a far more intriguing and promising thought for the future of this game. As I noted in my review of Heroes, Abathur and the other oddball characters like him are some of the coolest, most novel parts of this game. Now that HOTS has officially left beta and officially launched, Blizzard has said that it's planning to add a new character to the game roughly every three weeks. Hopefully we'll see more bizarre and inventive creatures like the Zerg monster.


    Dota did it. Techies just runs around the map not fighting anyone and still manages to piss everyone off and be a glorious asshole.

    It's one of the thing that appeals to me about HotS, I'm 200hrs sunk into DOTA and I still don't know half the items very well and I'm still constantly asking my team what I should build mid to late game

    So I am still confused (though probably my fault, haven't been following this game a great deal), therefore I have some questions, that someone more knowledgeable might be able to shed some light on.
    So this has just a shared 'team' experience that everyone levels up from, so when your 'team' goes up a level from everyone's exp collecting, everyone on the team gets a level at the same time?
    I guess if you are dead you don't get any exp?
    Not sure how that would work if there are no individual exp?
    Does that mean that a team will always have every player on the same level at all times?
    And also no items, therefore no gold, so it's all about your levels only?
    I guess last-hit/denies still give your team more/less exp?

      You collect XP from being near dying enemies (there are no last hits). Everyone on the team collects XP (but not at the same rate obviously) and this all goes into a shared pot, which the team gains levels from (at the same time). If you're dead, you don't contribute to team XP, but you receive it. One of the match statistics is XP contribution from each player.

      There is no gold that is used to purchase items, but there are map-specific objectives and currencies like tributes or gold coins. In the that map, you collect gold coins to pay the NPC in the middle of the map, who'll launch cannonballs at enemy structures after you've paid him 10, then 12, then 14. That map is usually won by which team can fight for the coins better.

        Great, thanks very much for the clarrification mate, appreciate it.
        Sounds look a nice change-up.
        cheers :)

    thanks very much for the clarrification Great Response appreciate it could be

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