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  • I didn’t really play any new games over the weekend. Instead I went and visited my parents and cleared some backlogged games.

    Finished up Legend of Korra a year later from when I first played it. Extreme mode was ridiculously easy. I equipped the suggested items and just blew right through the mode. It just confirms my original opinion that the game was a disappointing Platinum game. What was annoying were two glitched achievements that needed extra work to unlock.

    Played through Dead Rising 2: Case West. Bought it on sale 5 years ago but only just now decided to play it. It’s really meh, seems more like it was DLC to appease the fans complaining about no camera or Frank West.

    Played through Comix Zone. Same deal, bought years ago and never played. Man that game is ridiculously hard. Mainly because it’s one life and game over. Doesn’t help that attacking objects reduces your health. So if you have to punch a door open and you have no health you’re screwed. Thankfully the game allows you to save it any time. Managed to get through within an hour.

    • Windows PC?
      First thing would be to check the event viewer. Expand “Windows Logs” then “System” and on the right, select “Filter Current Log” and only select Critical and Error for the last 7 days or so.

      See if there’s any applications hanging, or disk errors etc.

      • It’s started happening recently, like 2 to 3 weeks. It only happens on startup. If it doesn’t freeze on start up or on the desktop, it’s fine. It’s really weird. =/

        • Check the obvious, like stuck fans, or cables that might be obstructing fans, otherwise you can start windows in verbose logging mode, and see what it is doing when it hangs.

          • The fan is working because I can hear it, but it sounds a bit sick. I should clean out the pc anyway, but I don’t have any canned air. Is there anything else I can use to safely clean the dust out?

          • I use the vacuum cleaner, carefully. You can always use a dry paintbrush to loosen up the dust, or just blow on them vigorously.

          • Yeah brush + Vacuum is an good alternative. If you’ve got an industrial strength one just keep it at a decent distance from the machine so it’s only able to absorb the dust you’ve pushed around with the brush!

          • I find the vacuum cleaner really ineffective, but once rigged up with a McDonalds straw it does a good job of getting in the hard to reach places.

          • I used the brush and vacuum cleaner combo and it did an alright job. Oh and blowing too. Seeing as I used to play trumpet, I did a pretty good job.

    • How long do you leave it before declaring it frozen, 10 minutes or so just to make absolutely sure?

      Just to eliminate a software problem, would you have any system restore points from a few weeks ago?

      • I didn’t install anything new. It started happening abruptly. It seems to occur when I leave it unattended on start up. So if I’m making it do stuff, it works, but if I go off to get breakfast, by the time I come back, the mouse it not moving. I know it’s frozen because the off button turns off immediately. If it’s not frozen, you have to hold it in for at least 4 seconds.

  • Morning all, finally took delivery of the b-i-g 3D printer, so no more cutting jobs into pieces.
    Anyone got any suggestions for something large to test-print while I am calibrating it all?

  • What is wrong with me? Been working all weekend, so didn’t really have any time for Fallout 4, finally got a day off work, and so far it’s just been sitting on the start screen for the last hour while I’ve been browsing the internet.

    Wondering if I should even bother continuing at all, because I’m probably only gonna be able to squeeze in another 10 hours of playtime before Star Wars: Battlefront arrives in the mail, and then Just Cause 3 is out in 2 weeks, so I probably won’t have any time for it until at least christmas, and after that long I’m just gonna restart anyway.

    Bugger it, I’ll just play some more Lego Dimensions and maybe some DriveClub Bikes, or Minecraft: Story Mode while I wait for Battlefront.

  • Fallout!

    I finally made myself start progressing the main story and went to Diamond city (yes, I really hadn’t done any of it).
    Gotta say that the city being in the stadium was a nice surprise. I hadn’t given the name a second thought so it gave me a bit of a chuckle. The counter-point to this is Piper. Her introduction sequence made me want to punch her in the face (which, in power armour, is probably not a good thing to do). She uses me to get back in the city, uses me to argue with a guy I don’t know, and when I mention my son is kidnapped she gets excited about the story. The stereotypical reporter thing is annoying as hell.
    I’m sure she’ll get more endearing (or at least easier to tolerate) as time goes on…I hope, because I’m trying to play as a decent person for this run.

    • I played F3 like that, was hours before I found Megaton.

      She’s my fave companion. But then, she’s the perfect sidekick to the persuasive jerk I play as.

      If you spend some time with her, there’s more than just the cliched reporter persona. I won’t say anything but she’s not just in it for a scoop

    • I’m at about the same point as you (literally just walked in the gates).

      Piper is the first point so far where I’ve felt the engine really not doing people right. For some reason, her eyes (and no-one else’s I’ve noticed really) just look weeeeeeeird.

      • I’m glad I’m not the only person who noticed this. If my characters expressions where synced to my own she would be looking at her like “wtf is wrong with your face?”
        I’m positive it’s the real reason they want her out of the city.

      • I built her relationship up until I had the romance option, then ditched her for Deacon just for a change, but I miss having Piper.

    • Yeah she annoyed the crap outta me as well but she’s actually a decent side-kick once you get to know her! She’s all pro-good people (i.e. help people for free; look out for the little guy, uncompromising truth, etc).

    • It took me ages to go to diamond city too, as in something like 30 hours of gameplay doing town building, side quests and realising that I’m way, WAY too under levelled to be in some of the areas I was exploring. “How hard can this one little bunker be?” I think to myself, a few dozen skull level ghouls later including at least 2 legendary ones, I come out of the bunker to find myself being chased by a skull level sentry bot which I only barely manage to kill because it was distracted by the skull level radscorpion… It was about then that I decided that I should probably get around to looking for that kid I’m supposed to care about.

      While we’re on the topic of companions, Curie is my favourite by a wide margin but I’m rather liking Nick Valentine, gotta love a hard boiled PI (the ones with runny yolk are just nasty).

      One benefit of exploring so much is that I discovered that the bottom left of the map extends quite a long way beyond the border, something like 2-3 full grid squares. Its horribly irradiated (to the extent that I was contemplating using Rad-X even though I was in power armour) and full of deathclaws & radscorpions but certainly nice to explore (by which I mean terrifying but atmospheric)

      I’m already thinking about my second playthrough, there’s mods that let you alter the damage multiplier that both you and the enemy have, I’m planning to crank them both up to 200% and play the game like Arma where every bullet is potentially lethal.

    • Ha, i’m at about the same point as you.. I spent ages just exploring & pilfering shit 😛

      Yeah i didn’t really notice it was a stadium until I went to the mayor’s office & bought a house lol. It’s pretty cool.

      Edit: Also is it wrong I don’t care for the companions? I just want Dogmeat, cause he’s rad. I just like going at everything alone, it’s worked okay for me so far, i’ll probably regret this later on though haha.

  • Getting near 30 hours in Fallout 4. I’ve kinda completed the main objective, but to continue down that path means doing things I’m not comfortable with.

    So, I’ve been doing the Minutemen quests. Closest I can get to being a superhero in the Commonwealth. Albeit, a manipulative, lock picking, hacking superhero.

    • I think I’m also near to 30 hours. I’ve done a lot of Minuteman/settler sidequests but at this point they feel procedurally/randomly generated. I’ve rescued Abernathy Farm from Ghouls so many times it’s kind of ridiculous.

      As to the story:

      I’ve crossed the glowing sea to visit Virgil, found the Railroad, joined the Brotherhood, entered the Institute, given Virgil his FEV cure, arranged to break some Synths out of the institute, and warned the Railroad about the upcoming Battle of Bunker Hill – I’m stopped there because I’m not sure if I want to also get the BoS involved, given they’re at cross-purposes to the Railroad.

      • Oooh, I’m not quite as far along as you.

        I figured the
        Minutemen quests were that radial quest whatever, that Bethesda was going on about for Skyrim. Where it’s kind of sort of set up by the programmers but the Nov will choose a location you haven’t been.

        I got sent over one side of the map only to be told my actual quest was on the opposite side. Thank fuck for fast travel!

        Yeah, as soon as I got to the institute I was a bit weirded out & unsure. They’re obviously nuts but at the same time what they do could help.

        I like that kind of morality grey area.

  • Wheeeee!kend.

    Finally made the trip down to Gamesmen, which I’ve been meaning to do for ages and ages now. The museum is awesome. I don’t even know how to describe the feeling just wandering through there, looking at all those familiar boxes. It was like I was a kid again, wandering through Video Ezy trying to pick something to hire. Ended up grabbing myself some red n3DS plates since red+black​​ seems to be a thing for me now and also they were discounted, then lay down a preorder on the Xenoblade X special edition, because hype. Also picked up a second Thrustmaster T.16000M, because curiosity and whim.

    Saturday, caught up with my friend with the piano. Polish Girl? Idk. The thing was hilariously out of tune, some of the keys were three semitones flat according to the tuner readout. Thankfully most of ​​the keys were in tune relative to each other, so there wasn’t a whole lot of work in getting it playable. Bit of a pain in the arse though, it’s got all the spokes for the dampers in front of everything (“birdcage” I think they call the style) so it’s really difficult to actually get to the strings to mute them. We played around for a bit, but with a severe lack of common knowledge of songs it was difficult to actually get anywhere. How does jam work 😛 Gonna try again next weekend I think, we’re both keen to get something going. Surely it can’t be that hard, people do it all the time, right?

    She ended up getting messaged by some friends while I was there, and asked if I wanted to go bowling. So went off to the bakehouse ​​quarter to meet up with them for dinner, Korean barbecue. Bowling went alright. Started out crap on both games, getting gutterballs on the first ball of each frame. Bleh. Eventually turned things around and managed to climb to 2nd and 3rd respectively, and at least I broke 100 so I’m happy.

    Spotted something horrible when turning around to leave and seeing the arcade section. Apparently this is the world we live in now.​​ Two bucks a go. Though it pays out tickets pretty well (a couple of her friends had a go), so it’s not too bad if you’re alright at the game I guess. We all got a bunch of temporary tattoos with them 😛

    Went to try and play Elite on Sunday, with the 1.5 beta being released. Only to find that I can’t actually play the main game, keep getting an error saying I can’t connect to the transaction server 🙁 Could get into CQC though, so went to check out the Imperial Fighter. Except it took *forever* to get into a match, so testing wasn’t pretty slow going.​​ It’s pretty cool, seems fairly similar to the Condor I guess. Spinning around for a u-turn it seems to have quite a lot of reverse thrust. Crazy delicate though, I felt like I was exploding far easier though I don’t know if there’s been any tweaks to things in the past month since I last played.

    After that, went to training mode to test out some twin-stick action. It’s… hard 😛 But feels really fun. I need to tweak my binds a whole lot more, and find something a bit better​​ than what I’ve currently got. Also need to get used to them. Currently have power management on the hat switch, which feels weird and unwieldy to use compared to the keypad setup I had before. I’m not sure what I’ll do if I can’t get as good with this as I am with single stick though. Guess I’ll just have to wait and see what happens, get some more practise in.

  • Sooooo… weekend. Super-extremely-personal stuff following, so spoilered accordingly.

    I haven’t checked in on TAY since Wednesday and it’s been…. well it’s been a pretty rough few days to be honest. My depression has kicked up a notch and is manifesting in fun (not fun) and interesting (not interesting) ways some of which are new and some of which are escalations of old themes.

    What was most fun (not fun) was some of my friends calling an intervention and calling an ambulance on me because I’d gotten that bad. Did I forget to mention that I’ve been suicidally depressed? My bad. I’ve been hiding that from everybody everywhere. I happened to mention it to a friend who was asking me about my depression (i.e. how bad were things?) and she put two and two together and realised that shit was pretty serious when I didn’t show up for work on Thursday. Never mind that she was right, I wasn’t having any of it. Lied my way (I can be very high functioning when I want to be) out of an involuntary trip to the hospital and promptly fell asleep. Woke up and had my darkest night yet.

    So Friday I started coming out of things and realising that I’d gotten to a point of no return. Spoke with my friends and they rallied to the cause, rolling up to the house, whisking me away to the hospital where I had a psych evaluation and was told I wasn’t a danger to myself (hooray) but that I needed a referral to a clinical psychologist for treatment and monitoring.

    Spent Saturday night at a friend’s place and hung out with her all Sunday just to get me out of the house and do something different. Felt good, and I’m starting to go on an upward swing at the moment. I’ve been monitoring my moods for the past few weeks and I’m starting to suspect there may be some patterns to it. Extreme highs every couple weeks followed by extreme lows every couple weeks.

    Will see what the doctor has to say about it when I see them later today. Anyway, I just wanted to let my TAY family know what’s going on since the cat is out of the bag for real now. No point in hiding things and I’d rather be honest with the people who mean so much to me, even if not physically present.

    And now something with a bit less weight. Page 6 came early!

    What’s the difference between a hippo and a zippo? One is really heavy, the other is a little lighter.

    • Good to hear you’re taking positive steps to manage your mental health. Keep it up and know that you have people here who are more than willing you help you out/talk to you if you need it.

      • It’s good to know for me too. I was a little annoyed (but NOT angry) at one point but that was just my irrational subconscious talking.

    • im glad you have good friends in your life that you can talk about this with, hugs man. just hugs.
      I used to find it really easy to lie to people about how i was feeling and it made me feel even worse. If you are having a bad day please dont isolate yourself. Let someone know, let a friend or a family member or even me if you want a non judgemental shoulder to lean on. Just dont try and fight it alone because it will make you feel even more horrible that you are lying to the people you care about.

      Hugs man

      • I know what you mean. Lying about things is really, like scarily so, easy and it was made all the worse because I’d want to say something and my brain would be screaming JUST TELL SOMEBODY WHAT YOU’RE GOING THROUGH! and then I’d go to say it and just say Nah, I’m fine. I’d hate myself in those moments which then made me feel worse and it was a vicious cycle. Part of why I’m trying to be honest for once; so I don’t have to feel that shameful lying any more.

    • Shit man, had no idea, you always seem like such a happy person. I’ve suffered from depression, so I know what it’s like, admittedly I’ve never gotten to the point of being suicidal. You’ve done the right thing though, I found just talking about it helps massively, at first I didn’t even feel comfortable talking to my wife about it, so I just typed out how I was feeling, printed it out and gave it to her, it didn’t instantly fix things, but it helped.

      We’re here for ya man, hit me up on Steam anytime if you want to talk. *brohug*

      Also, don’t know if you’ve seen this, but it might put a smile on your dial.

      • That’s a big part of it, outwardly it’s easy to seem like a happy dude – hell a lot of my humour and pop culture references etc are so hard wired in to me I don’t even control them any more. They just happen whether I want them to or not. That’s a great suggestion about writing things out though. I find it simple to write on a keyboard and much easier than actually talking, that could be a way to go. It’s weird (or not) though… once I got referred to the specialist they called me on Saturday and I spoke to them for 30 minutes so they could get my background details and in that 30 minutes I was able to say more and talk more freely than I had in … maybe ever? I said things that I’ve only thought in my darkest nights, and they just came out all at once. Maybe it was the relief at having it all out there, finally, with nothing to hide behind, but strangers can sometimes be the easiest people to talk to because we don’t already know and love them. Food for thought.

        • That’s a big part of it, outwardly it’s easy to seem like a happy dude – hell a lot of my humour and pop culture references etc are so hard wired in to me I don’t even control them any more. They just happen whether I want them to or not.So much this. Even when I’m feeling like total crap or the situation doesn’t call for it at all, I’ll still 100% come out with levity and jokes in place of seriousness. No control.
          Typing is so much easier than talking. I can’t imagine how insane I’d go if I couldn’t unload on my friends over MSN/Skype over the years. Interesting about the stranger talk thing though.

        • Glad you’re on the path, man. I’ll be sending good thoughts.

          Also offering an ear whenever you need one (though I don’t think they really count unless it’s a legit kill).

          I went to a psychiatrist once to treat what I think is some medium-to-long-term depression. Didn’t go as well as yours did (I’m notoriously bad at articulating feelings), and in the end got the exact advice about free-flowing rivers that I wrote into Undad (so at least it was good for something). I felt more isolated than ever afterwards, and never went back.

          • Gotta admit, there’s a teeny tiny part of me saying “This positivity is just because you’re on an upward swing and will come crashing down around you on the next cycle. I said to the clinician today that my key goal is to make sure that I keep this positive forward momentum going and not lose traction. This time will be the last. (Ish.)

    • With evilmonkey on this one I had no idea either! It’s good you’re taking the first steps in fighting it which is recognizing it’s something that needs to be fought. I’ve had multiple bouts with depression over the years and I still find personal productivity the best cure for myself (i.e. gym; painting) that said it varies greatly from person to person so I hope you get better and know that asking for help from your friends is the best thing you could’ve done!

      • Yeah, right now I’m at work which seems a little strange to some but at the same time for me it’s a known quantity and something I can do on autopilot so it’s helping keep me engaged and focussed on what my next steps need to be. Just trying to keep myself occupied in the short term so that I can focus on the long term solutions properly.

        • The absolute worst thing I found for depression was to keep idle. When my waves hit me leaving myself alone with my thoughts always turns sour. So yeah work, gym, hobbies, socializing, all that helps immensely in pushing back depression. The biggest hurdle is recognising you are depressed; which you’ve already crossed bob so you’re on the right track to fighting this thing.

    • So nasty, and so familiar.

      Mine comes out in weird ways too. I get it, and reading through plenty of other TAYbies do too. I’m glad you’ve recognised and admitted it’s happening, that’s always the hardest part – “it’s not as bad as last time, I’ll be fine”. Insidious shit, depression.

      • It’s a hugsplosion! What am I going to do with all these hugs? I better get a wacky arm inflatable tube guy to help me sell them.

    • Dude.
      All I can offer from this side of the country are digital hugs and an offer to listen if you need someone to talk to.
      Good to see that you’re taking positive steps, and I hope that they result in some good changes.
      You mean a lot to many people. Please try not to be afraid to ask for help, because we’ll give it willingly.

      • Thanks buddy. Now that I’ve put things out there asking for help doesn’t seem so difficult. It’s just been taking that first step. It’s exhausting trying to hide things, so much more liberating to be honest with the people who mean most to me.

    • UPDATE

      So I’m back from the “acute care” team at the hospital. Spoke with a clinician for over an hour, got pages of notes taken down for a report. The doctor wasn’t available so I’m going back on Thursday to discuss diagnosis and medications and long term treatment.

      It felt good to talk with that level of honesty. I was telling them about revealing everything on here and how it was a way of me removing any chance of hiding and getting everything out in the open, and that’s been the best thing. I was able to start digging in to triggers and working out the recurring patterns that have been present for a long time so that we can hone in on a correct diagnosis. There’s some early signs but until a doctor confirms everything it’s still awaiting proper diagnosis but at the very least I’m feeling better about things and about myself.

      Thanks everybody for your outpouring of support. Your love makes me feel very cared for and I’m positive I can get through all this – especially with a little help from my friends.


    • I feel the need to apologise for myself for being so damn handsome, and on behalf of my city for being so awesome. Having a fleeting magical weekend and losing that can cause anybody to question their place in the world. Even though you have left us for now, remember a part of us will always be in your heart.

  • I went for a swim from Manly to Shelly Beach and back on Sunday with The Bold & The Beautiful. The water felt cold at first (19C) but felt good after a while. Great way to start the day.

    I ended up finishing A Link Between Worlds and don’t really care for it. It’s a well-designed game but the story aspects I find are very bare-bones and the game felt like it dragged towards the end.

    I started Little Big Planet Vita, which is pretty cool despite some awkward rear touchpad antics.

    Started watching some anime with my kids. We are about 6 episodes into Free, which is delightful. I watched one episode of Food Wars with my daughter before silently relegating it to alone time. Great fun but it contains some stuff that is completely inappropriate for a 7 year-old.

    Played some Armello with my daughter as well. Great fun.

  • Hi boys and girls! I’m thinking of starting a new blog for the occasional wording.

    At the moment, it’s just but that’s not the most amazing name in the history of the world. Any suggestions? I’ve been struggling because everything rabbit and/or board game related sounds like a porn site. I really don’t think I’ll get the intended audience with

  • Hey, you all liked PAX, so what about PAX for Discworld?

    Tickets just went on sale for Nullus Anxietas VI, the Australian Discworld convention. This next one is running in Adelaide in 2017, and if you’re in the first 50 ticket purchasers there’s a sweet goodie.

    Also, I’m helping organise some parts of it

    Tickets and deets here

    • Sounds fantastic, I’m in for su…. Oh. It requires going actually into Adelaide? Yeah, I’ve got, uh, a hair washing appointment. Damn. I’ll have to miss out.

        • Adelaide is the only Australian capital I’ve never visited. May need to rectify that in the future as long as someone can tell me where all the good food is.

          • Gouger Street, O’Connell Street, Rundle Street. Some good stuff up Prospect and Henley Beach roads. Lots of little hipstery cafes springing up, and a bunch of hidden gems.

            Also, head to the hills or the Barossa and it’s all about food and wine.

        • Looking at doing a family holiday early next year. Will need to be driving so Adelaide is probably about the furthest we could get to. Going from Ballarat it is probably just a day trip over.
          We are considering places we could go at the moment

          • @cookingmama is right, come here in march and it’s party town. Fringe Festival, Arts festival… V8s if you’re into that, city buzzes for like 6 weeks

        • I do love me some cycling.
          Tiglet would probably enjoy the classic, even if it is getting a little late for her. I might be able to convince Mrs Tigs of that. Convincing her to want to watch the next 6 stages might be a bit harder.

          • Last time I was in Adelaide was for the Australia Day weekend (quite a few years back). A group of us went for Test Cricket, the Tour Down Under was about to start (or had just started), I got to see the parade in the city and we had a wine tour and a day out at Handorf.

  • Speaking of Star Wars, found a limited edition copy of A New Hope (the 2006 release with the original theatrical version included) on EBay yesterday for 20 bucks with free shipping. Snapped that puppy up quicksmart. Can’t wait for it to come in the mail, haven’t seen the original theatrical version since George added in the extra stuff to make the special edition almost 20 years ago.

      • I’ve got the 2004 release (first time on DVD) and the 1997 VHS Special Edition version. Didn’t bother buying it again in 2006 at the time I didn’t realize it came with the original theatrical versions and didn’t see the point of buying it again.

        Seriously hoping Disney are going to re-release the untampered trilogy on Blu-Ray before The Force Awakens comes out, but Fox may put the kybosh on that idea because they still own the distribution rights for episode V and VI till 2020 and the rights to IV until such time as Disney drives a million dump trucks full of money to Rupert Murdoch’s house.

        Still don’t own the prequel trilogy (haven’t even seen them since I went to see each of them at the cinema). Probably should finally get around to buying it, it’s cheap enough now.

        • There is a new rerelease out now, with Vader on the cover of the complete six film edition. I wonder if that’s without special effects?

          • Nah. It would have made the news. I’ve been keeping half an eye out. I’m pretty sure the only version that can be bought new is the one with Hayden Christiansen at the end of ROTJ.

    • I bought a trilogy of those limited edition copies for $29.95 at my local second hand place. Absolute bargain. I’ve also got a copy of the Despecialised Edition of the trilogy on Blu-Ray.

      It’s the only version of the films my kids have seen.

    • It DVD release is horrible, it is a straight transfer of the tapes they used to make the old laserdisc versions, converted from NTSC to PAL.
      I’m restoring the original 35mm theatrical prints, scanning them at 4K. I can’t watch the Special Editions, they make me cringe.

  • So current XCOM Board game statistics, Victories:
    Then there’s normal, hard and expert we’ve yet to even try… cripes this game is hard, but so darn fun to play!

    • With co-op games, you’re meant to lose about 2/3 of the time. You know that you’re playing at the right difficult when you’re still winning enough to feel good but losing enough to make those victories feel earned.

      • It does feel quite crushing to be defeated on a difficulty like “Tutorial” :P. Main reason we won the last tutorial game was due to the interceptors taking out over a dozen UFOs without taking a single loss.
        That was really the only thing keeping us afloat since our Squad Officer kept falling short of completing one mission the whole game, when we finally beat that first mission, we were lucky that the app threw the final mission at us at that final moment.

  • Freya, Blaghs and I started playing Pandemic: Legacy yesterday. It is rad.

    Non-spoilery things: The game is broken up into 12 months. If you lose the first game of a month, you get a redemption game in the same month. We did not lose. We won both games and are now up to March.

    Spoilery things (spoilers are for January and February):
    Red is a jerk. Red is such a jerk that the disease is now incurable and we have to use a new quarantine mechanic to stop it from causing chaos and bedlam. We came tantalisingly close to eradicating yellow in our first game (because we didn’t draw any yellow cards from the infection deck until the turn before curing yellow, part of why red is such a jerk) and could’ve eradicated blue in the second but went for a quick victory instead.

    Got to say. Legacy games are rad. There need to be more legacy games. 7 Wonders Legacy anyone?

      • It’s a separate product, like Risk Legacy.

        The box contains one campaign, with persistence between individual games. The game changes as you draw decks from the legacy deck (which happens on events like outbreaks, curing a disease, or at the beginning/end of a game).

      • No, it’s an entirely different version.

        Based on Risk: Legacy, basically the idea is that stuff that happens in one game affects the subsequent games- so in Risk, for example, if a site gets nuked, in the next game you can’t use it again. They’re designed so that they have an arc of plays (for Risk Legacy it was 15, I think for Pandemic it’s 12) and then it’s done.

        Really neat bit of design. I’ve not been involved in one yet, but my Brother played the Risk one. apparently they fot to game 13 and then he broke up with his girlfriend and the other couple they were playing with also broke up, so it’ll never get finished

    • 7 Wonders Legacy? WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?

      P.S. Was telling a friend about Duel. You had pretty good impressions of it, didn’t you?

      • 7 Wonders Legacy would be amazing. Tear cards up, add new ones, different leaders rise and fall, the tower of babel gets destroyed and rebuilt, science marches on…

      • I only played one game and it was against Blaghs. Not sure that’s entirely indicative of the quality of the game.

        Most importantly, Duel uses the same logic and decision making you get in 7 Wonders. Specifically the decisions you make once you’ve played a few dozen games and get a good feel for what other players are trying to do. That means hate-drafting is totally a thing. Hell, it might be mandatory.

        So it succeeds in what it’s trying to do.

        I don’t know if that makes it a good two player game. Right now, I’d say it’s a good implementation of draft logic into a two player game. Draft logic simply may not work with two players after the initial shine wears off. Clearly the solution here is to play more games.

        I suspect it’s going to be a decent game but won’t be as great as the original.

  • Fallout 4 question (no real spoilers except for a detail in intro movie)

    Has anyone done anything with the Wedding rings like crafting components or sold them? Feels like it would be wrong to so have held onto them and doubt I will do anything else.

    • I’m holding on to mine. 10% in case it becomes useful, 90% because (in character) I could never justify letting it go for obvious reasons.

    • Due to auto / cloud save shenanigans while changing PCs, the one I’m not wearing is no longer in my inventory. Not sure if it’s because it got dumped to the stash with the ‘all junk’ option and then used in crafting, or if my resumed save was just before I went back for it. Eh. Edit: going to spoiler even though I mention no details.

      • I’m not dumping all junk because some of it is actually used as non-components for other crafting. Things like meds, cooking, etc. (probably more)

        • Now that part – that I don’t get.
          I can dump to a stash at the bench, but then I can’t access those items for bench related activities. So silly.
          Think I just need to build a proper place in sanctuary complete with lots of storage containers for stashing things.

          • I’ve been using my old house with plans to build an unnecessarily big place at some point (once I figure out where I want to live). If you go to your bedroom there’s two containers in there to dump spare stuff. I’ve been using one for weapons, one for armour, and I built a third container in the built-in wardrobe for spare junk.

            It’s not the most convenient setup but it’s enough for now.

          • You should be able to. I’m dumping most of my uncocked food in the Workbench and can use it for cooking. It only works for the location/town you dumped the items though which while makes sense in a real world sense is just stupid in a gameplay sense.

          • I pushed my way to the Local Leader perk since I assumed this would make for a universal stash. Results inconclusive.

  • Saw Spectre yesterday with @alexpants. I almost feel guilty for enjoying it as much as I did. From a technical standpoint it’s great. The opening shot if pure film porn.

    But the story is rubbish. They destroy any character development that Skyfall made. Also holy shit is it long. Except it’s not. It runs 7 minutes longer than Skyfall and 5 mins longer than Casino Royale, but it just seems to go on forever.

    But, with all that said, I still enjoyed it. It was still better than Quantam of Solace.

    So, for a Monday morning question:

    What is your guilty pleasure movie(s)? I have a soft spot for the Resident Evil movies (except the last one…) and Alien vs. Predator. Even though I should hate everything about them.

    • Suckerpunch. It’s a terrible movie but it’s so pretty.

      Edit: Now I think on it I think Zack Snyder in general is my guilty pleasure. Enjoyed everything he’s made.

    • I liked the cinematography in spectre, the whole mexico city thing was brilliantly shot. Even the lighting, i feel the lighting director in bond films just does everything sooooo right. The plot was fucking terrible. But i feel like i still really enjoyed it.


    • I have watched nearly all pokemon movies that have been released and my friend and i keep a keen eye for releases of new movies and watch them nearly as soon as they come out. I have no idea why but i get a lot of enjoyment from them.

      • Oh, probably Fast & Furious series. Maybe moreso 1-4, since 5 and onwards was where it just took the silliness up to screw-bad-this-is-rad levels.

    • I like Man of Steel.

      Fuck the haters, I’m not guilty about it at all. Sure, it wasn’t like Superman: The Movie, but I liked the layer of mistrust between supes and the military on top of it.

    • Not that I’ve watched it since it was in the cinema, but I feel the same about AvP.

      Otherwise? It’s tough. I’m happy to enjoy a movie for a single aspect. For instance, Oblivion was an extremely dumb movie, but it looked really good, so I enjoyed it for that. Hardly a top movie for me, but just an example that springs to mind.

      Oh, wait. Chick flicks. Love Actually is wonderful, and I will hear nothing against it. My Big Fat Greek Wedding is a masterpiece (it really isn’t), Mamma Mia is the pinnacle of cinematic greatness (it’s fucking awful, but it has ABBA songs so you shut your whore mouth).

      Clueless, Mean Girls, Easy A, and 10 Things I Hate About You are the perfect representations of everything right and wrong about highschool (and how it’s typically portrayed in movies).

      And unlike the rest of the movies here About Time is actually a good movie, so I don’t know why I’m mentioning it.

      Also, Legally Blonde. That movie is exactly as dumb as it needs to be to hide how smart it is.

      • Clueless and 10 Things I Hate About You are the perfect representations of everything wrong about high school
        I agree…mostly because I had to study both in English 😛

    • Super Mario Brothers is mine.

      Also Clerks II. Not because it’s clever (although it is), but just because it’s foul-mouthed and dirty.

      And depending on your opinion of Hugh Grant, Music and Lyrics too.

    • Loved the opening scene of Spectre, especially how it was set during

      Dia de los muertos.

      Also, the amount of people I’ve heard pronounce it “spec-tra” is a bit depressing.

      I seem to love a lot of movies that most people don’t, but the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are

      Dumb and Dumber
      Dumb and Dumber To
      Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
      Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
      Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
      oh, and Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil

      Edit: Just thought of another one, CB4.

      • Why is Tucker and Dale vs Evil on this list? It’s brilliant, and does to Deliverance what Scream did to Halloween.

        Also… Jim Carrey is a boss, and I won’t hear a bad word said about him. Unless you’re criticizing him for being an anti-vaxxer, because fuck that guy.

        • Always loved Jim Carrey, but I know a lot of people can’t stand him.

          Also, yeah TADVE is freakin’ awesome, but I only know one other person that’s watched it, although he thought it was awesome too. So yeah, I think it’s more of a movie that people haven’t seen/heard of rather than one that people don’t like.

    • I love dumb action movies. Silly plot, big splosions. Scifi for the win (The Fifth Element springs to mind). Also, old-school Disney movies like Robin Hood. Pretty much anything by Mel Brooks.

  • Hola Tayberinos

    Quietish weekend filled with BOARD GAMES… and Fallout.

    Had friends over Saturday for games. Played a couple of rounds of Burgle Bros (Good lord is it fun), Suburbia (the Inc expansion is really good) and tried to introduce Spyfall, to mixed response. Think I’ll try it with a different group, because it needs a bit of theatricality which my group doesn’t always possess. Then we played Cosmic Encounter, which was a hit. The two candidate winners duked it out while someone who’d been sitting quietly all game took victory through alliances, a masterful strategy. When she said “I’ve just won” we all counted colonies and went “huh. OH MY GOD HOW DID WE LET THAT HAPPEN” which is such a fun thing.

    Sunday went to a mate’s place and played some magic. Man I love my Xenagos deck, and this card is kinda nuts for a 3 drop, and in commander especially just gets massive quick.

    A Monday Morning Question: How’s the family?

    • Wife is ridonkulously sick, my eldest is getting a real attitude about her meaning her teenage years are going to be a blast and I’m pretty sure at times my youngest may be retarded,we found her last night banging her head against the wall in a fit of giggles.

      How about yours?

      • My daughter has decided riding the dog like a horse is a blast and has proceeded to now try to push people and other babies over to do the same.

        I wish i could get away with that sort of shit…

          • At the cafe on Saturday she walked up to a boy, smiled at him and then threw a toy right at his head then laughed histerically.

            She then shirtfronted another little girl.

            She seems to excel at making me feel awkward in front of other parents. I’ve lost count of how many times i’ve appologised for her.

      • Mother is moderating on a TRT rate all week, so I think she’s about to upgrade even more on her sewing machine. Dad’s home looking after the dog. IDK what my brother is up to. Pop’s still sick, family relationship there is still a mess. Cousin’s been texting me about Fallout, apparently he thought the game worked by just putting points in SPECIAL each level so he has no perks but crazy stats.

    • Family is fine, board games are more important.

      Canberra has a monthly board gaming event called GLOG (Gungahlin Library Open Gaming) where a bunch of nerds cram themselves into a library conference room all day and play games. It’s rad. It’s rad enough that the fact the lights weren’t working wasn’t too bad.

      I went with the vague plan of checking out a bunch of games I hadn’t played before.

      Of course, that meant the first game I played was Codenames. Then Village. Then Discworld: Ankh-Morpork, Skull and finally Spyfall. I taught the table how to play all of those games except for Skull (Village was with experienced players but we busted out expansions that I had to teach).

      What a complete and utter failure.

      Except I got to play rad games that I enjoy. Hell, I even won at Ankh-Morpork as Dragon King of Arms. Never done that before. My plan was simple: get all the moneys early and then hope that people don’t think I have that win condition, leaving me with the responsibility of cleaning up trouble markers so that whoever had Dragon King of Arms didn’t win.

      Going to remember that one for later.

      • I always make it a rule to play at least one game I don’t own at board games things. Last time I played Istanbul, which is a cool guy. Also, I’ve played Stone Age at the last two I’ve been to, which is cool but I don’t want to buy.

        • One of the biggest problems I have is that I don’t play the games that I do own enough.

          There are some titles that I’ve only played once or twice. So I don’t mind too much when I get an excuse to play them again (getting Village to the table is always a win for me).

          The last board game thingy I went to, I got to play Stone Age and Notre Dame for the first time. Those were rad. I may be able to go to another one tonight, where I could either get more games of 7 Wonders Duel out or maybe get Broom Service to the table.

          • I’m still yet to play Spartacus and Tiny Epic Galaxies out of my collection, so they’re certainly planned for next time I can.

            I also caved and decided to order Paperback because another mate liked Burgle bros. I think Tim Fowers should now be giving me a commission.

          • Stone Age for me needs just a little extra something. It’s too easy to just pick one of the strategies and dominate it.

            Like, “I’ll be the guy who outbreeds everyone” or “I’ll be the guy who invests in tech to hit my rolls.” Just needs a little more for me.

            Next board game thing I go to I think I need to try between two cities

          • I almost won in Stone Age by having a bit of everything. Any game where you have control over when the game ends can let you pull the rug out from other players when they’re setting up for their final flurry of points. Which is exactly what I did, taking a good chunk of points from huts to end the game on a turn everyone was gathering resources.

            Still lost to someone who got a few card bonuses that gave them a better overall strategy than mine.

            Edit: That being said, it’s a worker placement game with quite a lot of luck. I don’t like that in my worker placement games.

            Between Two Cities is rad. It’s an insta-buy for me.

          • I’ll try it first, because it looks good, but Tile laying to make cities is what I have Suburbia for and I love it so.

          • The best thing I can say about it is that the semi-co-op aspect helps solves the newbie draft dilemma. When a new player sits down to play a game with drafting, they’re not going to know the value of anything. Working together, you can help guide a new player towards some rad plan in some way.

            Oh and the city building thing is quite neat, as is the end game scoring mechanic.

            It does a lot of things that I like in games.

          • @trjn I figure it’s cool, but I have other games in the niche and my collection isn’t at the point where I need to double up on niches.

            One I really need to play again is Race for the Galaxy, which once I grokked more I loved playing. I also need someone to teach me Roll for the galaxy, because one of those would be sweet.

        • Holy hell – that is one hell of a card.

          Quick Q – can commander cards be used in regular play as well as commander, minus the commander cards.

          • um, depends.

            Commander cards are legal in any format where they would otherwise be legal. So, all cards in commander are legal in legacy (in fact, one of the cards in the 2013 precons was stupidly valuable for a bit, google True-Name nemesis for the sordid history), cards that are already modern legal are usable in modern, and cards that are in standard are in standard.

            On your kitchen table, however, it’s whatever you want. You’ll find the Commander pre-cons are constructed for commander, so they have interesting multiplayer interactions, and commander decks tend towards the expensive mana cost end of the spectrum, so a commander deck playing against a regular deck will probably lose before it comes properly online.

          • My advice is just pick a format or two and focus on it with your friends, because ultimately that’s why you play, right? I know some people get into competing in the store and heavily get into tournament play, but for me the most fun is sitting around a table and laughing with your buddies, and swearing at one person who built his girlfriend’s deck which she’s successfully piloted into destroying everything including him while he stares on mortified. That’s what I play commander for.

            Work out if you’re a Timmy, a Johnny, or a Spike I’m somewhere in TImmy/Johnny.

          • That was actually a really interesting read – thanks mate.
            My brother in law is definitely 110% Timmy – just wants strong ass-kicking out of the packet. Big monsters and big fun – he hates losing though.

            I’m also very much a timmy is most ways, just because i don’t really have the time to be hardcore in the constructing, but i do like to play around with things a little, that makes me a bit of a Johnny.

            I don’t really have much care for tournament play.

          • @chuloopa I’d stick to just building for-fun kitchen table for now then, don’t worry about standard/modern/whatever.

            FWIW, my decks are almost entirely commander these days, I think I have one draft leftovers deck I can pull out. Got a mate whose playgroup is all constructed weirdness, whom I’ve played with, and it’s fun (but I’m nowhere near competitive there).

            One day I’ll build a cube too

    • Alright I guess. Sister continues to mostly live at her boyfriend’s place, parents seem to continue to tolerate my presence. So things could be worse? 😛

    • Wife is 7 months pregnant and just wants her body back. She finishes work in 2 weeks. Preparing to be a scrooge for the next 12 months.

      My daughter recently got bitten by someone at day care, threw a punch at his head. Secretly very proud.

      One of my dogs has dug out 3 times in the last 2 weeks – 2 trips to the vet to collect him and most recently he was at the gate waiting to come in for breakfast before I got out of bed. In his most recent foray we think he was running in the storm water channel/creek extension at the park near our house. Theory is based on the fact he smelt like creek and his attempts yesterday to drag me into the same storm water channel during his walk.

      Have a uni report due next week. People on leave in team from next week so work is going to be hectic from now through to middle of December.

      Edit… So much ‘bad’ stuff… guess there are a few silver linings – my daughter knows how to throw a punch, my dog loves his adventures, not buying anything for a while should let me clear a game or two I’ve been sitting on.

    • Immediate family are fine – nearly at the end of kindy orientations, and the little boy is enjoying his swimming lessons.

      The next few weeks are going to be hard for my family. My little sister (who passed away in september) would have had her birthday next week, and christmas is going to be sad too.

  • Finally finished Bloodborne. That’s GOTY material right there.

    Now to go back and find the other half of the game i skipped my first time through.

    • I’ve been meaning to go back and do that but I beat so many of the bosses with one try on my first playthrough that I don’t wanna shatter my ego by getting stuck at one in New Game +.

      • I skipped the entire chalice bits so that’s my motivation. But I’m thinking I’ll put off my second run till the expansion is out. Also that first try thing, not an issue with me. I died plenty.

  • Apologies, as I haven’t frequented recently. Assessing career/life options and mobile data plans, as I’ve told Red (a week late – sorry!)

    Was pretty bored with Guitar Hero Live, so I packaged it all back up and resealed it and took it back to Target for a credit. Was pretty excited about picking up Fallout 4 and Rise of the Tomb Raider with said credit until I made the mistake of ringing my wife to tell her that Target credited me $119 instead of the $109 I originally paid. She then exclaimed, ‘Great! Now we can buy everyone’s Christmas presents!’

    Ugh, it is a better idea than splurging on the latest games that I’ll likely hardly play more than two hours of anyway.

    • I initially set out to do the right thing and enquired with EB about a trade in where they sternly told me they would give $30 credit.

      Me: We’re talking about the new Guitar Hero, right?
      EB: Yes.
      Me: You sell this for $149. Is $30 for the guitar controller or the game itself?
      EB: Both.
      Me: …

  • Had last week off work which was mostly wasted as I was sick from the previous Friday until about Wednesday. On the upside, I was strong enough to go to the Fallout 4 midnight launch but still lost a bunch of playtime to sick-induced sleep. After wallowing in my own sedentariness for a week some frineds who relocated to NZ earlier in the year made a surprise visit. My buddy was here basically to see his newborn nephew and hadn’t planned to meet up with anyone (because it’s always so hectic feeling like you have to meet up with EVERYONE) but found himself free on Saturday night, so we hit up Coco Cubano in Parramatta, where I spent several hours drinking far too much Cuban beer and Caribbean rum. Got my first Uber which was a generally positive experience. Downside is I spent all of Sunday sleeping off the booze/hangover after getting home at about 6am, so now I’m back at work and feel like the weekend was wasted, which is so dumb considering what a great time I had Saturday night. Just how my stupid brain functions, making me think the only “downtime” I have is when I’m sitting doing nothing. I do enough of that at work!

  • How about Bun’s Pen Island? Because it’s your little piece amongst the sea of the internet for you to write.

  • I totally forgot that new Battlefront is imminent. Still need to decide if I’m going to get it now or soonish…and apparently AC: Sin Dickette is out on PC now too? Shit, I thought I had more time between Fallout and the sudden avalanche of new games.

    *stares pensively at Just Cause 3 peeking from round the corner*

  • Having siblings that are young enough to be your own kids is a little weird and I feel more like an uncle than a brother. In any case, babysitting is hard and I don’t know how parents actually cope with toddlers that run around at a million miles an hour.

    I didn’t play any RPGs over the weekend but I played some Blood Bowl yesterday. Nuffle giveth and Nuffle taketh away. I had one absolutely stellar game with Elves and ridiculous luck (so much so that my opponent accused me of cheating) followed by Orcs and everything going terribly, terribly wrong. At least the troll didn’t kill any goblins by eating them.

    • It’s called ABC4Kids. It’s channel 22 and it’s the best thing in the whole world if you have a child under 5 in the house.

  • Morning, TAY.

    Went and saw a bunch more films in the Japanese Film Festival on the weekend. Some good, some not so good. Surprisingly my favourite all up was Flying Colors, a movie about a bottom-tier student who tries to get into a top-tier university. I wasn’t expecting much from it judging from the trailers/reviews because it didn’t sound that interesting but it was actually super good. All of the side characters have there own mini story arcs that are all wrapped up at the end, I liked it a lot. 100 Yen Love was also very good. With some luck they might release the DVDs here.

    I’ve also been playing a bit more of the new Fatal Frame too. Spooky! I like how the game throws unique ghosts at you that have different movesets relating to how the person died. Like (spoiler tagged a ghost type just in case. Nothing related to story or anything)
    the ghost of a woman who hanged herself comes at you by swaying side to side on a rope. You can aim at the rope to ‘cut’ her down and she’ll start using the rope around her neck kinda like a whip. Or a drowned ghost who floats around creating bubbles and when they attack you you get wet.

    It’s pretty cool in a horrible kinda way 😛

    EDIT: Also this

      • That’s Project Zero, right? Maiden of Blackwater?

        It does have a physical release, I think it’s even mostly limited editions possibly. At least, last I checked JB didn’t have a non-limited version listed. Was considering getting a copy myself, just for the sake of rounding out the Wii U collection a little more since people seem to like it.

      • There is actually a physical release!—Maiden-of-the-Black-Water-Wii-U I wish I’d known that before buying it on the eShop.

        It is a lot of fun (coming from someone who doesn’t like horror games :P), but you can tell it’s a pretty low budget, niche game. Voice acting isn’t great, walking controls are clunky, etc. So your mileage may vary! I like it. There’s a demo of the first two chapters in the eShop so you can give it a try.

          • *clears throat* The reason it’s called Project Zero is because the small group who were making the original were called Zero. It’s called Zero in Japan and Project Zero in Pal (because it was their project! Geddit?) but was changed to fatal frame in America. In fact, the Fatal frame ability didn’t even come in until the second game. It’s really freaking handy.

            Also, the voice acting has never been great (Mafuyu in Project Zero 1 comes to mind). The walking has always been slow. It’s to add to the tension. But I tend to run everywhere anyway.
            I’m up to eighth drop if I remember right.

            Sorry for the dribble

          • Yeah, I’ve come to like the slow walking. Really lets you get into the atmosphere of walking around a haunted place. Took a while to get used to but I sorta like it now.

          • Yeah, try the demo before dropping 80 bucks on it 😛 Just because I can see why it isn’t for everyone!

  • Secret SanTAY 2015

    I think once I finish organising you lot I qualify for my Cat Herding Scout Badge.

    What is this? It’s like your work Secret Santa except with people you like and respect even though they’ll still steal your lunches in a heartbeat and 5% less chance of getting a sex toy in the mail.

    How to join the festivities? Send me an email to binoter at the Hotmail with your mailing address and you shall get on the list. Not The List, that is @dc’s responsibility and god have mercy on you if you’re on that.

    Have a few people building up on the list but it works better the more we have so don’t be shy. If you’re a relative or completely new person you are highly encouraged to participate. I promise I won’t sign you up to too many amateur amputee midget bestial snuff porn mailing lists, just the ones I’ve signed everyone else up to as a way of bringing is closer as a community.

  • So I signed up to Stan over the weekend, for the sole reason of watching Ash vs. The Evil Dead.


    0 regrets. That show is absolutely freaking amazing. Sam Raimi is back on form – he was almost there with Drag Me To Hell, but I just felt it was missing something. Apparently that something was Bruce Campbell, who I have a serious heterosexual man-crush on. Evil Dead 2 is in my top 5 movies of all time, and I am enjoying this show just as much.

    • I didn’t even realise that was a TV series rather than a movie til quite recently.

      I think I need it. Bruce is boss, and it’s been far too long since I was watching Burn Notice 😛
      Also that reminds me I still haven’t gotten around to seeing My Name Is Bruce.

      • 10/10 would watch it. Seriously entertaining stuff.

        MNIB was surprisingly good. It’s lame and corny and somewhat predictable… which is exactly what you want from a Bruce Campbell movie.

    • Been watching it at a friends place and I’m pretty impressed by the way they handle comedy. They do that thing the Archer writers do where they know exactly when to back off the joke and take the genre seriously. Instead of having Ash fumble with the gun so we can laugh at him being a buffoon they have him kick some serious arse then have him act like a buffoon. I mean they really must have an insanely clear picture of what they want to make in order to walk such a fine line.

  • A quick tip for people playing Fallout 4: When you get to the town of Goodneighbor one of the shopkeepers is a lady ghoul who was alive pre-war, she mentions that there’s another pre-war ghoul living in the hotel if you wanted to talk to them. Do that. Seriously…

    • Spoilers

      What did you do with him? I sent him to Sanctuary. He was so sad when you first talk to him but he cheers up when you send him to Sanctuary which is nice.

      • Yeah I did much the same.

        I did say right at the start when he was being turned away that if I found his body, I’d wear his hat for the whole game as a tribute. Giving him a job running my Greygarden general trader seems even better.

  • Hi!

    First day back at work. Hmmm. Still all the email to read and noone seems to expect me to be doing anything other than reading emails and clearing my inbox for now so pretty happy.

  • Had a wall of text ready to gush about Pandora’s Tower, but jt it went away, so I’ll just say that it’s amazing, seriously amazing.

  • The topic of dopplegangers came up at bowling on Saturday. It’s much harder to show off my gay porn doppleganger now that my face is covered in hair 😛

    Also surprisingly hard to find any pictures of myself on my phone. Ended up having to go back to the start of last year, and use a reference shot I took for building the Shredder helmet so the others could see what I normally look like.

  • Anyone been following the crazy ARG that the Binding of Isaac has set off? People had to actually dig for a hidden statue o,0

  • TAY RPG Pathfinder tonight at 7:30pm AEST, 8pm ACDT, and 8:30pm AEDT. Starring:

    @redartifice @tech_knight @freezespreston @beeawwb

    Saying farewell to Izumi aka @negativezero who now resides in the Land of the Free, the party wakes up in Vinks after a fairly rambunctious evening and must find their next bout of adventure.

  • Old Man Freeze Reads The News

    Amber Heard did not show up for her court date over dog smuggling – Why the hell would she? Her attitude now is “Fuck Australia” and already said she’s never returning to the country so why return for a small magistrates hearing that would end in a small fine? Yet Joyce is huffing and puffing about it, does he not have anything better to do?

    Gamergate have managed to feature themselves in the Paris attacks by spreading photoshopped picture of one of their critics and claiming he was one of the attackers – *long drawn out sigh*

    France retaliates with biggest bombing raid they’ve ever conducted – ISIS deserve everything they get and more but when you stop and think of how many in the training camps and recruitment centres were dumb kids in a bad place or don’t know better it boils your piss even more. They hide behind civilians and throw out the vulnerable to die and how do you even effectively fight that? Aargh, everything they touch turns to shit and there’s no real solutions.

    Adam Hills has called for Pauline Hanson to be hung from the Sydney Harbour Bridge – Dafuq Adam.

    The Wiggles are doing a one off original members adults only show at a pub next year – Holy crap do I want to go to that.

    A kid featured in a Humans of New York post wanted to be a reporter like his dad and said his dream interview would be with the director of NASA and outlined the questions he’d ask. The director of NASA responded to him answering all his questions – Goddamn NASA can be amazing. They’re so accessible for kids and encouraging of their interests in science. Why can’t we have more of that?

      • I never want the Hansons and Bernardis of the world killed. Why create martyrs?

        I want them to be repudiated, humiliated, and them to live a long life filled with regret over the fact they spent so much time and energy being horrible and wrong.

        • I dont want them to do that either, i just want them to realize they are being callous bastards, apologize and help make other people who followed them into decent humans. Then they spend their remaining years with family being happy and smiling. Everyone deserves happiness. More happiness means less anger and i think the world needs less anger.

      • Usually he’s better than that. He would have known the double meaning, he’s a smart guy and I’m just surprised he decided to go for it.

        • I dunno, reading it I think it pretty likely there was a strong enough distinction between “hung” and “hanged” in his mind for it to not occur to him at all. I get like that all the time with my friend at work, I think of something and only see it from the one direction while he sees it from the opposite direction and neither of us has any idea what the other is talking about, even though we (eventually) figure out we’re talking about the same thing. Then suddenly it seems ridiculously obvious.

        • Considering it was on Twitter it could have just been a heat of the moment thing and he didn’t realise at the time. We all do that.

          Or it could be that he really did mean to lynch her and this is some impressive PR backpeddling 😛

          • I think it was meant to hint at that as a joke but it was a misfire. It happens. Guess I’m just a little surprised as I really do admire the guy and he’s usually so on point.

          • He really doesn’t have a mean bone in his body, I think it was an honest mistake. When I read it I didn’t think of lynching, but as soon as someone else mentioned it, I could see why people freaked out.

    • They’re so accessible for kids and encouraging of their interests in science. Why can’t we have more of that?

      Might have something to do with a recently ousted prime minister doing his best to return us to the dark ages? Who needs science when you have DAMES AND KNIGHTS!

    • Adam Hills has called for Pauline Hanson to be hung from the Sydney Harbour Bridge – Dafuq Adam.

      All of my what. I wish the public & especially the media (including people like Adam Hills )would just ignore that bitch. I’m sick of seeing her vile racist opinion in the media. It only makes her think we want to hear from her >_>

  • Woo, back at work today, after two weeks off – the first week was a lovely week at Fraser Island. Stayed up at Orchid Beach, around the headland from the top of 75 mile beach, so spent the time swimming in the lakes, driving around and generally relaxing. Even made the trek up to Sandy Cape, which was cool, tho didn’t have time to walk on the giant dune due to the tides. It’s amazing how much sand there was on the beach, tho – Ngkala Rocks was a flat beach, and the Maheno was nearly covered. Didn’t get to go to Kingfisher Bay or the southern tracks/Central Station, as it was too far to do in one day with the tides being what they were. The second week was spent nursing my sunburnt feet, which resulted in an inch-tall blister covering a full quarter of my foot by the time I finally made it back to Sydney on Tuesday.

    On the upside, I got to catch up on the newer releases I was annoyed about missing – got through the Legacy of the Void Campaign – and promptly got squashed in the second epilogue mission, because I haven’t played as Terran since the WoL campaign in 2010. Great conclusion to the story (yes, I’m one of the five people who only play Starcraft for the campaign). Protoss are pretty fun to play, too – some of the unit variants are interesting (Zealotos who revive after death, DTs that revive at the shrine on death, void rays whose beams arc to nearby units), but had a tonne of fun just beating most missions by spamming void rays. 😛

    Got about five hours into Fallout, and have mixed feelings – on the one hand, the intro to the minutemen was cool, but finding the prospect that everything is potentially useful means I fill my bags with random junk – at least in Skyrim I knew that a broom was useless. Will persist, tho – the bits that engaged me were pretty fun, and the story is compelling.

    Also lost Sunday to Anno 2205; it runs like arse – fluctuates wildly between 60 fps and 12…, but framerate isn’t super crucial in a city builder (or so I keep telling myself), and the different biome mechanics mix things up nicely – eg. The arctic region citizens have to be housed near production buildings because the factories generate heat which stops citizens from freezing to death. NPC quests tend to fall into about 4-5 types, which gets a bit old after a while, and the passive-aggressive NPC interruptions of my city-building telling me I should go blow things up with big boats are terrible. But the core gameplay is still mostly the same as 2070, so enjoying it anyway. Kinda like the whole “working on three maps at once” thing – makes it feel like I’m building a proper global corporation.

    • (yes, I’m one of the five people who only play Starcraft for the campaign)
      These days, it’s about five people who care about Starcraft for anything other than the campaign. Even at the height of SC2, most people played for the campaign. It’s a rather weird thing.

  • My copy of Fallout 4 arrived. Only thing is I imagine playing it will eat into my Rise of the Tomb Raider time, so I can’t decide whether I should finish Rise off first before jumping into Fallout or whether I should just alternate between the two games.

  • So Half Life 2: Lost Coast is selling for more than HL2, Ep 1, Ep 2 and Deathmatch combined.

    It’s a freaking playable tech demo. Why!?

  • Finished Seven Deadly Sins last night. Decided I loved it. Some rad and super creepy designs, action had some truly bad ass moments and managed to avoid a lot of the asshattery that a lot of anime I’ve seen devolves into. Super fun watch.

    Started on Knights of Sidonia, there’s some intriguing concepts there if a little obtusely presented but I fell asleep about 15 mins in so can’t really make a call on it yet.

    • I hated Sidonia the first time I tried it. That all CG thing is so stiff and offputting. Protip: the pink-haired girls that look like they’re all carbon copies of each other that confuse the shit out of everything are actually clones and you’re not meant to be able to tell them apart.

      If you can. track down the BD releases via the Jack Sparrow method. The final episode has about 10 mins extra and the broadcast version (which netflix has) has a lot of censored violence. Don’t get attached to anyone – people tend to die. It’s a very dark show and feels like something out of the late 90s, like Blue Gender or something. I found I really liked it when I gave it the time though.

      The manga is stunningly well drawn if that floats your boat.

      EDIT: Also the Sidonia opening theme is pretty awesome.

        • Everyone except the main character photosynthesizes yeah, but I don’t think they’re plants. I don’t know how it works though. A wizard must have done it.

  • Holy crap. My last half hour:
    *Installs updates for Windows, restarts*
    *installs November update for Windows, restarts to bluescreen*
    *tries automated fix – can’t fix, gets stuck in reboot loop*
    *tries cold boot – same problem*
    *tries rollback – rollback fails, reboots*
    *tries refresh – can’t refresh*
    *tries reset – can’t reset*
    *tries ‘prayer to the dark gods’*
    *Windows boots normally, no data loss, no observable issues, with a small notification saying it couldn’t install an update*

    Moral of the story – Nalar has amazing tech support.

  • Whee, Fallout 4 just crashed. I guess I should take the hint & stop playing.

    I’m mostly still just pilfering shit & hoarding crap to upgrade stuff lol. Cause why do any quests?

    I painted one of my many sets of power armour in a Vault-Tec theme, even gave it the Vault Boy headlamp, which is pretty rad, projects a Vault Boy where ever you shine it! Another set has hot rod flames, sadly it does not make it go faster =(

  • Soo I need some help from any TAYbies who are familiar with eBay.

    I made an offer like 8 days ago on GTX 660 graphics card I low-balled the guy quite a bit, & I then kept on searching across eBay until I came across the GTX 760 for an absolute steal (which arrived today) anyway I messaged the GTX660 bloke saying I didn’t want the card & not to accept my offer, his response was “too bad so sad, I accepted it now pay up, I don’t care what your excuse is.” I tried to reason with him, even offered to pay his listing fee or the postage & leave positive feedback, he totally ignored me & any further correspondence. He has now opened up an unpaid case against me, which honestly I think is unfair, so what can I do after he basically told me to get fucked.

    • From memory you don’t have to pay squat. You agreed to pay that much when you made the offer and it had an expiration date they’ll tell you that you should paid attention to, but you should still be able to cancel the sale. You might get some negative feedback status BS but if you’re buying/selling enough for your feedback to matter then one bad lot isn’t going to be a problem and if you’re not then it doesn’t really matter.

    • If he accepted within the offer period you have to pay.
      Don’t put offers in if you don’t intend to follow through. If it expired, then he wouldn’t be able to accept it. Your only thing would be to pay up and list the card for sale again.

  • Mick’s Awesome Long Weekend In Melbourne (MALWIM) Report:

    WARNING!!!!! Very long post incoming:

    Wednesday 11th: Flew to Melbourne, caught Skybus into city, and hotel shuttle to my hostel. Checked into my room, then head into the city, stupidly deciding to walk rather taking the tram. Wandered around aimlessly, had a look in Emporium, tried to find out where Mark Hunt was doing a signing but had no idea where. Wandered back to The Forum for the Darkness concert, had tea at the Nandos next to it. Run in to some people outside Nandos and get talking about the Darkness with them. Line up for the concert, end up about 5 or so rows back from the stage. Support act Apes are quite impressive, they’re on Spotify if you want to listen to them. Then The Darkness!!!!! Amazing set, 18 songs, including a good cover of Street Spirit by Radiohead, sellout crowd in full voice to the songs. Justin crowdsurfs with his guitar, just an amazing experience. Getting home after the concert is interesting, although I never felt worried.

    Thursday 12th: Wander into town, find out the UFC 193 open workouts are on at 11am, so that’s 3 hours taken care of. Hunt and Silva, Jedrzejczyk and Letourneau, and Rousey and Holm all do workouts. All different, and interviewed by Megan Olivi after their session. Buy a UFC hat ($35, but it’s a nice hat) at the merch tent set up in Fed Square to beat the lines at the event. Flies everywhere, after the workouts are finished, I head to South Bank and grab a gelato from Trampoline (amazing stuff, Salted Caramel and Banoffee Pie flavours). Walk back to hostel, spend the rest of the evening chilling at the bar watching the Socceroos thrash Kyrgyzstan.

    Friday 13th (OOOOHHHHH): Go to Harbourtown, find it’s extremely disappointing, although the Toyworld had the Combiner Wars Devastator (Want so much, no money to buy it, no way to get it home). Head to Etihad to meet up with @f4ction for lunch. Go to an Italian restaurant and I have pizza and chinotto, he has gnocchi and cider. Very pleasant time spent chatting with him and prince among men he is, he pays for my lunch. Head back to hostel to chill until I meet up with a friend from high school. (Was going to catch up with @tech_knight, but he had a work function. Catch you next time I’m in Melbourne Techie). Have tea at Schnitz, and then wander around for a bit, then decide to head to Crown. Getting off the tram, we meet up with my high school friend’s wife who is from Washington (state), and who I hadn’t met before. We spend an hour or so chatting in the Crown Food Court before it’s time to call it a night.

    Saturday 14th: Weigh ins!!!!! Get to Etihad at 8.00 to line up, get a really great seat with an awesome view of the stage, Bruce Buffer walks past literally 10 metres away. Weigh ins go well, Joanna and Valerie get in each others faces, but Ronda and Holly almost had their fight there and then. Hang out at the Fan Village for a few hours, listen to a live podcast hosted by Megan Olivi with Forrest Griffin, Ross Pearson and James Te Huna. Really interesting stuff. Met up with my friend Trent and stayed for the Dana White Q&A, in which at least half of the questions are requests to do stuff at UFC 193, mostly to meet Joanna or Ronda, some interesting questions though, particularly about the future of the UFC. Go to QVB for lunch, have Oporto, hang out with Trent for a while, then head back to hostel to get ready to meet with @tofu and @mad_danny. Except, there is a snafu, and this doesn’t happen. (Sorry guys, I am a terrible organiser, and I owe you a drink if we ever meet). So I go to see Spectre at Crown Cinemas VMAX. Not the best Bond, but still better than Quantum of Solace or Die Another Day.

    Sunday 15th: Decide I need a good breakfast, so head to a place recommended by a friend on Facebook, Hash Specialty Coffee Roasters. Have Pork Fritters Benedict, pulled pork marinated in cola and lemongrass made into fritters, with eggs benedict on top. Tastes amazing, as does the hot chocolate, 85% cocoa poured into a beaker filled with fairy floss, which dissolves into and sweetens the hot chocolate. Check it out, apparently their coffee is great as well, it’s in Hardware Street (off Lonsdale).

    UFC 193: Unbelievable event, won’t go on too much about it. Despite being in the third tier of the stadium, I have a really great view of the Octagon. Most of the crowd around me is pretty good, except for a couple of guys who get drunker and chant F. Off Home at Uriah Hall. After it I stay and watch the press conference which was interesting, Mark Hunt is a funny guy. Hang out with Trent a bit more and then go and get Mad Mex for tea.

    Today: Check out of my accommodation, head up to Elizabeth Street, go to Minotaur, JB, and Dymocks, finally find the MMA Store Hunt did his signing at, have lunch at Big Boy BBQ, which a few of you know. Best ribs and wings I’ve ever eaten, will be going there whenever I’m in Melbourne. Head back to hostel to pick up my luggage, then back to Southern Cross to catch the Skybus. Apart from a 25 minute delay due to paperwork problems, the flight was brilliant, clear skies and completely smooth.

    TLDR: Awesome trip to Melbourne, but glad to be home.

    • still made a fun evening of it despite our meet falling through – the weather was nice for walking around Southbank and after that I went home to watch my recently acquired BluRay version of Starship Troopers – Verhoeven’s classics tend to get really good HD remasters! (I already had Total Recall and RoboCop)

      • Glad you had a good day. Melbourne is a really good city for wandering around, there are plenty of places to sit if you get tired and sooooooo many options for eating and drinking. Good choice of movie too, completely different to the book, but very entertaining.

  • Suspicions grow over Dentist Girl. But also playing it down at baseless theories and paranoia. Wanted to confer with a friend, but of course this was the one week she didn’t show up 😛

    Still, now have @transientmind’s words echoing in my head, about lack of demonstrated interest being mistaken as lack of interest etc.

  • Oh my goodness.

    Yesterday I was dealing with a customer who wanted to unsubscribe, saying they were paying $15 a month and not getting anything for it. This was confusing from the get-go, since that’s not our monthly rate, but then the guy wasn’t showing up in our databases at all, so I was asking him for more information.

    Found a response just now, where he’s added the line from the credit card statement. How do I put it lightly that the part that says “” means it has nothing to do with us at all…

  • Playing Starcraft with Blaghs sure was something.

    It’s been a long, long time but the changes to initial workers means that I had to pay a lot of attention just to get my initial pylon down at the right time. I kept thinking it was due later.

    When I finally got the timing right, I missed my cybernetics core. Huzzah!

    Build or-wah?

    • All of my Wings of Liberty era build orders are worthless now. What am I supposed to do if I can’t do a cheeky pylon 4-gate?

      • 1 Gate expand into 6 Gate + Robo… nevermind.

        The one thing that annoys me about the co-op missions is the random assortment of units you get. I don’t think I had access to Colossus, so I just stuck on Gateway units for the first few games (and then went almost exclusively Phoenixes for the last because we’d already done that mission, so I wanted to do something derpy).

          • It has a mode called Allied Commanders where you’re dropped on a map and you have some sort of objective, but you also choose a hero, which will change what units and abilities and stuff you can use.

            Our first game we had to go across the map destroying crystals or something in a time limit, the second was essentially the train mission from WoL, and the third we had to stop shuttles from going through portals.

          • It’s more dynamic scenario co-op, where you get thrown onto a map together and you get certain tasks to do to defeat the AI. The campaign is still single player I think

          • It’s more that they’ve taken missions from the campaign and set it up for two players to do it instead of one. It’s separate from the campaign.

    • Being invited to the beta made me realise how privileged I was, being able to relearn the game’s economy changes months before most people would be able to. I like how fast the game starts now, once I got used to it, while I feel I still have time to react to what my opponent is doing and do a variety of opening builds. At the same time, I’m still experimenting with different timings and having a blast with that =)

      Add me on superhiero#6656 if you ever wanna co-op or archon or just have a good old fashioned skirmish!

  • So…. This stuff in France had me realizing I don’t know half as much about this organization as I should know given how much of an impact they’re having on an international scale. So I start reading up and now I’m more pissed off at the world than ever. Great. Moments like these I appreciate the mentality of the Comedian in the Watchmen.

      • It’s just a big joke though isn’t it? How Assad’s pretty much cultivated the organization and makes token efforts to push them back and the world’s military leaders do nothing to question the obvious collusion by convenience?

      • I dunno, I thought there was a certain irony in the way he comes across as a complete arsehat but once you know the full story, he’s still a complete arsehar, but he’s no longer the worst of the bunch.

        There’s a lot more to it than what you say, but I know you know that but I had to comment because INTERNET

        • If we’re talking about the comedian I have to agree; there was a lot more going on with him than just being an asshole for the lols. It’s like he appreciated everything was just a big joke once you stepped back far enough. And once he figured that out he wanted in on the joke.

          • It’s a dense work. Lots more going on than it seems at first.

            It’s a Damn shame US comics grabbed onto the grit & violence but discarded the brains.

            I e of the reasons I enjoyed it so .ugh, was that by the end,ceach character was so well thought that I could put myself in any of their shoes.

            I suffered from depression on leaving high school & one of the ways I keep it at bay is to keep my head deeply buried I fiction & ignore the finer details of the horrible thi vs that happen.

    • It seems appealing because he’s offering half an easy answer to a very hard and complex problem. It’s like when you see someone just ramming a couch into a doorway. They want brute force to work even though it won’t. It’s a trend that makes people easy to exploit. A politician stands up and boldly declares they’re going to be tough on terrorism, and even though it’s nothing but hot air and token military action it gets them all the support they want.

      • It’s also the blatant oversimplification of an underlying societal/political issue. No one asks why youth are being drawn to this organization. What causes people to risk their lives over an ideal that is inherently cruel and exclusive in nature. Politicians jump at the mic to treat the symptoms but as a society we have failed to treat the disease.

  • @powalen i think they still hold up well as you don’t need amazing graphics for these games. Also, if you are interested in the first Project Zero, play the xbox one. It came out later and had less bugs. If the graphics do concern you, watch the opening for the first and second games. (the third doesn’t have one from memory, but I could be wrong and 4 is emulator only)

      • If you’re going to revisit any game from the Project Zero / Fatal Frame series, it should be Project Zero II: Crimson Butterfly. Xbox version is the best one. The Wii remake wasn’t very well received I think.

        It’s a freaky as fuck game. I haven’t played V yet to see how it compares (my copy is in a shipping container right now with my Wii U) but II has incredible atmosphere and the plot is a classic. You play the entire time as the one character, a teenage girl who’s searching for her twin sister after the two get trapped in a haunted village. I never finished it. Too fucking scary. There’s something distinctly scarier about playing as a frightened kid rather than an adult even though mechanically it’s the same. It’s rad though.

          • I liked some of the stuff they did for the remake. But yeah, I own them all and I’m happy to lend them out. 3 should be played after 1 and 2 but other then that, order doesn’t matter.

          • Don’t have an Xbox 360? The Xbox release was backward compatible and pretty much ran flawlessly on 360.

  • I’m at 34 hours in Fallout 4 & surprisingly not bored.
    I’ve enjoyed Bethesda’s games since oblivion but I usually take a break and come back later.

    I dropped more than 70 hours into Skyrim but that was bits & peices here & there over a few years.

    Fallout 4 has cracked whatever ‘it’ is that keeps me entertained. Certainly not the greatest game I’ve ever played, but it’s keeping me interested.

  • I’m now worried about my neighbour and my dog. I got home late last night after taking my dog somewhere. When I opened my car door my dog immediately jumped out and bolted for his cat. Chased it around the house and woke him up. It’s not the first time this has happened, now I’m worried about how he’s going to react to this.

        • Yeah, and I want to slap those people upside the head.
          They run around killing native wildlife, shit in other people’s yards, get into fights on your roof at 1am and apparently that’s ok cause “it’s a cat”.
          And then if they get hurt it’s everyone else fault.
          F-you, (not you personally) if I let my dog run loose like that it’d be a whole nother tune and he’d do less damage.

        • …and responsible people keep them in at night.

          Only one of our three goes out at all, and he’s an old old man who is very set in his ways. He has to (HAS TO) go out for his evening Check Of The Perimeter straight after dinner. One lap of the garden, some pointed staring under the gate, and he’s back in 10 minutes, satisfied at a job well done.

  • Gauging interest for a team of players for Vermintide? I’ve been itching for some co-op multiplayer and this game requires sufficient co-ordination at later levels and difficulties it’s almost akin to raiding. Was thinking about running a group for 1-2 hours over the weekend? Hit some loot; talk some trash; kill some stuff!

    Let me know if peeps are interested and we can look at suitable times?

  • I really need to upgrade my storage in my computer (games being as big as they are lately) and once again I’m staring down a nice big SSD…but it’s still really hard to justify $500ish for a 1TB SSD compared to a 3TB HDD for literally half that. Even with the performance difference it just doesn’t seem worth getting a large SSD yet (at least, not for my bank account).

    • While I’m here I should consider getting a closed loop CPU water cooler and maybe a new graphics card and-…oh look, down the rabbit hole I go again.

      • I was considering getting a closed-loop cooler when I built my current system… but people much more knowledgeable on the topic told me that a good air cooler is still more efficient than a closed loop, and if you’re going to go with liquid cooling you may as well build a loop around your whole pc.

        • Yeah, but for a house where keeping ambient temperature down is a struggle (like mine) even a closed loop on the CPU can make a substantial difference to overall system temperature.

          If I did have the money spare I would get a total system setup, or at least cover the graphics card too…but there’s a pretty big gap between the two choices 😛

  • @tech_knight @coldcamv @tigerion if you want to bowl at my birthday instead of laser tag, the option is there, just let me know.
    Tigs, is Mrs Tigs coming? Is she okay to have cake?

  • 3DS!!! I have one now. It is blue. It is XL. It came with an Adventure Time game. I have registered it with a Nintendo ID thingummy, that is the same as my name here.


    Pokemon – where to start on 3DS? X/Y, or Ruby/Sapphire? So confused.

    Meanwhile, I am looking at this article here, and liking the idea of playing some adventure games (I finally got round to Broken Age on the Vita while I was travelling)…

    • Usual suggestion for Pokemon newcomers is just get the latest game, which would be OR/AS (but it really doesn’t matter. Just go for whichever you like the look of)

    • I had a week away from the internets (in theory – no Optus coverage) and my regular gaming devices, so I took my 3DS. I had planned to finish Link’s Cricket Adventure and maybe start playing Dragon Quest IX… discovered there was Telstra coverage up there, so spent more time stealing my family’s wireless to play Hearthstone. My poor 3DS can’t catch a break…

      • Have you played the new adventure? It’s pretty great. I was vehemently free-to-play only, but then got drunk and bought it (and Naxx)…. I’m a terrible person.

        • I started it last night, in a fit of curiosity. Beat the first two bosses – some really cool mechanics, some pretty clever writing, and generally a lot of fun (even when I was losing :P). Really looking forward to what the next wings bring. I only play the adventures, tho, and the only packs I’ve bought have been with the 300 gold I got from some “play X games” achievement while I was on holiday the week before last 😛 Still haven’t beaten the last boss in Blackrock – not sure I’ve got the cards to be able to do it with any degree of reliability.

    • Eh, Ace Attorney is an okay adventure game series but I feel like you’d want to have played all the DS ones before the 3DS one. The platform’s not rife with adventure games really.

      Do you like oldschool wizardy-style Dungeon Crawlers? Because 3DS has Etrian Odyssey IV as well as the Untold remakes of I & II which are all excellent like that. Massive time sinks but worth it. There’s also Persona Q as well, which is a Persona 3/4 and Etrian Odyssey mashup (Etrian Odyssey is ‘Seijaku no Meikyuu’ in Japanese, stylized ‘MeiQ’, thus Persona + MeiQ = PersonaQ)

      Fire Emblem’s probably the best game on the platform. Upcoming semi-sequel Fire Emblem Fates is looking to be really good as well, though I’ve noticed the buzz out of Japan around it wasn’t quite as loud as it was for Awakening.

      Bravely Default’s great if you were ever into SNES or PS1-era FF games, but it kind of loses steam in the back half. Beautiful game though.

      Speaking of FF, if you like that series, you need Theatrhythm Curtain Call. Don’t bother with the original.

      Luigi’s Mansion is fun for a while but I found it gets repetitive and kind of hard, plus it has very oldschool punitive mechanics, i.e. no checkpointing, you die you start the level from scratch.

  • @redartifice
    Quick question – Tokens – Are these something you’re meant to print yourself, do they come in packs, or is ebay generally the best place to get them?
    The ones on ebay – I’ve noticed some variances in artwork – is this because people are making them themselves, or are they official and just from different sets?

    • General response: Tokens can be anything you want them to be as long as everybody knows what they are representing. Which is why people make / print their own. Especially in a deck that has lots of different token elements, it’s easy to identify and play with them.

      Some tokens were officially printed and available in promo stuff, you can find them at some card shops, but not every available token type has an official card.

      Boy I hope you’re asking about MTG.

      • Thanks buddy! Really appreciate it!
        Yep – talking about Magic.
        Played for the first time at PAX and really starting to get into it now as a fun little game.

        Played against my brother-in-law the weekend before last and he spawned 2 5/5 demons in the space of a couple of turns – we used forks to represent them haha.

        So basically, the ones on ebays are likely to be DIY ones that people have printed? I can deal with that… I’d prefer to have something that is easily identifyable (and tappable)

        • Played for the first time at PAX and really starting to get into it now as a fun little game.

          It’s been nice knowing you. 😛

          Edit: And yeah, some of those on eBay might be DIY ones, you may as well just do them yourself. Get some card sleeves and take a land or common you’re not using as the “back” and then slip in a printout that you made yourself. Boom. Easy.

          You can even do your entire deck that way so you’re not playing with valuable cards. As long as you’ve got the originals on hand for verification.

          • Cheers – really helpful.

            And it’s ok – it won’t be that bad – big red has given me some tips to ensure it doesn’t become a money sink (not that i can afford it to, anyway).

            I’m more worried about conques or x-wingt eating all my money.

    • There are tokens printed in packs, but you certainly don’t need any official tokens. Print them, use dice, write them on a bit of paper. I wouldn’t spend a cent on them.

      Over time you’ll accumulate anyway.

    • If you’re not playing any morph/manifest then a facedown card is pretty useful. Empty sleeves were my go to choice for tokens when I played.

      Forks seem perfectly acceptable though.

    • Back when I played I had a bunch of different colored round glass stones that I’d use for different things. The kind you can buy for a few dollars at bunnings or similar that are used to line a vase or something. Also different colored multi-sided dice are useful for counters.

      For creatures what I would do usually would be to grab cards from outside my deck (my deck would be sleeved and they’d be unsleeved to avoid any weirdness, but I’d also usually use something that clearly didn’t belong, like a swamp when playing blue/white) and place it face-down so the back of the card was upright, then put a colored token on it. Without that, if you’ve summoned a creature token then it wasn’t obvious whether it was tapped or not and stuff and that could be quite important.

  • BirthTAY drinks – I’ll be in the Mitre Tavern on Friday night to celebrate my b’day (from around 6pm). Melbourne TAYbies, especially those I met at PAX, welcome to stop in if convenient. Usual spot is at the back of the alley/beer garden. The front part of the pub is very very busy if the weather’s good, so the trick is duck in through the front door on Bank Place, head through to the back bar by going straight through the arch under the stairs, and then pop out of the back door by the back bar. 🙂

    @beavwa @budgieishere @chuloopa @coldcamv @crazyguy1990 @f4ction @greenius @jordi @mad_danny @negativezero @pixel_the_ferret_viking @scree @smurfydog @tech_knight @tigerion @tofu @zetrox2k

    I know at least one of you has trouble with fridays, so look forward to catching up another time if you can’t make it. 🙂

    Otherwise, I will attempt to make a Meat soon…

  • My brother is asking me to borrow money again because he had to pay Melbourne International Comedy Festival rego.

    You lot better go see him at the MICF is all I’m saying.

  • Finally got around to seeing The Martian this afternoon. OH MAN SO GOOD.

    Also these space movies have been doing a number on me lately. After Interstellar, all I wanted to do was go home and fly among the stars in Elite. Now we’ve had The Martian, and just around the corner the beta for Elite’s planetary landings expansion is gonna open up, something like next week or the week after.

    MY HYPE IS THROUGH THE ROOF! Gimme dat buggy.

    • Only thing I really had issue with was that they never once talked about radiation. One of Mars’ big issues is that it doesn’t have a strong magnetic field, which means he should have been exposed to dangerous solar radiation on the surface. It’s one of the reasons Mars doesn’t have much atmosphere – been basically scoured away by solar wind.

      Really loved that film though. I’m holding out hope that one day the tide will turn back again and there will be enough interest in space travel that they can justify giving NASA a proper budget again.

      • He was never exposed to it thought, right? I mean, it’s not like he was running around on the surface without a suit on, he’s always either in a suit (which presumably has radiation shielding) or indoors (which definitely has radiation shielding). I mean, I’m no scientist.. or smart… or even remotely intelligent… but seems legit?

          • Hang on… I’m assuming it works like sunlight, so as long as you aren’t directly exposed to it then you should be fine? Or is the whole surface of Mars radioactive?

          • The vast majority of the radiation that an astronaut will be exposed to is cosmic radiation from deep space, and solar radiation. Both contain high-energy particles that can cause damage at an atomic level to anything they pass through.

            Our atmosphere and magnetosphere protect us from the worst of it, but it still effects us. Spend too much time in the sun with the wrong genetics and you will die early from Melanoma. There is no atmosphere in mars, and no magnetosphere. Any small exposure to the background radiation would kill you, and cancers would be rampant in any population that managed to live there.

            NASA factsheet:
            Recent Catalyst episode discussing NASA and MarsOne projects:

      • The crew in the ship would probably have had mad radiation issues too. They basically doubled their space time, and their return to Mars likely took them inside Venus’s orbit and there’s no way their ship would have protected them from everything. Also, it didn’t really touch on how low Mars’s gravity is. Though that’s me nitpicking.

  • @fled @grandmasterb-funk @liondrive @phlanispo @phoenix @platinum-urchin @thecracks

    Perthians, assemble! I am planning a new and improved Adventure World meat! My initial plans a month ago fell through because everyone was busy with uni, and apparently two weeks isn’t enough notice.

    My new plans are to have a meat on the weekend of 4th/6th December. This will either be on a Saturday or Sunday, and will change based on what is best for everyone. I specifically chose this date because I know everyone will be on their uni break by then. I hope 18 days is enough notice, but you never know.

    Adventure World has a thing going one where you can get ~$40 tickets if you pre-purchase them. So if you plan to come, pre-purchase and save some money.

    • Hey wish i could go but i will have work both those day or be busy with the daughters T-Ball game on Saturday and work sunday. Once again i am sorry but i will have to give it a miss.

  • Anyone still playing Game of Thrones (Telltale)? The final chapter dropped today.

    ARRRRRGH, I’m pretty sure I got the worst possible ending. Yay me!

    I lost the war, got Mira dismissed and killed, left Gared with half an army to defend the North Grove, and although I managed to save Ryon, that decision seems to have gotten EVERYONE ELSE dead.

    I’m terrible at the Game of Thrones.

    The special stats at the end were BOSS, though. Loved that presentation.

  • Oh man. Chanced upon someone’s stream who I recognised from playing Elite’s CQC the other night, found I’d ended up on the recording they’d made when testing out the new ships in the beta. Now caught up watching all the matches from the opposite point of view, which is pretty great.

    Particularly the part where they get pissed off at me and start cursing my name 😛

      • There were some pretty choice lines in there. Got “he is just picking up bullshit!” a few times, since I often use items to facilitate my escape. “He is trying to be clever”, as I try and evade her by flying into a tunnel. “And failing” as she followed me in there. Then literally the next moment I’ve flown past her and she’s lost me 😛 Mostly because I fluffed the entrance and crashed into the tunnel, giving myself an unintended-but-totally-helpful u-turn >.>

        We got caught in a lot of jousting matches, which usually ended in ramming. But one time she was hiding in a tunnel trying to recharge shields, and I boosted in and got the ram on my way through. “How did he even see me??” I ended up turned around because of it, while she was stuck in a spin, so I was open to finish her off.

        I truly knew I’d made it though in one match where she told the rest of her team to stick together, don’t stray apart, and the moment they see me, focus attacks on me. Awwyeah 😛


    … it’s called Valkyria of the Azure Revolution (direct translation) rather than Valkyria of the Battlefield… \o/

    … they’ve ditched the watercolor style. /o\ But now they’ve gone for a really bold, vibrant style that’s meant to look like an oil painting. \o/

    … it’s a completely new world, not the one from the previous games so they can start fresh \o/

    … That whole dieselpunky WW2 style is gone, it’s a fantasy game now. People still have guns though. Also some people can turn into tanks. Wait, what? /o\

    … it’s now an RPG. /o\

    … it’s an action RPG. /o\

    … it’s realtime, not turn-based or anything. /o\

    … you only control one character and the rest are AI /o\

    I don’t know how to feel about this game 🙁 It sounds really good and I’m up for anything Valkyria… but this isn’t what I wanted from a new Valkyria Chronicles game. The hybrid RPG/RTS battle system in that was the best part. Sounds like it should be its own franchise and not have the Valkyria name attached which is clearly only there for marketing purposes.

    Fucking Sega being druids again. Maintaining the balance by making sure every good thing they do is balanced with something shit. 🙁

    Oh yeah, they’re porting VC to PS4 as well so if you didn’t play it on PS3 and didn’t pick up the excellent Steam release you’ve got even less excuse.


    • From what I read they said they’re splitting VC into two types, and they still intend to make more traditional ones , so at least we can look forward to that in 2033 when they get around to it. As a mobile title.

      • I haven’t read anything to that effect anywhere. They’re porting the original game to PS4 as well, maybe that’s what was meant?

          • So that’s not quite the same thing.

            The VC games so far were ‘Valkyrie of the Battlefield” (Senjo no Valkyria). This one is “Valkyrie of the Revolution” (Kakumei no Valkyria). It’s different so they’ve ‘split’ the Valkyria franchise by using different naming conventions.

            RPGSite’s the only place I’ve seen anything suggesting the ‘classic’ side is going to be continued. I suspect that the PS4 port of VC is their idea of continuing to support it. Happy to have Sega prove me wrong though!

    • Oh before anyone accuses me of hating on Valkyria: it’s one of my favourite games ever and it was one of the core reasons I bought a PS3 originally – took one look at a video of the opening video and knew I had to own it.

  • So now i’ve got my internet running smoothly, i’ve finally had the stupid authenticator removed from my blizzard account so i could access it again.
    Installed SC2 (which didn’t work prior to my upgrade to windows 10 but now does), hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm.. it appears I have a lot of catching up to do.

    Also picking up a new card game this week – kittens in a blender… Can. Not. Wait.
    the name alone is amazing.

    • Did it come out before or after Exploding Kittens? Because if it’s after, sounds like they’re just trying to ride the hype train.

      How long have you been out of Hearthstone for? The new expansion is boss, the discover mechanic is amazing, and we’re suddenly back in a control meta (thank god) thanks to one of the new legendaries

          • It’s a little “take that” card game. Bit too simple for my taste, but probably OK with mates and beer. Throw cards in the box, move others around, do it fast and loose and it’ll be fine

            My views may be tempered because I played it with someone who sat there with AP over his fucking cards for waaaaaaaay too long. JUST THROW A KITTEN IN THE FUCKING BLENDER FFS

  • Morning peeps! Question time, anyone had any experience with Elgato game capture device? (preferably the HD60 Pro)

    Got one coming today and im curious about recording party chat… i figured i could output chat audio to speaker interface meaning party chat will be captured through the HDMI interface, but that wouldnt capture my mic audio… would it be that difficult to sync if i setup a seperate mic through the pc and get the capture software to also capture my line in?

    • A mate of mine has the Elgato game capture HD (as well as the Avermedia Live Gamer Portable which is what I have) and we spent months working on audio problems so we could record clean gameplay audio and clean chat audio. We were going for more of an edited experience so the following might not be that relevant if you’re not wanting to edit much.

      The ultimate solution we hit upon for small scale coop gaming was using skype for chat and buying a desktop mixer like the Behringer Xenyx 502 and feeding the audio from the 2 sources into that for output to headphones. Depending on the system you’re using and who you’re playing with, skype might not be a viable option. I seem to recall that the PS4 party chat can be set to go to headphones only and I imagine the same can be done with the XBox One (it worked with the 360 so I doubt they’d dump it), you could get a headset adapter such as this one, add a y splitter to both the mic and headphone jacks and run cables to a PC to record both sides of the conversation with something like mixpad. I prefer mixpad since its free and can record separate tracks from multiple inputs so you get both incoming and outgoing audio recorded cleanly and separately. In order to synch it with the vision, I ended up realising we could just open the menu, scroll through the entries and call out the option that we’re highlighting (eg; saying “Save, map, online” etc just as we highlighted them), that gave a nice and clear way to synch the game video and the chat audio, since both the incoming and outgoing chat were recorded simultaneously they were the exactly same length so when you got one synched the other was at most only a few ms out.

      I’m pretty sure that the elgato software has the option to record commentary as either a separate MP3 or as part of the video so if you’re just after something simple like taping PS4 games with randoms and not having any editing, you should be able to use that headset adapter and one y splitter to run the mic audio into both the console and the elgato itself, leave the party chat to output to speakers, you’ll get that through the phones and your mic will go to 2 places, one for transmission & the other for recording.

      It’s also possible that being a newer device, the new Elgato might just have something like the adapter cable with it specifically for recording and chat

  • @powalen
    How did you feel about Ren’s eighth drop chapter?
    I like the break in the monotony, but man, was Fuyuhi a pain in the butt to fight in Yuri’s tiny, tiny room.

    • I liked it! Though I wish it was scarier than it ended up being 😛 Thought there was going to be some really tense bits with having to keep an eye on the surveillance while taking time to clear ghosst but oh well (like seeing a ghost behind you on the surveillance and then have it grab you or something before you can react)

      By the way, did you fight the Tall Woman a couple of chapters ago? She was the scariest ghost so far 😛

  • Dropped my youngest off to a Prep orientation day. She gets to her new classroom and sits down with a bunch of other kids playing with playdoh. Of course, Lilah being Lilah she doesn’t start making flowers or hearts like the other girls. Nooooo, she has to start making people then using scissors to cut off the limbs and head while giggling to herself. Way to make a first impression.

    • I took my 2.5 year old in, and she pointed to a baby that was on the floor being changed, and said “I don’t like those”
      “Don’t like what, babies?”

      “Why not”

      “Because they might eat me”
      “I won’t let it eat you”

      “We should eat it first”

      Cue the carers all giving us a worried, worried look.

  • Suffering Melbourne withdrawal symptoms at the moment. So dang bored, and I feel like I have nothing to do. I’ve tried playing games but they’re not doing anything for me at the moment, and there’s nothing worth watching on tv. Blergh.

    • I think you need a hobby, a subject of interest that can absorb your interest for hours, and not just one hobby, you need a few, for instance, I love my electronics stuff i do at home but i can get annoyed with it if i have had a particularly stressful day at work, so i listen to new albums and i have a notepad where i rate the songs and make playlists, if i dont feel up to doing that i have a pile of books on my kindle and if thats too much brainwork i just go to crunchyroll and whip out the list @negativezero makes about whats worth watching and make my way through that. I find alot of joy in all those things.

      Have you considered studying online? Doesnt have to be a actual course or anything sometimes just reading some non fiction about history or technology really makes me happy. Maybe that could inspire you to find a new passion?

      • Speaking of that, right now I have to use the cable internets provided to me in my temp place which means I’m not really comfortable Sailing the Seven Seas (if you know what I mean) so I have to stream my anime legit.

        Which sucks dicks.

        You guys don’t realize how good you have it with AnimeLab. About 80% of the stuff this season is on there.

        Here in the US, Crunchyroll has about 5 or 6 of the shows I was regularly watching. I had to subscribe to Funimation’s streaming bullshit to get at another three or so, and then I have to go to Daisuki to get One Punch Man. CR is great but the other two are shit. 🙁 And even then, there’s a couple shows that were fansub-only that I’ve had to drop.

        As a result I’ve hardly watched anything the last couple weeks 🙁

        • This sounds completely absurd and counter intuitive… Can you VPN back to Australia (see… absurd) to get AnimeLab’s streams?

        • When in Australia, spend all my time finding VPN services to get me to the US.

          Once in the US, spend all my time finding VPN services to get me back to Australia.

          Kind of funny really.

          A lot of the issue is that I don’t have my PS4 so I have to use those services’ woefully bad web interfaces.

      • I’m still looking at doing a barista course, particularly now I have a proper coffee machine. Hoping I can learn skills for a job, rather than just a hobby. I think my main problem yesterday was coming down from the high of the trip and returning to real life.

      • Been reading guides, HUH?

        I’ve been playing blind, nice suprise when you do find something cool.

        I watched a vid on raising happiness in a settlement though. If (& this is a big if) I get every other trophy (seems to be a missable bobble head & a story split?) then I’ll try to make a happy village.

        Atm I’ve done very minor building & modding, because I wanted the perks that made shootin easier.

        • I’m doing the whole thing blind, but it’d be nice to finish that bobblehead collection at some point. I hope there aren’t any that can get locked off.

          • My collection stands at a lofty total of 1 thus far, could be a while before I get to that one.

            Still, first thing I needed to build was the stand. That was the central pride and joy (alongside the nuka cola fridge) in my fallout 3 house.

          • I haven’t built anything that wasn’t quest related & I let settlements get invaded because screw those guys.

            I think I have 3 Bobble Heads, 2 stats & a perk. Or was it one star & two perks? I dunno.

          • I don’t think any are locked off, but I only had a quick glance. I do like that there’s a logic behind placement of a lot of the magazines and stuff (I’ve found 3 sneaking ones in army bases), so if I was talking notes I’d probably be able to get a lot sans guide.

        • Not a guide, just a post on the Fallout 4 reddit. Was looking for information on either how to make a settlement that doesn’t suck, or how to mod the radio.

          • I’ve found each group seems to hand you some nice stuff as well as perks (not perk perks but like perks like irl like perks like)

          • It took me absolutely forever to find a decent guide the explained how settlements work and how best to wire electricity into houses without spending a fortune on switches! I now have one fully-lit home out of 3 in sanctuary =D

          • From what I’ve seen the cheapest way to light up houses internally is to use what the game calls “connectors”. You can put them on the side of a wall and it provides electricity for a good chunk of that wall (about 3x the range of switches). For example taking your home in Sanctuary to give power to one wall would take 2 connectors maybe 3 depending on how you spaced them.

            So I put connectors across the whole house on the outside and connect them up with wires from a nearby generator. Once done I can place fans/lights/tvs etc internally and they all use just 1 power and I have a fully lit house =]. P.S. Poles are a complete waste of copper; it’s cheaper to just build another small generator to connect houses and if you want to connect it to a beacon or turret its still cheaper to create a generator near where you want the turrets and then wire them from the generator directly.

    • I’m the exact opposite! I keep making my way to a quest and get side-tracked by the first point of interest I run into along the way! Bright side it means I’m clearing quest dungeons before I get the quest but downside it means I’m clearing quest dungeons before I get the quest!! [email protected]

      • Yeah, I did that a bit in Skyrim, so I try to knock over the story stuff first. The world’s big enough that even when I follow markers I still feel like I’m exploring.

  • At the gym, got a new pair of earbud headphones to replace my broken ones, and I’m going to have lunch in 90 minutes. 🙂

  • Knocked RYSE off the steam pile of shame.

    Wasn’t great but by no means bad. Enjoyed it.

    But from a historical sense talk about butchering history. Nero had no sons, Boudhica never stepped foot in Europe let alone Rome with elephants….

      • I actually learnt quite a lot playing Civ 2. At some point my parents acknowledged that I was going to keep playing video games for a stupid amount of time, so they insisted I had to read all the historical notes whenever you build a new unit/building/wonder/etc.

        • Someone in my class managed to convince the teacher to let us install Age of Empires 2 on the class PC thanks to its surprisingly in depth notes (and we were studying the middle ages at the time).

          • I managed to surprise my English teacher in middle school when they asked ‘who knows the word for when you kill a king’ and I knew it was Regicide. Thank you, AoE2!!!

          • “And so England managed to successfully siege the castle with a large convoy of blue cars that fire an endless supply of bullets”
            *teacher gives a “…really…?” kind of look*

          • Pshhh, we all know you beat castles by firing arrows at them until they set on fire.

            (Really though, the best way was to play as the Spanish and use their OP workers to take down buildings)

  • …… I have too many games to play D=

    I’ve been juggling Fallout 4, SC2, Vermintide, HotS for the past few days. Goddamit where were all these games a year ago when there was nothing to play!? =P

    @techknight on that note up for some HotS tonight?

    • Splatoon, Smash, and Guitar Hero that I want to keep up with, Xenoblade that I’m trying to get back to, Elite Dangerous that needs more love, then Wooly Yoshi and Kirby Candy Curse that haven’t been touched yet. And considering picking up Project Zero and Rodea Sky Soldier, with Xenoblade X on the horizon.

      Then that’s not even going into 3DS where I still haven’t touched Rhythm Thief, Kirby, Codename Steam, Tri Force Heroes or Chibi Robo yet. Or Shovel Knight, though I’m likely to crack that one out tomorrow.


      • I want to keep going in Guitar Hero but having to choose to either have someone with a shit taste in music pick all the songs I play or get a loud booming voice that says “YOU CAN PLAY THIS SONG BUT YOU ONLY HAVE 15 CHANCES LEFT TO DO THIS”. Unsurprisingly, this ruins it for me.

      • ….. Gods I still haven’t finished Fire Emblem Awakening which I bought a few months back… I’m doomed. I’ll never play and finish all the awesome games D=

        And bloodborne, the old blood, arkham knight and CoD are also sitting on my pile of shame…. I’m never going to catch upppp!!!! D=

    • I have way too many games. Then @Scree and I started talking about Hyperule warriors and now I want to play that again. I ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY GAEMS!

    • *Grabs the list*
      Fallout 4
      Need For Speed
      Elder Scrolls Online
      Dragon Ball Xenoverse
      Disgaea 4
      Assassins Creed 2
      World of Warships
      Divinity Original Sin
      Project X-zone

      Must knock off a chunk of those before Cathryn will let me get Rainbow Six Siege or any other games.

  • Fallout 4 settlement stuff:
    I’ve been trying to figure out how to get more settlers into my towns and ended up looking online last night to find out what I was doing wrong. Turns out the answer was literally nothing…people just weren’t showing up.
    Cut to an IRL hour later and with no changes one of my sites has gone from 3 people to 11 but no other town has had growth. So, I shipped a bunch of them to other sites…and the same town grew back up to 8 in like 20 minutes.
    Screw it, this works.

    • What nob’s said I noticed that the beacon would sometimes just stop attracting people so try turning it off and on again. Also your settlements have a population cap which is 10 + your characters Charisma. So if you have 5 Charisma the max number of settlers is 15 per settlement. Companions count towards this cap as well.

      • As a stab in the dark I’ve been power cycling the beacon (can you tell I work in IT?) and hasn’t seemed to have done much.
        I didn’t know about the CHA max (makes sense though) but mine is at 6 so even my largest place so far is only at 11 including 4 companions. Still room for more!

        • Also I noticed if I had other beacons closer to the centre of the map my far away beacons like Sanctuary stopped attracting settlers; worth only having one beacon on perhaps?

          • I was curious if beacons had a defined radius from where they can attract settlers (seeing as the actual radio broadcast does) but the one that’s getting tonnes of people is is near the edge of the map and one that’s in the middle (and near a bunch of stuff) has only attracted 1 person.
            Could definitely be a problem with having multiple beacons on at once. I’ll try turning off a bunch and see if people turn up to the still active ones.

      • I’ve been meaning to test out how temporary SPECIAL boosts work in a bunch of ways, and whether that lets you bypass the cap and then go back down is definitely one I’d like to check.

  • I am unreasonably excited for these controller parts I ordered. Have two PS4 controllers in a sorry state and was going to order one of those Darth Vader ones until a random curiosity pushed me to look at repair parts. came across a site ( and holy crap they have a lot of different parts. Ordered some blue and red metal sticks and buttons. If they turn up in a timely manner and are decent quality I have a plan to go completely nuts and essentially rebuild a completely custom controller. They even will make faceplates to whatever design you want and have triggers, sticks and buttons that have LEDs in them.

    Blow all my bonuses!