Last week Kotaku broke news that Sony is in the process of working on a PlayStation 4.5. A more powerful console designed in preparation for 4k resolutions.
Here’s a question: would you buy it?
In the wake of this news the response, as far as I can see, has been mostly negative. No company has ever really tried to sell consumers on an upgraded version of existing console hardware like this. It essentially requires buying a whole new console. Details are scant on how this whole thing will work, but it does feel a little strange and my instincts are telling me it’s a bad idea.
That said — we live in a different time. People upgrade their phone on an annual basis — why not consoles?
What are your thoughts?
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137 responses to “Tell Us Dammit: Would You Buy A PS4.5?”
I use my PS4 everyday. I get value out of it. So yes I would buy an upgraded model (providing its a tangible upgrade)
This is the same for me. If it is a tangible upgrade then I’m likely to get it.
As well, will upgrade if it’s a legitimate improvement, means i will also have easy lan setup at home to game with the missus or when mates come over
Yah me too. I don’t want 4k but I do want better framerates. If it can do that then I will completely consider it.
It wont be powerful enough to bump 30fps games up to 60fps unless they lower some graphics sliders. Whats more likely is they bump up the sliders and keep them at 30fps.
Same here, I’m always using mine…but then again, I’m assuming the main difference would be the resolution the games run at, not the games themselves. You’d buy the same game disk, but the game would detect whether you had a PS4 or PS4.5 and choose the resolution accordingly. If that’s the case, then I wouldn’t bother since I have no interest in getting at 4K TV at this stage.
Yes, but that’s only because I don’t have a PS4 (or any current gen console) so it would be a good purchase for me.
I’m in the same boat as you, buddy
Last-gen buddy high-five, woo! o/
me too, haha. I welcome the best version to get as my first new gen console.
It would depend on how much more power it had vs. how much it would cost.
If I bought a standard PS4 (I had one but I didn’t pay for it & it was stolen when my house was broken in to) ID be suuuuuuper pissed though.
I have a Wii U and don’t even have enough time for that. Netflix just dumped so much good content. So No, I would not buy a PS4.5
I’d honestly be incredibly surprised if this was a genuine 4K-capable console. I’m willing to bet it’s more like “4K Blu Ray/streaming enabled”.
When the current PS4 can barely crack 1080/60fps (hell, 1080p/30fps), the step to 4K is massive. PC-wise, to play modern games at 4K and an acceptable framrate, you’re seriously looking at something like a 980 minimum. Preferably a 980Ti. That’s an $1100 GPU alone.
Disclaimer: own both a high-end gaming PC and a PS4. Love them both.
According to the original article, video is already possible and games are the target:
True, but everything is still rumour at this stage. I’d be incredibly surprised if Sony were working on a 4K gaming capable console, unless they plan for it to cost $2000.
If it is 4K gaming though, then to answer the question I’d probably buy it.
EDIT: My main concern, if it is a 4K gaming upgrade, is what happens to users of the original PS4? Will devs make a pretty version for the 4.5 and a scaled down one for PS4? Will they bother? How will traditional console players handle the (until now) PC-centric upgrade cycle? Consoles have generally been a “plug and play, buy the next one in 6 years time and don’t worry about graphics settings, parity, etc” affair.
I guess my point was more that it is already apparently “4K Blu Ray/streaming enabled”. Completely realise that anything beyond that is speculation.
Ah, gotcha. My understanding is neither MS or Sony have updated their consoles to HDMI 2.0 (which is required for 4K playback) but I could be wrong.
I think it’s less about 4k and more that they realized the PS4 isn’t nearly powerful enough to push enough pixels fast enough for PSVR to be close to parity with HTC Vive or Oculus Rift. Pumping up PS4 would allow them to be viable for porting games for the PC VR systems to console.
Sony knew the current ps4 was not powerful enough for VR and high resolutions. their plan was to get people buy a second console from the beginning.
They are doing this because they know most people are gullible enough to buy a new console, they are turning into apple. Exploitation is highly profitable.
Can’t play 4K anything as they are not HDMI 2.0. The console is easily powerful enough for 4K video just can’t output it. Also the bluray drive won’t be able to read the new 4k Bluray movie discs.
PS4 actually supports 4K for video streaming and bluray playback already. Just not for games.
Maybe it can stream 4K cause that’s just data over the net but 4k Bluray nope and once again you need HDMI2.0 to output 4k vid to a screen/tv.
“During the recent interview, 4Gamer brings up the topic of Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray, and asks the Executive Vice President about Sony Computer Entertainment’s thoughts on the subject, and whether we’ll have some sort of compatibility with it in this era of the PlayStation 4. “The Blu-ray disc drive that is currently installed in the PS4 is made exclusively for the Blu-ray disc player, so it cannot read the 3-layer media that is standardized by Ultra HD Blu-ray,” says Ito. “For this reason, the PlayStation 4 models that are out in the market cannot be compatible with Ultra HD Blu-ray.”
Software / Firmware issues mainly. It’s capable of doing it, they just haven’t bothered. Definitely supports 4k streaming and displaying 4k photos.
980 ti under 700. youre an idiot.
Show me where in Australia you can pick up a 980Ti for under $700 AUD. Ti, not 980.
The cheapest on PCCG is an EVGA for $999. MWave’s cheapest is a Gigabyte for $1049. And those are two of generally the cheapest Australian retailers for PC parts.
Seriously, show me where I can buy a 980Ti for under $700 AUSTRALIAN, because I’ll buy it in a heartbeat.
No, Newegg etc don’t count unless you can get it here officially without using mail forwarding. Please include sales taxes, exchange rate and delivery too.
Also, no need to be a dick.
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487223&cm_re=980ti-_-14-487-223-_-Product
Under $900AUD ..haha but no, no where has it under $700..
Daaaaaaamn, that’s really good. I’d be tempted if I wasn’t waiting for Pascal. Thanks for the heads up though!
(still no “under $700” though haha)
I always wonder about people that say they’re “Waiting for tomorrow’s thing.” These companies always announce the next few iterations in advance, do you just never buy anything? When do you decide it’s the right time to say “Fuck waiting, I’ll just have to buy today’s thing”.
Normally I’d agree with you (hence why I bought a 780Ti at a time when the Maxwell 900-series launch was well known to be coming soon).
But Pascal is meant to be a genuinely larger jump from the 900-series than the 900-series was over the 700s. HBM on the flagship, etc etc. Whereas Maxwell was for the most part an efficiency gain.
Plus, an upgrade every two years is easier to stomach on the wallet than an annual one!
HBM won’t be on the new Pascal unfortunately. It will have GDDR5x.
HBM2 is not ready for mass production and nVidia don’t want HBM1 and its 4gig limit. If Pascal is weeks away than go for it.
TBH even a 980ti is going to struggle with stuff. It’s a big step up like you said.
Yup, that was exactly my point! Hell, I still see benchmarks of some games where SLI 980Ti is required before you start seeing 60fps 4K at anything other than potato graphics settings.
It’s just such an absolutely absurd increase in processing power. It’s 4(!) times the pixels of 1080.
So hey, look. If Sony somehow do this and at a mass market-ish price point, I’ll be first in line. I just wouldn’t hold my breath when current $2.5K PCs struggle with it.
It’s not true 4K. Its upscaled 4K. It will likely render games at 1080p.
my thoughts exactly..
4k? theyre barely doing 1080 at the moment..
i think this is a good idea though, something thats crossed my mind before. having tiers to current consoles.
those that want to shell out the big $$ for the improved graphics can, where as those that dont arent forced to – just like it is with PC. of course, the current advantage consoles have is the fact that it’s easy to optimise games due to the single hardware configuration, but im sure if microsoft/sony makes a second one it wouldn’t deviate too much from the base version.
I totally agree. Although your thinking of the price of a titan x. All the same though cuz you need two 980ti to run 4k acceptably. No way will a 500 dollar box run 4k res at even 30 fps let alone 60. I think as someone said is right…it will stream 4k content and be able to push 90-120 fps in psvr @ 1080p.
You’ve completely ignored much of the history of the industry if you can say nobody’s really done this before.
I didn’t want to touch an Xbox 360 until they upgraded it so Red Ring of Death wasn’t a bloody feature anymore. That was in 2010.
Not to mention the countless iterations on portable handheld consoles between each new product launch.
Yes on the face of things, I’d get one of these. It’s always about ‘one’ game. Always.
The first game I thought a PS4 was worth a damn to actually buy was Bloodborne. I got it about a year ago. Apart from maybe two other games, I’ve not gone near the thing. I have an affinity towards playing Souls-ish games with a Playstation controller myself, so yes I’ve got DS3 pre-ordered.
And you completely ignored the fact that’s it more about nobody having released a significantly more powerful console (if the rumours are to be believed) for their SAME generation of games.
Hardware fixes like the red ring 360’s are not in any way, shape or form on the same level as this would be.
Sorry, sorry.
In future, I will stop ignoring facts about rumours.
Stop ignoring context to suit yourself while you’re at it.
NEVER ignore a FACT about a RUMOUR.
Wait. What????
You know I never actually said that, right?
The fact is the discussion being had is in regards to a more powerful system. The fact is that said discussion is very much not about general hardware revisions/fixes that he was using as examples of “Oh it’s been done before, you don’t know what you’re talking about!”
The fact said discussion is based on rumours still isn’t me saying or even implying, “Never ignore facts about a rumour!”. I only even mentioned them because that’s where the whole discussion, that is actually happening and is therefore a fact, stems from.
But then he pulled it out of context for his own snarky remark because he clearly had nothing better to say, and now here we are… You repeating something I never actually said, and me overusing and bolding the word fact simply because I can.
Ummm. I was just kidding around. Soz.
But…
NEVER IGNORE A FACT ABOUT A RUMOUR. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! 😛
Isn’t that what the 3DS did with the “new 3DS”? Sure,they added a couple of extra buttons, but considering the number of games that actually use them, it’s essentially just a faster version of the old 3DS with a better screen and a more refined 3D mechanism.
Handhelds, more specifically Nintendo, have always been known for this sort of thing though… Admittedly I could have differentiated handhelds as I was simply referring to the primary home consoles.
Since even the original Gameboy days they’ve been releasing hardware reconfigurations and such, but it was still largely the same console for the generation barring a few notable exceptions which bridged some gaps.
Add to that, Nintendo had the memory expansion pack for the N64, and in Japan the N64DD would be comparable to a PS4.5
This type of things has been going on for ages.
Oh, I’d buy a ps4.5
If Sony had the balls to downgrade the PS3’s hardware early on in the console’s lifecycle, what’s to stop them upgrading the ps4’s?
Form factor changes happen all the time and while there are often slight benefits in terms of power and a little better performance, it’s not the same as upgrading from an i5 to an i7, or upgrading your video card. The PS4.5 is not just about the introduction of 4K support, it’s also about significant GPU performance upgrades which is where the problem lies.
You are right though, this isn’t the first instance of this. The New 3DS is most likely the first and look how well that’s working out.
They actually solved that in 2009 (RRoD) I had a phat model bought in that year and it never Red Ringed, last year though I replaced it with an E-Model because the power brick kept overheating and I was over the disc tray getting stuck!
You need to expand your gaming mind my friend… The Division is your friend. 🙂
I would. I dont even find it to be that bad of an idea.
Upgrade, get better visuals.
Don’t upgrade, get the same great games.
Win/win really.
Right up until developers start promising “Oh it works fine on older consoles!” and then flat out don’t deliver.
It’s actually already happening – developers saying “it runs fine on consoles” despite many games regularly dropping below 15fps at times. AC:Unity was a really beautiful slideshow on PS4. The Division regularly drops frames on PS4, and not just because of server lag. Dark Souls 3 is getting some bad press on Xbox for running terribly, tho that’s barely/not-yet (depending on your philosophical bent) released, and so probably has a performance patch pending. Long forgotten is the promise of the new consoles bringing 1080p60 gaming.
Hilarious to think that PC gamers were worried about lazy ports, when it seems like its the consoles who are getting the short end of the stick this generation. I’d buy the new PS4.5 if developers continued “targeting” the old specs, so I could get acceptable performance.
I agree. Just look at the debacle with Hyrule Warriors: Legends and the old 3DS vs New 3DS issues it has, virtually unplayable on the old hardware. I foresee this only working (and granted we know so little about it at this stage), if all games worked on original PS4, and got a slight upgrade in performance on PS4K. Otherwise it’s another Sega CD.
I was hoping for equality by them making PC ports better not making console versions worse.
That’s a good point. Target the old specs. I don’t want to upgrade to keep getting 30fps. I want to upgrade to get 60fps + consistently.
In fact, I wish they’d DECREASE the gfx settings on PS4 games so I COULD get a better framerate. I hate the chop. #HATE THE CHOP.
If it offers a noticeably better experience for exclusive games then I will buy it. If it comes in a bundle with PSVR then I will buy it. If some older PS4 games are patched to take advantage of the added horsepower for smother framerates, like Bloodborne, then I will buy it.
If it just upresses and outputs to 4k (i.e. if it’s a glorified PS4 slim) then I will pass.
If this was always on the cards (which you would assume with companies like Sony and MS it was) why didn’t they just design the consoles in modular fashion, with up-gradable parts ie. GPU, CPU, memory etc.
I would find it easier to swallow if I were just thinking about upgrading one specific “module” for $X to fit my needs as opposed to the full cost of a console replacement, and I think a large majority of the userbase(s) would also.
And it would be alot easier to get past my Wife who I can imagine would just say “You already have one, why are you buying another?” which is a fair comment considering that a purchase like this ($$ wise) deserves to be discussed beforehand, assuming you have a SO or Parent etc.
And I know this is getting into PC territory – but it isn’t the exact same thing, it is somewhere in the middle.
A solution like this would allow iterated expansion of performance for the consoles without forcing people to re-buy at full cost a system that already sits next to their TV.
Just my thoughts anyway, I could be way off in my assumption of how the wider community would react to a design like this.
This is a much better way to approach the situation i think, especialy since i dont really want to buy another ps4. The only problem i can see is when newer games can only be run with the upgrades. The main reason for me getting a console is the ease of plug and play!
I was going to buy a ps4, but I’ll probably just wait now.
It really depends what the upgraded PS4 is. Without details it’s impossible to say.
If it was just an upgrade to 4K display? Not a chance. If it was a significant upgrade to graphics? I’m tempted. Are there games I’ll only be able to play on the PS4.5? Then most likely yes.
Havnt seen negativity so i dont know where u are getting that from.
I would as long as they offer a trade in deal with the old model (obviously must happen?) and it does away with them stupid touch sensitive buttons that make discs eject randomly.
(even after a replacement console and not having anything touching the edges of the console!)
No, for the same reason I’m not buying a New 3DS, there’s just no justification for it yet. I’m really worried at the implications of it too. If it were just 4K support then there wouldn’t be any issue, but the improved GPU performance means that all those PC specific performance problems consoles were shielded from (due to different CPUs, GPUs, etc.) will now start to plague consoles too. We’ve already seen it with Hyrule Warriors on 3DS so the precedent is there.
I’d buy it but I’d hope that it was every 3 years, minimum, not every one or two years.
Agreed. And that means the timing for this is just about right. If it releases in November or later, it will be 3yrs since launch of the current gen consoles. Time flies. Feels like much less time has passed since these consoles launched.
I don’t have a 4K TV so I don’t need one, but if the new console suddenly becomes a requirement for future games then I won’t be happy.
Perhaps this should have been a poll?
Would I buy a PS4K? Yes.
I’d buy one.
Even though I’ve barely used my PS4…
Where’s the real incentive to buy though… Sony have barely released any exclusives this generation.
I saw a comment the other day that roughly said “my six hundred dollar Bloodborne machine, is going to end up being a six hundred dollar Blodborne machine”.
Most people have $600 FIFA machines, so it isn’t too uncommon.
Not enough information out about what the 4.5 actually is to make a decision.
I wouldn’t buy an amended console that is basically an afterthought. I’ll keep with my PS4 and buy a 4K console when the next generation comes out.
So if you dont have a 4K TV is there any point?
There aren’t any details out, so this is obviously all speculation, but I could theoretically see games running at 60fps on the 4.5 and 30fps on the 4 due to the increased processing power.
I don’t have a 4k TV, so no.
I’m happy to wait until the PS5 before I need to start worrying about 4k support for anything.
Now that MS has finally realised their “every console is a dev kit” I probably won’t be buying any PS product again. Unless Sony follows suit, though given the way they bailed on the “PlayStation Suite” before it was released and turned it into the abortive “PlayStation Mobile” I’m sceptical about that ever happening.
“No company has ever really tried to sell consumers on an upgraded version of existing console hardware like this. ”
New 3DS told me to tell you it says ‘Hey’.
GameBoy Colour is cranky ’cause no-one ever gave a crap about him.
I feel a bit cheated by this, especially after recently buying a PS4. You better believe that upcoming, more demanding titles are going to be superior on the new console. if they have some sort of upgrade plan, where you can trade in your old console, then I would consider it. If they are going to make it a thing where consoles get refreshed every two years, it would work out cheaper to buy a powerful PC for your living room, which can last you up to six years (my i5-2500k still works beautifully) essentially nullifying one of the biggest reasons people choose a console.
You shouldn’t feel cheated, as you have every right to upgrade to the new console when it comes out (circa 2017 by reports), and enjoy your PS4 in the meantime.
As far as trade-in program goes, I’m sure there’ll be a trade-in offer at EB / JB hifi, but as in most cases the value you get from the trade in will be stacked in their favour. That’s just the nature of buying tech.
As for the reason to choose a console, I think for most people it’s the plug and play aspect more than the no upgrades side of things. Besides, unless there are PS4k exclusives, you don’t really have to upgrade at all.
Hey Charlie, thanks for the reply. I understand what you’re saying, but when I read this: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1202462
I can’t help but feel disappointed in my ps4 purchase. I was kind of under the impression that I wasn’t going to have to upgrade for some time. I don’t feel like I have got my money’s worth with my ps4 as yet. I don’t want to have to accept hobbled performance because the made their machine with terrible specs to begin with.
Yeah, fair enough. I do see your point. I suppose consoles were one of the last bastions of the multi-year lifecycles in tech compared to phones, PCs, etc so I can definitely understand the frustrations.
As you mentioned, hopefully there will be an upgrade program from Sony to reward their ‘early adopters’ with an easy path to purchase for the PS4K.
Why do I think of the Sega 32X when I read this article.
Maybe, would probably depend on the price and how different it actually is from the current PS4.
I use my PS4 a lot (not as much as my PC but way more than any other console) so I wouldn’t be against updating it but at the same time, I don’t even have a 4k TV yet so not sure it would be worth it.
Also NX is possibly going to be out this year too and I really doubt I can afford 2 new consoles any time soon so need to see how that turns out as well.
No; I have a ps4 and it gets used more for netflix than games these days; with the bulk of my time on PC. I dont see the logic behind paying for an upgrade if I can still play the few exclusives on the base model.
No way man, it was a big enough deal for me to buy a PS4 as it was!
I mean I love my PS4 but there is 5 people in our household and dad (me) is usually the last on the disposable income list.
This whole PS4.5 rubbish is a bit annoying to be honest, i finally have enough money to get a PS4 and now i am stuck waiting for them to officially announce price and release dates for this instead as i don’t want to buy the old one only to find out it is one of those deals where certain games wont play on the old tech (like the new 3ds)
Yeah as others have said since I haven’t bought in to the latest gen consoles yet I probably would.
If it provide a major performance boost for future titles + PSVR, yes I will upgrade it. Coming from a PC guy that upgrades his PC often, I feel completely normal if I was given the option to upgrade.
Considering the value I’ve already gotten out of my PS4, and the ability to trade in my current console, I would be super keen for a graphical upgrade—especially if it can improve the frame rates of pre-PS4K games. Console trade-ins are rarely an option because of limited backwards compatibility.
Assuming it’s a meaningful upgrade, and I can drop the HDD from my current PS4 into the new one, sure.
Cloud saves make me more likely to consider it than I ever would have been.
Reading your comment just made me have a flash of rage with Nintendo for how shitty their online functionality is.
What is the point of having a Nintendo ID if you lose your Saves, Friends and purchases when you change to another 3DS!
Their ‘current gen’ seems to be permanently locked a good 5-10yrs behind everyone else in more ways than one.
You can do a system transfer and lose nothing!
The problem is that the previous 3DS was dead. I am pretty sure both things need to be functional at the same time for this to work?
It would be nice if I could backup to Nintendo say once I had all my friends added then if I connect a new 3DS to that account I can at least restore what I had as of my last backup.
Also as a portable system it is more likely to be stolen as you often bring it out and about.
If Sony can make it run cooler & quieter, sure. I’d be fine if they had a bigger housing with better cooling, be a worthwhile trade off.
Yes!
I almost have to buy a new hard drive for mine as it is, that’s already like, half the cost.
Id drop a grand on it, I doubt it would be cheap or out anytime soon.. sounds more like a ps5, what makes it 4.5? If it launched in a year or two the ps4 would be 4-5 years old, not every console cycle is 7-9 years. Although it would be a dream come true 4k seems a bit out of reach.. possible tech breakthrough kept secret? What about 1440 p? Is there 2k? Is that 2k? Can the ps4.5 be gray like the original?
Why would you? Buy a PC.
I like my PS4 but the thing can barely run 1080p and 30fps and now they think they can reach 4k? lol.
Yep.
There’s no way this thing is going to consistently hit 4k at acceptable frame rates and a mass-market price.
I’ll stick to my PC being the beast in the house because I will have control over what is in it, and what performance I get from it.
I’d consider it if I had a 4K TV but I don’t so I won’t.
My answer is no. I’ve simply been underwhelmed by the PS4 to the point at which I’ve just abandoned it to being a Netflix box.
I’m starting to think those “PC Master Race” folks have been right all this time. I’m not convinced I’ll need to buy a console ever again and I’ll just throw some money to a PC rig instead.
I already have a 4K TV, so I’m interested to see how it pans out, I have both consoles currently and haven’t turned my ps4 on in about 6 months, its actually at my Mrs apt now as a Netflix device. But if it was a massive upgrade for a decent price I may consider it as I’m always looking for new 4K content…. just found Fireplace: 4K Crackling wood on Netflix….AND Birchwood Edition!!!
If this is going to be for “better” games, or games get “better support” or w/e I’m going to feel massively fucking cheated.
I don’t have a 4K TV and no plans to buy one any time soon, so no. And even if I did, I feel like the upgrade isn’t important enough to rebuy. Maybe if I’d bought a PS4 at the beginning of the console cycle I’d be more tempted to drop the cash a second time, but I only just got it a couple of months ago.
I don’t own a ps4 but my brainstrust of friends had spoken about this when the rumours first started.
On one hand it’s not the 90’s/00’s anymore, tech increases at incredibly fast rates. If you spend 2-3 years building a console, by the time it ships it’s already “current” hardware. Fast forward a year and it’s borderline “old stuff”.
On one hand consumers don’t want to/shouldn’t be forced to buy a whole new console every 2-3 years, but on the other hand when a 2 year old console is started to look dated, that’s also a shitty look for it.
There’s the argument of “devs can squeeze juice out of technology, they just can’t be bothered so they throw horsepower at it”. You know what, that’s essentially true and you know why? We’re not making frogger or pacman anymore…. Imagine trying to build something as complex as Skyrim or GTAV. The entire task is already SO huge and takes years and years that it’s unfeasible to sit there and code pinch. They obviously do things along the way and use best practices but you can’t compare the genius of what retro programmers were doing back in the day to today. We even did see better games coming at the tail end of Xbox, PS2 etc etc but as things grow exponentially so does the code.
Shelling out $500-$800 every 2 years is “ok”, but would be better with a trade in system.
The idea of a modular based console is also “ok”, but if you start breaking down the parts then you’re essentially just gutting/rebuilding a pc (granted, on console it would be like lego and not dealing with actual hardware).
For me personally, I’m willing to buy a console for $500-800 and keep it upto date for another $200-300 every 2 years, for me it seems worth it. I don’t know what the best solution is to make this happen but that’s what I’m willing to part with.
There’s also the issue of fragmentation when you have different userbases running different hardware, that’s generally the advantage of consoles…. it’s the same unit, we know what it will do. When you start dealing with hardware upgrades, in some way shape or form you’ll have to get users onto the latest tech, or leave them with the ability to just play what was available when they purchased…. definitely a lot to consider.
We also came to the agreement that the PS 4.5 will definitely be upgraded with the main focus being “for a better VR experience”, it wont gloat about gaming because it will piss off too many existing users and will be horrendous PR.
Not sure if the current PS4’s can handle 4k output for Blu-Ray, but this definitely will. If upgraded outputs are needed for the latest HDMI then this will support it bla bla bla, basically just Ready for 4k content and “best experience” for VR. Definitely won’t be able to handle 4k gaming at 60fps, they might have a few teaser titles ala Wii Sports, but not across the library of games.
Given I don’t own one ATM then yes probably when I get around to it but if I owned a PS4 I wouldn’t be hung up on upgrading
I’ve only had my PS4 for about a year, I’m not gonna go out and buy another one anytime soon.
I have a new 4K TV at home and a launch PS4, but I won’t be wasting my money. This “PS4K” seems like it’s going to bolster PSVR, which I also couldn’t give a damn about.
I called this as soon as they announced x86 architecture years ago! Makes sense instead of changing to a whole new echosystem just release an upgraded version of the console that can run the same games and future games just at higher res with better settings like a pc does. The old consoles will still be able to play them just at lower settings. Maybe a few exclusives down the track for just thw more powerful console but yeah i think its a smart idea. The ppl that font care about graphics and framerate can opt for the cheaper version (original console). I can’t be stuck console gaming like this for another 5 years if its gonna end up like the last console spell
Perhaps…..are they willing to offer a *trade-up* program that wouldnt screw us over?
Although I dont have a 4k TV – its on the cards *one-day*…..having the console would help.
Though the 3 minutes I get for playing each month really really wouldnt justify it…. (until Red Dead Redemption #2!!!).
instead of this ps4.5 4k BS Sony should concentrate on the os and add the features that ppl have been wanting from day 1 and open cross-network with xblive and if it comes to be that i cant play the newer games (btw i dont care about VR or 4k) because i dont have a ps4k or whatever the hell its called i’ll be pissed im fine with the current hardware of the ps4 1080p is just fine for me and i’ve had my ps4 since launch and still works like new and just upgraded to 2TB and already invested a lot of time and money into it, now if they make certain features greyed out on the newer ps4k games but still have the same performance that ps4 games already have at 1080p similar to PCs settings thats fine for all the hardcore “graphics whores” out there, and VR is cool and all but im satisfied with a TV screen and i dont plan on getting a 4k tv anytime soon because if you dont have a 4k TV what good is a 4k ps4 gonna be? And they’re not exactly widespread yet and i’ve seen 4k TVs in person and in my opinion its not that much of a leap to me as it was going from 480i/480p to 1080p to me i dont think its worth it i barely see a difference between 4k and 1080p wheras from 480 to 1080 at first glance i noticed a HUGE difference, but my point being i know tech is evolving at a very fast rate too fast i lost track, bottom line interesting gameplay and having fun with friends is A LOT more fun than staring at a game paying more attention to the graphics than the damn game itself! damn it sony dont fragment your userbase that could be their downfall, they should’ve remembered that’s what happened to sega when the genesis was awesome and then came out with them stupid add-ons which caused sega to go downhill from there j/s.
If it was a significant upgrade, I would be very tempted. By that point my PS4 will be 3 years old, that’s long enough in these fast moving days to have between refreshes. I also reckon Microsoft will announce an Xbox One VR at E3 that you can plug an Oculus Rift into!! That’s my rumour started!
I was just about to say the same thing. I think Microsoft will have to jump on the bandwagon due to how much hype VR is generating at the moment. As I haven’t heard about them creating their own VR headset, they surely would have to partner with someone. I’d imagine it would be Oculus if they do.
If this is a genuine 4K machine that’s going to run without any issues and not be obsolete in 2 – 3 years it’s going to cost at least $2000. So if it’s a genuine 4K console I’ll be buying it, and remember this not everyone has a 4K screen, so these will only sell in a minority, not a very smart business move.
I don’t own a PS4 currently, and I don’t think I’d buy one either. I would, however, buy a PS4K, IF (big if), it had UHD Blu-ray support. I’m currently running a PS3 for my blu ray player, that along with it’s media playback capabilities makes it really good. I see no reason to upgrade to a PS4 for media playback, it doesn’t really add enough for the price tag. Adding a UHD Blu-ray though, that’s appealing.
I was under the impression that the current PS4 console was getting a firmware update to make it 4K capable? Where did I see this information? Tell me I didn’t dream it.
nope.
Don’t have a 4K TV connected to my PS4 (and don’t intend to any time soon) so probs not.
I replied with this earlier, but I think it is worth reading, I Found this on reddit, it has a bit more info:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1202462
I must say I am not happy that my PS4 is being superseded already.
If the red dead sequel only comes to console then i guess i will be picking one up.
Yes i would buy it and about 10 of my friends will be to if it comes out. People always complain about this upgrade but i think its the best possible thing that sony can do and its such a smart idea. There is such a huge base of supporters who want this upgrade cause it will make games better an able the ps vr to be more powerful
If it’s just to play 4k, then Nah, absolutely no point me buying one
Hell yes I would upgrade IV got the original ps4 now I play it all the time but I always think is this it ! It’s not a big enough leap from ps3 sure uncharted looks bullshit but I want all games looking like that first trailer of watch dogs all the way back then.like why not it’s there !
If it runs Final Fantasy XV better I’m sold.
I mean I’m an xbone guy so not applicable but anyway how would it work for games that need the 4.5 just to play, what’s the point of the 4 then? If the games looked amazing and there was a killer app it’d be like awesome but also fuck you Sony for making me need a whole new god damn console.
Mixed feelings but pretty much against it.
Anyone remember N64’s memory expansion cartridges? Game Boy Colour? New 3DS?
Prediction: this is gonna lead to games that only work on the new system.
I would definitely get the 4.5/k. But first i need to get a 4k tv.
Although my PS4 doesn’t get much use at the moment, I’m sure I will buy the PS4.5 or PS4K or whatever it becomes. I’m wondering if instead of releasing an updated console, they sell an external GPU type thing, like what you can plug into a laptop to beef up the graphics without having to buy a new machine. This would be much cheaper than an entirely new console, because it would be treated as an accessory and anyone can upgrade without having to trade their old PS4 in.
I play my ps4 everyday I have spent enough time on the system for what I’ve put into it. If you look at it as a dollar a hour I’m on like 30 cents a hour including games price added in. Trust me I’ve played enough to have made my money’s worth on the system. I plan on buying it ass long as there is a hardware improvment. It doesn’t have to be 4k it would cost to much and I have a 4k tv waiting for it. The problem is 4k is at least 4-5x more powerful then what we have curently. If pc spec standard if it could do 3k it would enhance the graphic raw Power and allow us to have 60fps that will be more then enough. Should only cost 500ish if you want 4k your looking at least 2000 for a low end struggling with 30fps hardware. We can wait till mid next gen if they want to do another mid gen hardware improvment. So that people can a ford to buy things at a good rate so people don’t get piss ed off because there’s 2 models. Plus lots of people feel ok with cutingarms and legs off every year to get the newest cell phone. If gaming wants tho continue it must adapted to the times. Yes I would buy it and the next one. Be just better if they made them self upgradeable instead.
On principal, no.
I’m happy with my PS4 and if this is just about 4K and VR, and won’t otherwise affect my gaming, I really couldn’t justify spending money on another one. I’ll be fine waiting for the next generation of console and VR gaming entertainment.
FUCK NO, no what brainless, spineless, conforming son of bitch would buy a console upgrade after the new gen was released…. you trying to put a sign on your back that says take my money? Fucking consumers…. never knowing when they are getting anal and loving it! Xbx one is backwards with 360 games and now sony realizes they fucked up and wanna release a console with 4k capablities and make games exclusive to their 4k system leaving the ps4 in the dust to be the biggest marketing mistake in history. The people that do upgrade to this so called “Ps5” will be more upset than the people that do not. 4k games are a dream some will pop up but even the claim to upscale the past game made is a complete lie. Some will be yes, most no…. and most big titles and devs wont even consider it due to the fact 1080 is hard enough to get right.. Devs are smarter than sony and wont leap to this next console so the game library will be non existent for this ps5 and what little games it will have will heavily depend on VR. Some Ps4 back catalog will be present but thats about it not much of the ps4 library will cross over. Probably can rent it thought justlike ps now another huge mistake on sonys part just showing they were outsmarted again by microsoft who found a way to emulate 360 games. Sony is losing alot of creditably I wouldnt be surprised if Microsoft won the next console war. They seem to have a better understaning at this time of what gamers want even if their console is a leap behind the ps4 and a bit quirky with its user interface hardly user friendly in comparison to the ps4s which is very simple and basic. Some morons will upgrade without a doubt! But majority of the people will roll their eyes and watch the price drop and still wont purchase it due to the fact its not much of an upgrade the overall return isnt that great for the price , it could be replaced again in a month with another upgrade many will weigh the risks vs return and see it wont add up and will stick with their good old faithful ps4 and use the money wisely on a HD upgrade so they can play more games. Be wise and save the money sony would take from you to pawn their junk ps5 off on you and go get and HD upgrade! Better Advice and will save you the headache in the future when the ps5 is burning down homes and losing money because of faulty hardware and lack of games.
People seem to think that this PS4.5 is going to allow 4k gaming on the console. Probably because they’ve taken what every news outlet is saying as gospel.
Let’s be real, this means 4k res on everything except games. Now i doubt that’s enough to convince anyone to upgrade. 4K TV adoption is still low, and adopting it just to watch movies on your ps4.5 instead of your TV makes little sense.
So unless they’ve got some more features hidden away, this seems like a very strange decision.
New 3DS anyone? Also yes I would. I’d move my current PS4 into bedroom and pick up that sweet sweet new hardware. Hope we see this at E3 😀
“In the wake of this news the response, as far as I can see, has been mostly negative.”
Lets all get angry over the console that hasn’t even been finalised and released yet?? Also People forget the PS3 Slim? or the newer Xbox360s. All have various upgrades to improve the console experience. (albeit minor compared to what the new PS4.5 is supposedly touting…)
Hmm.Upgrading phones against consoles annually .Sounds like apples and oranges.besides developers havent maked satisfied amount of good games yet especially exculisives aNd a New console will make the things more complex. HERE is thé question wich platform will be the master Race? 4.5 or 4? For me ıf 4.5 Comes ı wil close my 20 years of ps page and continue with pc.
If a new PlayStation came out, i would sell the PS4 i own and just upgrade the computer. Sony is riding the tech wave. They just have people following the damn tech news of a small console yet put out bad PS Plus games, dumb ideas with ice cones for VR and hope people will do the same they did and buy into the greatness hype.
The Playstation 4 is a 1080p system with some games running 30 fps, if the GPU of this new system is 2 times the specs of the first how do people even think it can run 4k? To who ever started this lie about a home console running 4k is just trying to make gaming news to sell ads for web-traffic. I think this console is just an update 14nm APU with being able to change parts of the chip before being put in the console. 4k streaming of netflix and hulu is what i’m thinking this console can do.
Just build a home media computer and stop this whole bull of Sony and Microsoft charging for net access that you already pay for from your cable company.
I think that with the pace of technological advancements, as well as the time it takes to develop a console, 3-4 years in between is reasonable. If they maintain backwards capability for each predecessor then your getting eight years worth of games anyway.
So, i’m one of the early adopter of console game. I use to have a PC but i just sold it last year for some reason (yea..yea..PC mater race *whatever*)
I don’t have a 4K TV or monitor, and i’m not planning to buy one, but i have an HD TV. I’ve saved my money for too long before i decided to buy a PS 4……and then the dilemma happens with this PS 4K crap.
So the question is, should i buy PS 4 or just wait for the PS 4K to come out?
Ooooooor…..wait for the PS 4K release, and buy the old PS 4 system with a cheaper price (considering the price itself will get lower after the 4K release)