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  • Good morning.
    Had to help my brother put some fenceposts in at his new place on Saturday, and I think I’m still feeling it today.
    On the plus side, I have been playing a bit more Elite:Dangerous, and I had to re-learn how to activate the Frame Shift Drive.

    • Saw trailer for Arrival. Another mathematician plus language specialist selected for alien interaction…not one capable of understanding that letters is just numbers allocated to give a numerical value to meaning. Conversation is numbers…and given a string forms from division of A by B and produces a string of numbers of infinite length, recuring cycle, or one off limited sequence depending on A and B they have no idea. Theoretically there are infinite length words.

  • Mornin’

    Had the cops searching the area last night with Pol Air, no idea what they were looking for but they were around here for a good hour to hour & a half..

      • Ha. I also had the idea of giving their shitty little kids the laser pointers I have that go couple hundred metres and let them shine them at the cops..

  • I downloaded an N64 emulator & played some Wave Race n shit.

    I really want to play more Pillars of Eternity but it’s so much easier to play old arcade style games when I’ve got other shit to do.

    Pillars is great but it requires so much more of my attention.

    • That’s the same reason I’ve barely played any RPGs lately. So much easier to just play some mindless Overwatch rather than settle in for an hour or two of concentration.

      • Yeah, I was all geared up for Pillars & then I realised I was reading the text but paying zero attention to what it was saying.

        Few rounds of Snowboard Kids & some Mario kart & I was smiling & having fun.

        Fuck real life is draining.

        • I love Snowboard Kids, used to play it so much. Could never unlock that ninja kid though.

          • Really? I remember it being challenging but not impossible.

            I keep getting sniped just before the finish lines this time.

          • Yeah, that’s exactly what would happen. Any time I looked to be about to win he’d sneak out in front at the last second.

          • I’m still stuck on the desert level. No sniping, just one Kid ridiculously way ahead out in front.

  • Decided to put some tlc into my car by fixing a couple of niggling issues. I took care of a noisy power steering pump by fixing a vacuum leak, and felt accomplished. Seems like something the mechanic should have caught.

    I also forwent playing NMS because the PC port is borked, but i did a playthrough of battalion wars 2 instead. It’s such a great game, and would have been amazing on the wii u with a commander on the gamepad and soldiers with wiimotes on the TV.

    I also realised afterwards that Sean Murray, of hello games, worked for Kuju on battalion wars! He was also at Headstrong and Criterion, makers of the fantastic hotd overkill and burnout respectively.

    I don’t think he had any creative command, but wow, small world!

  • Worked on my old mans Website. High End Audio Equipment being sold direct. It’s coming together better than I expected. Still, taking it’s time. jQuery is a bit of a beast to wrap my head around.

    Then took 3 hours to make dinner last night. God dammit it was goord. Creamy Mushroom, Onion and Chicken, roast spuds and kumara and a shitload of broccoli, carrot and peas. Bloudy delicious.

    • That sounds rather tasty.
      I had my cranky pants on when I tried cooking last night and the missus was deciding on what I was cooking and I didn’t know what the dish was and it was not a good experience. End result was ok but far more drama than I wanted.
      Cooking on my own for the little one tonight so things will be much simpler, savory noodle one pan dinner here we come

        • Quick and easy, so makes a great weekday meal.
          Brown some mince, add the powdered sauce, noodles and water
          Simmer until it thickens
          Serve with side of veggies

    • JavaScript is the devil.

      The devil.

      Disclaimer: I maintain a JavaScript emulator as part of my job and the things that language lets you do… 🙁 Some of the stuff involving fiddling with prototypes is so confusing that I can’t make sense of it at all.

  • Spent the weekend flying around in No Mans Sky (PC), its pretty good so far.

    I am enjoying it so far………I think.

    The mechanics are pretty good and the overall replay loop is also fun, but probably only for a while before it becomes boring without an end goal, I can already see myself looking for something deeper (other than reaching the centre), I found a couple of atlas stations last night and that seemed to indicate that there is/might be something more going on, so I will see where that goes.

  • TAY RPG Pathfinder on tonight at 7:30pm ACST and 8pm AEST. Starring:

    @redartifice @tech_knight @freezespreston @beeawwb

    Time to head on home and leave this fishy business behind.

  • Had a Warmachine tournament. Did better but still didn’t enjoy the games. The MK3 rule designs and meta are shifting to only ‘jack spam, or ‘jack with ranged unit spam. To make this worse, all melee infantry and support for my faction were nerfed to crippling levels. There’s not a reason to avoid spamming ‘jacks. I spammed ‘jacks in the last tournament and required BS techniques to lose.

    Thinking about quitting the game altogether.

    • That’s a shame. They’ve definitely swung too far the other way towards jacks then? I stopped in mk2 because I didn’t like the focus on infantry.

      • Mk2 didn’t really focus on infantry. If people did it was probably because AoEs were in short supply or there were too many weapon masters. I played Menoth so infantry didn’t bother me, I just lob 5 AoEs out per turn. Also because Warbeasts were better than Warjacks, people like to grab an extra unit or two to make up for it.

  • Got called on by my friend on Friday to come over on Saturday and help him out with the apartment he’s renovating. Bastard 😛 But still stayed up late to get and play NMS anyway, despite having to get up early. Mistaaaaaake.

    I spent aaaages on my first planet, just hopping from POI to POI and collecting Vy’keen words like crazy. Think I had about 80 of them by the time I first left. Also had a pretty healthy exosuit, with how many drop pods I’d found along the way. Of the five planets in my system, only two had life so that made things a little easier in terms of hunting everything down. I kinda screwed things up a little though, since I was trying to clear out the place before I moved on to the next system – I ended up coming across a crashed ship with an extra slot, so figured hey why not upgrade, the repairs don’t seem that bad. Only, once I’d grabbed it and started flying it around to get the rest of what I needed to fix it up, it turned out that repairing the hyperdrive got rid of the warp charge it was storing. And I didn’t have a recipe for antimatter, only the electron vapour which I thought was antimatter. UHHHH.

    I can’t actually remember how I got out of that one. I may have found a trading post or something where I could buy antimatter, or maybe a warp cell. Either way it was enough to get out into the next system. Where it was completely jarring to suddenly find my >150 words of Vy’keen were useless, since everyone here speaks Korvax. Dammit 😛

    And then I found another crashed ship. And again underestimated the repair bill. I discovered that you can recall your ship to one of the beacon thingos even if you can’t actually fly it due to the repairs, but that turned out to be a bad thing. This one needed zinc to repair the thrusters, which I thought I had but NOPE. Just needed 20 of them, but the planet I was on… god, what a shit heap of a planet. Incredibly sparse POIs. No life. ZERO resources, other than plutonium. So none of those little plants that give you zinc. And I couldn’t even swap back to my old ship any more, because who knows where that was. I started farming for colonial outposts in the hopes of finding a trading post where I could maybe buy some zinc, but each one came up as being a minimum 15mins away, and in all directions. And after four or five of them, it just kept pointing me to the same one again and again. Rather than pick the nearest one I picked one that was close-ish but had another closer by than any of the others, just in case it turned out to be a dud. Mercifully about halfway there I chanced upon a proper trade hub! Called my broken ship in, fixed it up and went on my way. Stupid thing 😛

    Currently got 25 slots on my suit, 15 in my multitool and I think 16 in my ship. Almost hit a million moneys but then the exosuit upgrades took care of that and I guess I need to start hoarding more stuff to sell. Hopefully this system has some nicer planets that are worth exploring.

    • Your first planet must’ve been pretty nice… mine was toxic as all hell, couldn’t get that ship in the air soon enough 😛

      Was looking for a new ship last night – my then-current ship was pretty spacious at 26 slots, but the position of the cockpit and the way it tended to land meant as often as not I’d hop out of the ship and fall 20m down a ravine – I swear that ship was out to kill me. 😛 Found a neat-looking fixer-upper – had 27 slots, and had decent upgrades, but literally everything was damaged. Fixed the launch thrusters expecting that to be enough to at least get it in the air, and limp it to a nearby trade node to work on, but nope. Needed the pulse engines too… Spent twenty minutes wandering around the nearby area looking for basic materials.

      Good tip about getting a damaged ship to a beacon… will keep that in mind next time I find a diamond in the rough. 🙂

      • Inb4 they patch it out as a bug 😛

        Guess I got pretty lucky with my first planet, everything was plentiful. Though the toxic/otherwise harsh ones don’t really seem like much of a threat, the most troubling bit I found was on a green and magenta irradiated hellhole made of islands in the sky and radioactive water on the surface, which was extremely radioactive so I couldn’t swim for all that long to search for underwater discoveries. But yeah, otherwise even on that last planet with NO recovery plants, I was able to freely walk around trying to repair my ship without fear of the envirohazard.

  • Ok just tried taking a screenshot and it’s proving rather impossible. Whatever I paste from Print Screen seems to be massively delayed from the moment I actually pressed it, half the time I’m just pasting the pause screen even though I left it for several second before pausing and switching window. Blah.

    • Does GoG Galaxy have a print screen layer? Also, there is a thing where you can print screen straight to a drop box folder

      • Not sure, but even then it’s the timing thing that’s the problem right now. It’s not actually capturing what’s on screen when I hit the button, it’s from some other random time. Just need to keep trying again and again til I luck upon what I wanted to capture, I guess.

    • WinKey + PrintScreen to save the screenshot straight to disk (assuming Win8+).

      If you need more control, try Snipping Tool (Win8+) or if on Win10, try the Xbox game bar stuff as it has some really robust screenshot features.

      • I think I’ve figured it out maybe. The screen I’m presented with when pasting is what was on screen the last time I alt-tabbed out before hitting print screen. So I need to tab out, tab in, screenshot, tab out, paste, check, save. Weird.

        On win10 though don’t know those features, snipping tool and xbox game bar.

        • Well on Win10 both are installed. Use the WinKey + PrintScreen shortcut though – saves you needing to copy/paste.

          • Would if it was acting normally, but having to check each time to make sure it’s captured what I want then there’s about as much busywork either way – manually saving the one I want, or deleting each one I don’t want.

            It’s so strange though, have you ever heard of anything like that happening before? Or have any idea why?

  • *sigh*
    Found a driver fault with my computer this morning, and now I can’t fix it.

    It’s showing an error with atikmdag.sys
    That tells me it has to do with the graphics card drivers.
    @welbot @techknight any ideas?

    • Urgh, ATI…
      My best guess would be ensure it’s updated to latest drivers, if not that, then reinstall the drivers from scratch on the latest version as I know driver updates could make older versions screw with your performance/operation too.

      If you can get a specfic error code from the logs, look up online on that, you’d be surprised with the details you could get from just the error code. Helped me out with my graphics issues in the past.

  • No Man’s Sky Players!
    As someone who has played way too much I thought I’d let you know there are, I believe, unique or at least rare ships and multi tools to be found.
    The tool I got from a monolith and was organic and spiky with glowing purple crystals. Unfortunately the game crashed soon after and I could never get it again. Got a screenshot tho.
    Ship’s I’ve found two of at crash sites that have models I’ve never seen anywhere else, a Gek and Korvax. Both are yellow and have the designation S42.
    Keep an eye out and remember to save.

    Also, a general tip: when swapping for a new ship or tool, if possible dismantle everything on the old one first for half the materials. Makes kitting out the new one so much easier.
    And for crashed ships, just dismantle everything damaged and build new in the slots you want – end up using the same amount of materials.

    • Man, I’ll need to grab a screenie of my ship. It’s weirdly… vertical? Almost like flying Slave I, if it were made from gigantic PVC pipes set up like an upside-down set of wickets. Haven’t seen one like it elsewhere yet.

  • Just spent about half an hour desperately trying to fly from an asteroid field to the planet’s surface, thanks to the stupid fucking auto-aim bullshit firing directly at a ship flying past as I was trying to mine some nickel. Where’s the god damn chaff button? This kind of bullshit doesn’t happen in Elite 😛

    I was so close too, but then ran out of oxides to keep pumping up my shield. RIP.
    But I don’t care, I’m reloading.

  • So this planet I’m on is pretty awesome. Crystalline aluminium as the secondary resource (which sells for a pretty penny at the trade posts), along with titanium crystals scattered around the place. Heridium columns all around, as well as big crystals of Emeril. But I don’t really need that. What I found is there’s also random arches of iridium scattered about the place too, which is really super helpful right now. And plenty of knowledge stones, lots of stuff really close by. And it’s only the second planet of this system 😛

    Also as a random aside – usually I’m not one for listening to anything but the game’s music. But it hasn’t really been doing it for me tbh. Saw someone suggest listening to prog rock, so I clicked on a random youtube playlist and it’s setting the tone much better I reckon 😛

    Oh and also, I just discovered the joy of plasma grenades. No more dead ends to tunnels any more, just dig your way out! Super handy.

    • If you need some chill instrumental prog rock suggestions:

      Sithu Aye
      Animals as leaders
      Intervals (their early stuff is all instrumental, later stuff with lyrics)
      Russian Circles (more post-rock than prog, but still quality)

      • Or go with classic stuff like 1970s-era Yes or the like. I feel like Tales from Topographic Oceans might work really well.

  • Finally finished Witcher 3 after 10 months. Kinda disappointed in the final fight. Although I have a toxicity rating of 270 and just downed all my potions.

  • Huh, looks like Minecraft VR just got put up on the Oculus store. As if I needed yet another stay-up-all-night-exploring simulator to check out.

  • Well, I’m gonna have to find another driver that’ll hopefully play nice with my graphics card, since the newest one causes a BSOD.

  • Morning TAY!

    So weekend was brutal. Between Friday afternoon and Sunday night, I had about 6 hours of sleep… which was also the longest period of time between beers. Had a few mates over for the weekend to watch the TI6 finals, they all brought their gaming rigs so we had a massive LAN party bender.

    Almost recovered now. TI6 was incredible – the games were absolutely amazing. EHOME-EG game 1 and DC-EG game 3 are both some of the best games I’ve ever seen, rating right up with the TI3 finals as the best games ever played.

  • Had an interesting day in pokemon go
    Popped a lucky egg on my way into work and set about evolving for XP. 3 new pokemon due to evolution and another character level. Then I had to power walk the last little bit but managed to hatch an egg with about a minute left on my lucky egg.
    Redemption from the @transientmind inspired last hatching where I got a pinsir, this time I hatched a Magmar which got me the new pokemon bonus when I still had my lucky egg on.
    Then went for a walk lunch and caught 2 new types of pokemon and hatched another 10 km egg and got another Magmar.
    So 6 new mons in the one day and the top end of my pokedex is starting to look at least slightly respectable.

  • Morning. I feel mergh. I have started to work on my cosplay and have gone from being completely relaxed to stressing out about how much time until pax. Good job me!

  • Woo, Guns N’ Roses Australian tour has been leaked, they’re touring February 2017! One of the dates is Valentines Day at the MCG, how romantic!

    I honestly never thought i’d get to see Slash & Axl share the stage under the GNR name.

  • Welp, complain and ye shall receive, I guess? Loaded up NMS last night, intent on starting my search for nickel and aluminium to build my new warp reactor upgrade, confident that the system I was in held nothing but emeril, gold and copper. Just before I’m about to jump, I spot the name of one of the planets – Richtsehrag – stuck out from the other odd unpronounceable planet names in the rest of the system, so I figured I’d take a quick look before I left. The place was a slagged wasteland… but absolutely covered in huge nickel spires and aluminium blobs. In honour of it’s pivotal timing, it’s clear evidence of a rough past, and abundance of what would be called by many “bland and uninteresting metal,” I named it “The Planet, Lars“. 😛

  • I havent bought pringles in a long time, and then bought a couple of tins today. While its true that after I popped I couldnt stop, is it just me or have the tube and chips shrunk in diameter?? The can seems smaller and i cant fit my hand down the tube to fish out more chips…..

  • Does anyone know if PAX Aus tickets have been sent out yet? I just realised it’s getting close and I’m pretty sure mine are going to go missing in the mail.

  • Okay, not looking at fanart articles on Kotaku while at work anymore…
    That “Samus Pharan” article, there’s at least one picture that would most likely go under a NSFW tag.

  • My computer is finally back to a working standard!

    Now I have to re-download my games on Steam.

    • Did you format the drive they were on? If not and you still have the files, you can just load them and they’ll do the first install thing again. That or go to install, point at the same place & steam will check for existing files & only download what’s missing

      • Yes. Unfortunately, the only way I could get it to work again was to format my computer.

  • Interesting planet here. Well, it’s the moon to the first planet of this system. Radioactive, massive towers of nickel and emeril. I dunno if it’s the radiation, but the wildlife is… interesting 😛 Terrier-faced elephants with ostrich legs that impossibly fly on butterfly wings. Man-eating bumblebee-faced t-rex type creatures that stomp around making the strangest of noises. And weird little moth things that are almost too tiny to target, and seem to be impervious to damage.

    There’s only one species for me still to find. And considering that in all my scouring of the surface I’ve only found a single giant crocodile fish, it makes me wonder how long it’ll take to track this other one down. Actually, I only found one swarm of the other type of fish too…

    • Ok as much as I loved that weird-arse radioactive wonderland, the one I just landed on totally looks like Minecraft. All lush and leafy and vibrant green, lots of deep blue water, fair bit of sand around. ALSO CRYSTALLINE CHRYSONITE, FINALLY!

      Time for some mad upgrades.

    • I actually managed to 100% scan a planet’s species yesterday. Tried so many times but can never find that last one or two usually.

      • This was the first one I had trouble with, the previous two or three were fine 😛

        Got the same with Planet Minecraft, though the outposts are super spread out and I’m half an hour from my ship and still haven’t seen another beacon to call it to me to move to a new area yet. Dangit.

    No fucking wonder Microsoft’s phone business is going ass up when they can’t even get something simple as a bloody usable contacts list right.
    All I wanted was all my contacts in sorted groups easily selectable to make a call.
    But no. I can see my contacts in the phone app but not edit or arrange them them in any way. So I have to go into the people app to do that and create groups. But then I can’t even see those groups with the phone app making it a complete waste of time.
    And then, I notice that for some fucking reason it has populated my phone contacts list, not with the bloody phone numbers I gave it, but with people I once talked to on fucking MSN messenger 15 years ago pulled from the depths of my Microsoft account. And can I remove them? Of course fucking not. I have to spend 20 minutes on my laptop searching through a dozen barely labeled menus in my account settings to find where the hell it stored this crap. And then delete them one by one because for some damn reason this particular list you can’t select all at once.
    And then, that all done, it STILL doesn’t update this change to my damn phone. I literally have to do a factory restore to remove these fucking redundant contacts cluttering the place up. Of course I have to fucking Google how to do that because be damned if you can find shit like that in the phones arbitrarily sorted settings.
    And all that still doesn’t solve my problem of being able to quickly find a particular contact to call.

    I’ve been using this phone for a whole afternoon and I’m already wanting to smash it with a brick.

    • It takes a bit of getting used to, but the Phone app is mostly just for call logging and manual dialling. The People app is your contacts. If you want to use Groups I suggest holding your finger on the Group’s icon in the People app and pinning the groups themselves to your main menu.
      The fact you can pin things like that is sort of the key to the entire OS. It doesn’t seem too impressive at first, but the level of versatility that lets me add my gym playlist or a direct link to text messages from a specific contact can lead to some really nice results.

      That said, yeah, Microsoft suck at app design. They seem to think an app is a low quality version of regular software with features stripped out. It’s really strange considering the role apps and phone/PC/table compatibility should be playing in Windows 10.

      It was really eye opening seeing what information my phone gained just by connecting to my Hotmail account.

      • They seem to think an app is a low quality version of regular software with features stripped out.Wait, I thought that’s what *everyone* thought apps were?

  • Just took Minecraft VR for a spin. It’s got some interesting options there for VR, they all seem to work quite well. Though I’m not a fan of the linear jumps, and can’t really tell what linear motion does. “Wheel turning” is pretty cool, it’s kind of like scrolling on a touch screen (in that you grab the screen and pull it around) except you use the stick to drag the world around you. Between framing it in your mind as “I’m not moving, I’m moving the world around me” and keeping the movements fairly fast, it seems to work quite well for avoiding nausea. Though maybe not for someone without as much tolerance, I imagine it’d still set my friend’s wife off. But she wouldn’t even be able to walk around anyway 😛

    Actually come to think of it they don’t seem to have any kind of teleportation type movement. I mean I know they don’t want to give people advantages or anything over people not using VR and keep it a fairly level playing field, but I would’ve thought they’d at least have some kind of tick-based movement like their VR Turning (instantly rotates a certain amount in steps, and maintains the same overall rotation rate as smooth turning when held).

    Also amusing, I dug out my old skin I used to use way back when, based on a caricature my friend drew of me. So I’m in my Arthur boxers, with Little Mac gloves and my Captain Falcon helmet. After applying this, and changing my name, on returning to the main menu the little comment dealio now read “This is my true form!” How did they know? 😛

  • Well that’s awesome. I finally got some seller feedback on eBay (sold my Fallout 4 Pip Boy Edition, ended up breaking even which is cool) and the buyer called me professional. Now that’s a good feeling!

  • Woooooo! Guns N’ Roses have announced a stadium tour for Australia February 2017! I don’t wanna imagine the ticket price, but damn it I want to go so bad!

  • What up TAY! Page 2 on a Wednesday without me! Madness!

    In other news looks like the videos have been pulled out of articles since I’m no longer getting them randomly pop up?

    • For the moment but it doesn’t look the the site has a major sponsor at the moment.
      Will likely come back next time somebody pays for advertising

  • Omg I’ve been using prerogative wrong all these years?! Who the hell came up with perogative :@

  • So I finished Trine 3 over the weekend
    I really, really like the Trine series and the switch to 3d was interesting, even though it did become clear they ran out of money and released the game half way through
    I really hope they continue the story, either a trine 4 or DLC for this one. There are a few more levels in the steam workshop I’ll try but feel liek I want some meat, not just gravy.
    It seemed a lot easier to 100% this one, seemed more a case of trying to work out how to get the trineangles rather than hidden away ones that are trouble to find.

    • Yeah, I enjoyed 1&2, haven’t tried 3 yet, as I’ve been co-opping them with a a friend.

      • It got a bad rap when released but the actual game is good. The only issue is length. It feels like the first act of a 3 act show that stops after the first act.
        But the 2.5D style actually works well and keeps the trine feel. It does seem a little less puzzly this tiem around, Doesn’t have the leveling and Amadues is limited to a single box so less building precarious towers

  • Trailer for the new Metal Gear game.

    It’s different for the MG universe, possibly derivative within the genre, and looks more entertaining than it should be.

    The community conversations around the direction of the series and Konami might even be more entertaining, albeit in a derisive, crying piss-baby kind of way.

  • Well, I take back everything I said.
    I’ve had fun playing No Man’s Sky, but the more I play, the more I see all the same few creatures I’ve discovered duplicated on other peoples social media and the more I read stuff like:
    the more I realize that it’s a poor shadow of the game it was supposed to be.
    It’s… disappointing. NMS was pretty much the last game I’d been looking forward to. But it killed some time I guess and I spose that’s what it’s all about.

    Hopefully WoW: Legion will keep me entertained for a while, cause at the moment it seems like it might be the last video game I play.
    Not that I have anything else to do.

    • This was why I didn’t get it, I was afraid that exactly this would happen.
      Nothing else to do? There’s always Stellaris still 😉
      There’s a mod I’m trying out that you can play as a synthetic race, where you don’t use food and are more dependant on energy to “grow” your pops by building them. Also includes “Robot Mk II” and above techs.

    • See I’ve been seeing reviews and comments like this all over the internet. My question to people is why the hell are you playing this game like its meant to be finished? When I heard about No Man’s Sky all those years ago I knew how I was going to tackle it. Every lazy Sat/Sun afternoon I’d jump on for a few hours explore the planet I’m on, name a few things, take it nice and slow and log off and come back in a week.

      It’s not meant to be finished, or farmed, or rushed or grinded out (you have WoW for that) :p. So far I’ve really been enjoying the experience and I plan on dragging the experience out over the next year or so. I still remember the first planet I landed on had a really weird looking plant that looked like it had blood flowing through it and I named it Blood root! My only qualms of note would be I wish there was a map, and I wish there was a faster way to travel across the planet or alternatively a way to teleport back to my ship.

      • It’s another one of those “Victims of their own hype and mystery concoction” situations. Because of how vague it was presented during development, a lot of people’s expectations went not only through the roof, but past the bloody moon, and when it didn’t meet those crazily high expectations… well they might feel kinda cheated. Not entirely the devs’ fault either, however they did backflip on things they said (e.g. Multiplayer not really being multiplayer, trying to mask it with “The galaxy is too large for two people to easily meet, if ever”)

        • Yeah see I actually went into the game hoping to never run into someone, finding out that would never happen was a positive in my books. I don’t want some troll following me around ruining my solitary exploration experience. I think its less to do with hype and more to do with the kind of game the devs sold this as in the past 12 months.

          All those stupid trailers saying “fight”, “trade”, “explore”. The only thing that you were ever going to do in a game like this is “explore”. For me the whole experience is a glorified Starfleet simulator. I get to run around and discover new life, outposts, caves, etc. I have a constant stockpile of what I need to maintain my suit so I can go exploring without worry. And lets face it, not too many gamers out there really care about exploration if it doesn’t have purpose. You don’t need to memorize every single discovery but occasionally you’ll come across one that’s really cool and you’ll stop and try to appreciate it. I.e. the first time I came across Heridium, I was like whoa what are you?! or the first time I came across a T-rex looking animal that turned out to be a harmless herbivore.

          I guess the question I want to ask people is what exactly were you expecting? Story quests? overarching plot? an FPS?

          My only major qualm with the whole thing would be the fact there don’t appear to be any “alien” planets as such. I.e. planets that the aliens have built cities and societies on. That would’ve been a really cool addition even if unrealistic from a technical view-point.

          • My two issues are the cities thing, like you (how cool would it be to find a planet like Coruscant?), and I wish that a few areas were less clunky. Shooting and space flying are serviceable at best, and particularly in ship combat I feel like I’m not playing it right, even though deep down I know that I am (also needs a quick-shield-recharge button).

            But just like, jumping three systems, hopping down onto the first planet you see, and wandering around knowing that all you’ve got is a tiny fraction of knowledge about this one planet in a huge cosmos, and seeing what cool things you can find is great.

            As a side note to your point above, it’s sort of cheating, but there’s a faster way to move around if you start sprinting, hit the melee button, and then start jetpacking. It picks up the forward momentum from the melee, and I can’t go back to normal walking now.

          • And then once you start packing on the jetpack upgrades…
            Need one to make the damn thing recharge faster though. Or maybe a pair of water shoes my guy can carry around with him, so that it instantly recharges whenever I land.

        • Yeah. I think they really hurt themselves with that. Procedural generation is really good at generating statistics, but they shouldn’t have let people get carried away with what those statistics actually translate to. A trillion unique life-forms doesn’t create as diverse a universe as you’d think if the unique attributes are just different body parts. The human brain picks up patterns far too easily. It makes the game more about cataloguing generic creatures and finding fuel than exploring the unknown.

          [Not that it’s a bad game, it’s just in that Lair ‘it’s not for everyone but they sold it as everything to everyone’ category.]

      • I didn’t have hype, I went in enthused but with a relatively clear mind and open to whatever it was. And I had fun.
        But it literally is not what was promised and shown. The whole pitch of stuff like physics, an actual universe instead of instanced skyboxes, different ship classes, deep faction relations, meaningful crafting, large scale ship battles, resources and creatures created by an algorithm unique to every solar system/planet ect. Like core, bones of the gameplay stuff.
        Actually read that reddit post. It’s pretty damning.

        Remember how recently some scientist came out and said they did not have permission to use the “Superformula” that Sean Murray said the game was built on right back in the first reveal? And he replied with that the game doesn’t use it?
        From what I can see I think the original version of the game they were making WAS built on that formula and that’s the build trailers and such were from. But I suspect they couldn’t make it work as a actual ready to play game. But by that point the hype train was unstoppable and money was on the table so instead of admitting it they instead rebuilt a shallower version, stamped it on a disk and kept their mouths shut.

        • See all those things you listed I wasn’t even aware of, didn’t know about planet phsyics, different ship classes, faction relations, crafting and ship battles. Finding out about them now in that post and then finding out they aren’t there is a net neutral event for me. But I will agree on the point that the planets I’ve seen are considerably less populated and detailed than the one shown in the very first video I saw for the game; so my only question (aside from missing city planets) is where are planets like that??

    • Yea, I’d avoided a lot of the pre-release info for NMS, so I wasn’t too concerned about it… until I saw that reddit thread. I’d thought it was all a case of people filling in the blanks, and over-hyping themselves… but just about every feature people whine about can be sourced back to a quote from the game creator.

      I made several half-hearted jokes about this, but in this case, he truly is Molyneaux 2: With a Vengeance.

      • Yeah same. I didn’t devour every trailer, I just picked it up and played.
        But little niggling inconsistencies just kept piling up in the back of my mind and then I saw that thread and it all sorta clicked.

  • Aww this poor guy that came into work this morning. His kid put an apple sticker on his face and she trolled him saying that it came off on its own. So he waited at a train station, sat on a crowded train and walked down a CBD road with that sticker still on his face, he looked so embarrassed when his colleague took a photo and showed him “You look different today”. xD

  • Hey all. I’ve spent a fair bit of time away from the xbox, (too busy with football and uni) and am now trying to rekindle my love for gaming. I am still chugging away at The Witcher 3 and just picked up DmC definitive for $13!!! (I finished it on 360 a few years ago and loved it).

    Now deciding whether to pick up Dark Souls 3, MGSV or Fallout 4…

  • Is having an evacuation/bug-out bag weird? I got in the habit when we lived next to bushland as more of a fire-escaping plan than anything else, but I’ve continued restocking it because why not?
    Still in a suburb that’s surrounded by bush, but we’re at a far lower risk now.
    Also, given that my MIL and BIL live nearby and are two of the (physically) least useful adults that I know, my little 2-person supply of emergency gear would probably have to stretch between 4 people in a major emergency.

    • Nah man, you never know when the zombies are gonna strike. Be sure to regularly check you’ve a clear path to Bunnings too.

      • I’ve often thought that if the zombies strike, work would be the best place for me to be. Industrial unit in a fenced compound, backs onto a storage facility and we’re within 600m of a Bunnings, Supercheap Auto and BCF.

  • Lovely apparently someone overdosed in the toilets at the shopping centre where I am working at today.

    @freezespreston look at the shit you miss out on cause you now work at a much nicer centre with actual customers 😛

  • Boardganes! Ok that typo can stay.

    It was supposed to be Luchador! and Roll For The Galaxy, but the Roll guy and some others didn’t show so we only did the wrestling dice. Two four player free-for-alls, with boss taking place as ref for the first match and my friend having to go home after that. Can’t actually remember who won the first one, I think it may have come down to me vs my friend but he managed to knock me out. Second match we decided to make it a quick one and flipped the board for a cage match. It’s pretty cool that it works like that 😛

    I had a pretty good game. Sort of. Only took one hit all match! Except… rolling a miss makes you lose 1hp, as if you hit the bars of the cage. And I rolled a lot of misses. And that one hit was the boss’ strongest special move, knocking me out. Dangit. It was then down to him and one of the others, and came SO CLOSE to being a double KO. Other guy was left with 1hp, just one more miss in there and they would have taken each other down.

    Simple but fun enough. Still a little confusing with some of the edge cases that come up though, and figuring out how the rules are supposed to apply.

    • I have El Luchador Fantastico Grande which looks rather similar
      This was an impulse buy purely on the name as a filler game

      • Ah yeah, I think my friend pointed that out to me back on its kickstarter or something. How is it?

        • I’ve only played it 2 player and lacking a bit there
          A few more players would be useful and could be fun. The mechanics are simple so works as a filler

  • Been playing more Armored Core 4.
    When you finally complete a mission that’s been giving you so much grief, feels so good. 🙂

  • Seeing as @welbot hasn’t posted here. He had his operation on Wednesday to have the cyst removed. It went well but now his nose hurts like hell. They’re checking to see if his symptoms disappear.

    So, all the best Welbot! I hope the symptoms are gone

    • 🙂 Cheers! I mostly hadn’t posted cos I didn’t have much in the way of energy yesterday. Just made a few quick fb/twitter ones from the couch. Feeling a little more with it today, though still extremely sore. Especially after I woke up in the middle of the night and sneezed…….OW!!!!!!!!!!!
      Will likely be a week or more before I am able to tell if the dizziness and lethargy are truly gone, and maybe a bit longer til I know if the leg twitching has stopped, as I need to slowly taper off the clonazepam i’ve been taking for it. Having said that, I do feel slightly better, but not sure if that’s just cos I felt so super rubbish yesterday, or cos it’s actually working.
      Will keep y’all posted though 🙂

  • Saw Mass Effect 1 and 2 on sale on Steam. Remembering 3 is only available on Origin, checked there to see if you can get the entire trilogy+DLC in one pack – nope, still trying to flog off the individual parts for an inflated price. I think I’d drop new game price again on a complete edition, if it were available.

  • This thread needs an injection of Spaghett!!

    Last song played game time!!

    John My Beloved by Sufjan Stevens – amazingly talented man and one of my favourite musicians

    What was your last song played??

    How are you all?

    • Gott Mit Uns – Sabaton

      Doing ok, working late last night so started late because I spent some time walking with missus and Tiglet going to daycare

    • The Metal – Tenacious D.

      Slowly trying to fix my sleep schedule… so tired. Simultaneously trying to get to grips with Bungie’s API to see what I can do with it, which isn’t helping 😛

      • I really need to try do that. Sleep at 5/6, up at 1 is not good >_>
        And trying to collaborate with a central American who likes to start conversations at 2am really doesn’t help :p

        • I’m generally aiming to get to sleep at 11 to give myself a couple extra hours sleep, but I’m always still wide awake then, so I figure I’ll try to fix one little issue, or add one little feature from my todo list… next time I think to check the time, it’s two hours later 😛

  • Can this rain kindly bugger off?
    There’s a copy of Persona 4: Ultimax I have to get from the post office.

  • Hmm, it’s funny. For some godforsaken unknown reason, I got back into Skyrim. I played it on console for an eight-hour binge session before I realised I bought it on Steam in a sale last year. I got to try out mods for the first time! They’re alright.

    In the many years and many hours I have played the game, I have role-played as several different kind of characters. From a simple thief to a Jack the Ripper-style serial killer who never gets caught. I even role-played as a hobo in the woods once. I know, I’m horrible.

    But the weird thing is, as soon as I decide that my character is sympathetic to the Stormcloaks, I get antsy. I’m fine with doing all that horrible shit I said earlier, but supporting the Stormcloaks? Makes me uncomfortable. Shows the weird side of my moral compass in that I’m okay with murder but not with racism.

    I hate the Stormcloaks, they probably vote UKIP.

    • Well I have not sided with the stormcloaks before so not sure how much racist they come, they seem ok to me with my experience.
      Basically my character was kinda sympathetic to them but is in love with Legate Rikke so I kill them for her.

  • @jocon this might throw a wrench into the works if Blizz are serious about the time-frames –

    Apparently each raid tier isn’t planned to last more than 4-5 months. I was anticipating at least 6 months per tier to build us into mythic… That said if they stick to that release schedule they’ll have more raid releases in a single year of legion than they’ve had across any previous expansion ever (so unlikely imo). What we’ll probably see is a new dungeon/event alternating between a new raid.

    For more straightforward info check out the mmo champ post inside the article.

    • Hmmm.
      I’m fine with sticking with Heroic as the aspiration TBH. With our timeframe I don’t think Mythic was ever gonna be on the table except for a completionist thing once all the other content has dropped and been done.
      The shorter tier length will make things interesting for us. Either we will fall behind or clear just in time for new content. Gonna have to be on our game, I’m keen.

      The MMO Champ article also mention a mini raid between EN and NH.
      Now, I’m assuming EN is the first Tier and NH is the second and the mini won’t be Tier? Or is NH still technically Tier 1 like BRF was?
      Because if the latter, doing 2 and a half heroic raids in 4-5 months is gonna be tight for us.

      The Karazhan Dungeon is cool. I wonder how it will fit into the loot spectrum.

      • EN is Highmaul, no tier pieces but an entry level raid for the xpac. NH is the first tier raid so think of that as your BRF. If we had 6 months per tier once we completed normal EN, we wouldve tackled norm/heroic NH simultaneously (since normal NH gear would’ve been a very negligible improvement if we clear heroic EN).

        TBH I want to push Mythic, I don’t want to half-ass progression anymore. If we stay on progression with normal/heroic we’ll get to a point where Mythic will be do-able. Even if we only partially clear a tier in Mythic I’m fine with that. But that’s the long term goal, I’m not pushing anything out of the group while we focus on EN/NH.

        If I know blizz what’ll end up happening is we’ll get EN for about 4-5 months, then NH at the start of the year followed by a mini-raid (like the PvP ones in Wotlk, Cata) and probably introduce a story region to help gear for the next raid. This should give us around 6-8 months to clear NH.

        I imagine the dungeon will act like Tanaan or the Timeless Isle, a loot catchup system that is better than LFR from the raids and possibly normal difficulty but not as good as heroic/mythic.

        Now worth noting Nighthold does not launch with the expansion, only EN will be available.

        • Pretty nice.
          Might give it a shot, see how it compares to ElvUi. I do like ElvUi’s crazy tweakability though.

          • I just like how completely uncluttered the whole screen is. One of things that annoys me to no end is having my HP bar up in the top left hand corner. I constantly lose track of my own health as a healer since my raid frames are all under my character.

          • ElvUi. Every single part of the ui can be changed to your liking: size, position, font, style, transparency, appear always or on mouseover, more stuff, less stuff, whatever the hell you want.
            And I believe there are custom skins for it too if you don’t like the modernist look.
            Not on Curse, has it’s own site.
            Give it a shot – hell if you want you can just disable all the changes except for the chat.

  • So lovely. I’ve had to go to the union about my boss & his attitude toward me, several staff from Woolies have told me he has been saying rude things about me to them calling me names. That’s just not on. I honestly thought he was starting to warm up to this place & get along with us all, I guess not.

  • Was wondering if the thing with singer lady had maybe fallen through as these things tend to do, but finally got a response back. Along with a whole load of picture messages of sheet music while she gets around to getting proper copies 😛 My phone was buzzing like crazy, thought it was going to melt. Now to figure out how to easily get them off there and in usable form…

    • Damn this place really has gone quiet. 2 days after you mention getting loads of picture messages from a lady and there’s been no mention of anyone grabbing popcorn…

  • Yay! The reviews are out for Deus Ex Mankind Divided and they are good. I was a little worried because i hadn’t heard much marketing from them. Really looking forward to next week now!!!!

  • Woo. New Metallica song was released yesterday along with a release date, track listing etc for their new album! Was gonna pre-order via JB HiFi but the delux 3 disc set is $40 from them. Fuck that noise.

    Instead I ordered it directly from the Metallica merch store, $28 AUD including $5 postage & I get a digital copy of it on release day and also got a digital copy of the new single Hardwired. Now that’s how you sell to fans. Can’t remember last time I pre-ordered an album directly from a band & got a digital copy with the physical one, it’s always one or the other.

  • …I think I dreamt I woke up and my beard was gone? But then was super confused about not being able to remember removing it. Weird.

    • And now it seems I’ve found a planet with a bajillion of those Vortex Cubes just chilling out in caves where nobody cares if I take them. Unlike that last planet with all the gravitino balls.

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