Both Sony and Microsoft are talking a big game about 4K gaming. The PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are primarily angled as 4K gaming devices, which means that to get the most out of either console you’ll need a 4K TV. So, do you?
Microsoft was pretty psyched about 4K last week. Are you?
I do not own a 4K TV, nor do most of the people I know. That does not mean very much in the grand scheme of things. A Kotaku poll is far from a scientific way to get to the bottom of something, but I thought it would be a good place to start.
A second poll, if you said no:
I’ll be curious how this one shakes out.
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29 responses to “Do You Own A 4K TV?”
I don’t think we even had a HD TV til about 2010 or so.
got a Sony 4k tv at Christmas, the PS Pro had already made some of my games look even better in just 1080 but now with the new tv the difference between some games is night vs night. The old tv went to my bro and little niece and nephew, who can now play their xbox on a 55″ screen not a 32. Everyone won. Except maybe my credit card. Dont regret it for a minute.
hah er make that day vs night, stupid thing wont let me edit.
i own a 4k tv and must say i cant tell much difference in gaming between 4k and 2k.
the only exception being dirt 4. 4k really helps with small details in the horizon.
i prefer to play horizon zero dawn in framerate mode rather than 4k.
likewise i cant see much difference in the witcher 3 other than my pc struggling at 4k.
i would much rather the new consoles having better fidelity and framerate at 1080
A toast, to our fallen comrades, who died of alcohol poisoning at the great “4K Drinking Game of E3 2017″… and because those of us playing the 60fps drinking game got two sips for Forza and had to toss the rest.
What is difference between frame rate mode and 4K? I’m not aware of the term
@arnna effectively, HZD can either run at the same level of graphics quality at 4K resolution, or lower 1080p resolution, and the framerate gets higher to smooth out animations etc.
1080p TVs there’s also higher graphical quality at 1080p resolution.
The framerate doesn’t get higher in HZD. It’s still locked to 30FPS. It’s supposedly more stable, however I haven’t noticed any dips at all on my Pro at 4K.
See http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-horizon-zero-dawn-ps4-pro-performance-analysis
Huh, TIL, I thought it did. Might just whack mine on the prettier mode then.
My 1080 OLED looks just fine for another couple of years.
Honestly I just don’t feel like we have fully taken advantage of 1080p. There is more we can do to make stuff look better at that resolution. The main reason is that I feel like we only just got to the point where all tv shows and movies can be watched at home in 1080p. 4k just isn’t available for a lot of content right now. If I bought a 4k tv and I’m going to be watching a lot of 1080p content it’s not going to look as sharp.
I also watch a lot of broadcast sport and it still looks pretty crappy today at low bitrate 1080i. This is what I mean by 1080p TVs not being fully taken advantage of. Broadcast TV is nowhere near. Internet streaming could be higher bitrate and look nicer. Console games could be hitting 60fps instead of 30fps and could have other nice visual elements instead of stretching to a higher resolution. I don’t see myself upgrading for the foreseeable future.
I feel like I should invest in 4K but I just don’t need to, at least in the short term. I’m happy with the FHD content I’m getting on Netflix and iTunes. And I prefer getting the maximum power, performance and quality out of FHD on the PS4 Pro and the XboneX (when the latter comes out). I will upgrade to 4K, but there is no strong incentive for me at the moment.
I love my 4k oled
Fighting a Stormbird against the moonlight in Horizon felt worth every cent
I only recently picked up a 4K LCD and it was mainly due to the power consumption of the existing plasma. Spent a month or so researching and ended up grabbing a Samsung KS8000 which I’m very happy with. The quality, even with upscaling, is brilliant and contrast is superb. Not interested in 4K gaming at this stage but will likely grab an Xbox One X when they’re released.
I’m waiting for a 4K projector to get down to reasonable dollars.
25,000 votes and only 8 comments?
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I do not. But I’m interested. Just don’t know much about tvs and I’ve heard refresh rate matters for gaming (which is what I’d be using it for) – what is a good refresh rate?
And what other specs do I need to be aware of??
That’s one thing holding me back (in addition to a lack of cash.) I’ve read in a few reviews that only some 4K sets have low input lag with HDR mode on. Plus, I wan’t the whole HDR standard to have settled before buying a set (I think HDR-10 will be sufficient and Dolby Vision will end up not worth the effort.)
There are two measures – hertz and milliseconds. Three if you include frames per second. Hertz is the number of times a TV refreshes per second, the millisecond measure is the time it takes to go from black to white. Or more likely, grey to grey these days.
They all do different things, but Hz seems to translate fairly easily into the others, at least with TV’s. A 100 Hz tele in general will have something around a 10ms redraw, which is plenty fast enough for most people. 60 fps is going to hold up well enough at those ratings, which is the cap most seem to aim for.
4K might (or might not) benefit more from faster refresh/redraw (ie, 200 Hz or 5ms), I don’t know, but if you want a general rule, 100 Hz is enough for 60 fps, and translates to around 10ms at worst most of the time.
Monitors are different to that by the way, where the grey to grey refresh is king, and often down around the 1ms or 2ms range while having a 100 Hz refresh. In other words, they aren’t totally interchangeable measures so its still something to be aware of.
Those looking for extra info on 4k:
Refresh rate = How often your TV changes the image. 60 Hz = 60 x times per second. 120Hz = 120 x times per second. It affects motion blur. Generally, the higher the number, the less motion blur.
@ Arnna – Standard refresh rates for new screens is 120Hz although there are still some 60Hz screens around. Aim for 120Hz (native). Some other things to look for:
MS = Input Lag. This is a big one and not all screens actually advertise this number.
The time it takes for the image to reach the screen from the source. My BENQ screen runs at 1MS but that is an exception. Most 4K screens are between 10-20MS. Look for lowest number possible.
Make sure your HDMI lead is at least 2.0 compliant to achieve max FPS.
No point getting 4K unless it’s a minimum of 55″ to get real benefits and ‘must’ have HDR.
The 4K screens being advertised under $1K are junk and missing a lot of features.
no such thing as a 120fps 4k screen yet
TVs use this marketing gimmick that the backlight is only going at 120hz not the actual screen
and then they say its 120hz but its not really
I had an old Samsung TV which was far too small (32″) for my failing eyesight, so I was already intending to replace it even though there was nothing particularly wrong with it. Then I got relocated to the US for my job and it made it kind of moot. Picked up a 55″ Sony 4K and couldn’t be happier with the purchase (bonus: the Sony TVs have universal power supplies so if I decide to leave my job and come back to Australia I can move the TV with me).
However that said, a 4k upgrade isn’t necessary. If you’re upgrading because you need to replace your old TV (burned out or too small or whatever) then you’d be nuts not to buy 4k, they’re available very cheap in very good quality now. But there’s not really any compelling reason to rush out and buy one just for 4k. Stuff looks very nice on a good panel, especially when the TV supports HDR as well, but the upgrade isn’t compelling the way going from standard def to HD was.
yes because
4k console and 4k TV doesnt equal around about the price of midrange computer
#ageoldarguments
I bought a 4K TV last year but didn’t do my research thoroughly so it doesn’t support HDR. Same with my amp. But I can stream Netflix 4K with no issues so happy with what I have for now.
I’m sticking with 1080p for the moment because upgrading to 4K will also involve me upgrading my receiver (It has 4K passthrough but not HDR) and probably my gaming PC as well.
I might even wait for the true next generation of consoles (PS5 / XboxTwo720XSX) before taking the plunge.
Haven’t seen games on 4K TV’s but i have seen 4K movies and they’re still not actually proper 4K. Can easily see the stretched pixels and colour banding. So I probably won’t be considering a 4K TV until more movies are actually filmed in 4K.
PS4 Pro on my 7 year old 46″ Samsung LED looks fantastic…so I’ll stick with it until it dies.
Netflix/Stan changed things a bit, but given we can’t watch the cricket or a car race in 1080p yet I don’t see the point of buying a 4K screen. Until Netflix rolled around the only source of native 1080p was bluray.
Had a similar discussion at work, when I expressed that the only reason I’d upgrade is if my current TV went pop, and I’d be quite happy for the equivalent of a 46inch or larger monitor without the TV tuner or smart bollocks built into it, most of the office agreed with me. I voluntarily watch FTA approximately 2-5 times a year, Bathurst and whatever Cricket might be on I can catch. Soon as I can stream either reliably FTA and the need for a tuner is dead to me.
4K will be an incidental inclusion, not something I actively shop for.
Took the plunge recently with a 55inch 7 series 4k hdr hisense for only $898…. after a decent amount of tuning, huuuuuuge difference. Ps4 with new Wipeout = mind blown. Then 2 weeks ago got ps4 pro to add to the equation and mind totally obliterated, hair on back of neck standing up. I regret not doing it sooner and I’m trying not to overreact with enthusiasm.
4k is my current pet hate marketing buzz word. There is very little true 4k content out there and therefore almost no reason to get one. Drives me nuts when a customer comes in asking for a 4k monitor to hook up to their office laptop or desktop.
You’re really not going to get any benefits from a 4k monitor when you’re doing nothing except use the MS Office Suite all day long…
I bought a 4k Sony tv last year in order to play PS4 Pro at 4K output. At first I just play game on the 4k TV, but then i considered to find some 4K videos to test but none of them i founded. However, this year, i found many websites like YouTube, Vimeo, Daily Motion and Metacafe provides 4K service, although some 4k movies charge and there are not many free ones.
I know many of you worry that there are not going to be enough 4k sources for you to play after buying a 4k TV. No need to think about that, you can see from this article:http://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/wr-to-dld-4k-mvs.html, in fact many websites gives 4k video downloading, and more video websites will follow i think.