From 160 YouTube Subs To Hosting Good Game: Spawn Point

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We're sitting on the set of Good Game: Spawn Point, sharing oatmeal cookies and occasionally checking a screen as a PlayStation 4 downloads Fe. I'm chatting to Gemma "Gem" Driscoll, the newest face on the show.

I asked how Gem's announcement had been handled, and despite only having met me minutes prior, the 20-year-old dropped a bomb.

"One dude who auditioned [who] didn't get it said, 'I can see I'm not a social justice warrior enough purely because I'm not a girl,' and I was like hell, OK right-yo, and that hit me pretty hard because I'm not used to any of that."

It makes sense that Gem isn't accustomed to the savagery of fandom just yet, because the born and bred Novocastrian isn't exactly a prolific social media presence. Despite initial assumptions following Steven "Bajo" O'Donnell's departure, Gem doesn't come into the role with an in-built fanbase and a profile of her own. In fact, had the Good Game auditions not worked out, she would be enrolling at university.

"Game design was one of the things I really wanted to, so I could learn how games work - so I could talk about games. So I kind of jumped the gun there," Gem said.

Amdist running a small YouTube channel - only 160 subscribers at the time of writing, with a few hundred followers on Twitter and around 1000 on Instagram - the newest Spawn Point host was working shifts at EB Games in Glendale.

She says she didn't have too many nightmare customers, although she did remember one instance many EB alumni can relate to: customers who want GTA 5 for their very clearly underage kids.

"I had a woman argue with me about GTA 5 once - I told her what was in it, and she told me I was lying," Gem said.

"She brought it up to the counter - well her kid did - and I said, 'Just so you know, it's R18+, it's recommended for kids who are over 18 years old, it's got graphic violence, there's sex scenes, there's a scene very early with people having sex with binoculars, strip clubs, swearing, torture, rape, there's stuff in there, bad stuff ...' and she's like 'I don't believe that'."

"I'm like ... it's right there on the box! It says it right there! And she said, 'That's ridiculous ... [my kid] wouldn't lie. It's a racing game.'"

Not technically inaccurate, but still. Not a bad first argument to have with a customer, though. But for the most part, Gem just enjoyed talking with customers about games, particularly kids. "There were kids and grown adults who would come in, coming into the store and getting to talk to the staff was ... their routine," she explained.

"There was one man who would come in with his carer, a bit older than me, and he would come in once every two days. We would talk about anything; he was super into Monster Hunter and Digimon, and we'd just get to talk about that for half an hour and have a chat. If I needed to go do my job, he'd let me and we'd have a chat later. It was just cool getting to talk to people, because that was sometimes - when everything got crazy, when stock was crazy, when everything was crazy, that was something you could always rely on: someone would want to talk to you about their favourite games."

It's a conversation that Gem gets to continue having - but on a much wider scale.

Part of that wider scale for Spawn Point involves covering more M-rated games, at least through their YouTube channel. It's important not just for the presenters - it gives them more options for coverage each week - but also for Spawn Point's audience, that age of kids who are in that weird middle ground.

"It frustrates me a little bit that there isn't more leniency, and it's subjective to every parent on what they want their kid to be playing. And we can't be seen pushing something that isn't going to appeal to a wider market, I guess," Gem explained.

"When you hit about 10 to 14 [years old], there's a blank gap in the market for those kinds of gamers before they hit MA15. There's this very blank slate where kids aren't really - LEGO kind of stops being entertaining around 10, for the kids that I see anyway. And then it's straight to Call of Duty. I wish there were kind of more games that were adult-ish that still manage to fit into that PG category."

One example, and something that highlights the problem of being a children's TV show on the ABC, is Terraria. The collector's edition was originally rated PG back in 2012, but was later reclassified to M in 2015.

"I can't remember if Good Game or Spawn Point reviewed that at some stage, but it got reclassified ... and now we're not really allowed to talk about that. It's kind of sad - I know heaps of kids who were really into that. I was into that for a while. It's very rigid, I think; I just wish there was more leniency for games like that, because that's what kids enjoy."

Another change is a push to produce a lot more online content, an echo back to the Good Game: Pocket days. Apart from cutting up every snippet of the show for viewing online, the team has also streamed gameplay and chats through YouTube and Facebook Live, with plans to do more throughout the year.

The new set is a big plus as well, particularly for Gem: she still lives in Newcastle and trains to the office every day, a five hour commute every day. I asked if there were plans to allow her to work from home a couple of days a week to assist reviews, although it was still early days at the time and nothing on that front had been organised.

There's a lot of peculiarities to working at the national broadcaster, especially around rated content. Shortly before our chat began, Gem asked colleagues about an upcoming AMA - she wasn't sure if she could talk about M-rated games or franchises, which was bound to come up because the majority of comments tend to come from adults.

After a quick back and forth it was eventually agreed upon: M-rated content could be mentioned, because it was going through the ABC ME Facebook page (and not television), but there needed to be a small qualifier. If Gem mentioned Mass Effect as one of her favourite franchises, she had to add that it was for older gamers, so that way parents had an easy explainer for their kids.

It was a neat little window into the world that Spawn Point actually occupies these days. Rather than being a show for kids, it's really a show about games that parents can watch with their kids. Children are still the main drawcard, naturally, and Gem has done an awful lot of thinking about what she says with that in mind.

But that doesn't mean the freshest Spawn Point face plans on diluting herself one iota. While we're talking, the PS4 continued to download Fe at a speed many gamers are familiar with: glacial.

"PSN is such trash sometimes," I quipped, looking at the download speed.

"It's such a dumpster fire," Gem agreed. "I'm loyal to PlayStation still - [although] I have no choice."

Update: Removed a reference to Dragon Ball Fighter Z regarding M-rated games, as DBFZ is a PG title (although some Dragon Ball properties, such as Dragon Ball Super are rated M). My apologies.


Comments

    Newcastrian

    err... Novocastrian?

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Novocastrian

      My bad, thanks.

        No worries. Good article by the way!

        Other city resident names are a bit of a mixed bag. I'd prefer a 'Darwinian' but apparently it's 'Darwiner'. Hobart gets 'Hobartian' (don't know if pronounced like 'Martian' or not). Adelaide gets 'Adelaidean', which is pretty cool. There are Sydneysiders (the best) of course. Melbourne can't make up its mind between 'Melburnians' and 'Melbournites'. Brisbane has the same problem but at least spells them correctly 'Brisbanian' or 'Brisbanite'. Perth? Who knows!? But they are stuck with 'Perthian' because 'perthite' is a mineral. Canberra wraps it up with 'Canberran'.

          I'm not entirely sure I've ever heard the word 'Melbournite'. Sounds like it's the Sydneysiders who can't make up their minds what we're called! Had to laugh at Hobartian/Martian... I know how I'll be pronouncing it from now on.

    Being a woman? No problem.

    Working for EB? Fine.

    Being from Newcastle? Borderline but still passable.

    Being loyal to PlayStation? Kill it! Kill it with fire!

      B-but she says she doesn't have a choice...

      It's true. No other system gives you sweet sweet trophies.

        I’ve got to say, I do love me a nice Platinum.

      Does Gran Turismo come out on PC? No? PS4 it is then (reason why I bought one a couple of months ago).

        Surely if you were a ps4 fan due to racing games you switched to xbone long ago for Forza which is now like ten million percent Superior to gt sport. Like not even in a debatable way. Gt sport is like one tenth the content. Also I'm pretty sure they work on PC too?

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    I really hope that the continuation of Spawn Point after the idiotic cancellation of Good Game is just a Trojan horse to eventually revive the main show. While I hated it at first (the early seasons are... rough), it grew into something really good and there's still nothing quite like it on TV.

    Also, as someone who's met Goose and Bajo in real life, I can confirm that they are exactly as cool as they appear to be.

      Well, the audience for Spawn Point is growing older, so it makes sense for the show to gradually cater to more mature tastes.

        Reminds of Cheese TV when photos of older folks started appearing in the fan roll.

      I met Goose while doing media stories at The Arcade in Melbourne, great guy who has time for others and always willing to help or just chat. He deserves so much more than Good Game could provide him.

    I rarely comment on these articles but subjects like this really make me want to rant.

    If you believe that social progress is a bad thing, that it is bad that women and minorities being given the opportunities to succeed where previously they were not, you seriously need to reassess your attitude.

    If you think that you have missed out on a "win", that you have been unsuccessful on any level, simply because you are white or a man, and that someone less deserving got what you deserved because they are not, you have no grounds to harass them or complain about it.

    I wont pretend that it never happens though. In media especially, it is not unreasonable for a show that has had a majority of white male leads to seek out more diverse cast members. This is not illegal. this is not unethical. this is NOT the person who DOES get the job's fault!

    If you are the kind of person who decides that harassing minorities for being employed or popular as some kind of revenge for a perceived failure is ok, you are a disgusting person. You are the reason these positive initiatives for companies to be more inclusive and diverse exist, and you have no one to blame for your failures but yourself.

      Equality feels like oppression to the privileged.

        Some people don't like positive discrimination and I get it. Missing out on something that you have worked hard for due to things like gender quotas or other forms of positive discrimination is still shitty. And you don't know the individuals circumstance so running around saying it's because they have privilege based on generalisations of their race or gender is not helpful or close to accurate. There is no solution to this either, one side will always lose out and will see it as unfair. I'm not saying positive discrimination isn't needed either, just that I understand people being upset when it takes a possible job or position from them etc.

          There is a slight solution to people getting upset about positive discrimination, but it involves empathy and shelving factionalism.

          Positive discrimination measures approach the notion of a weighted die - accretion of one-sided structural benefits over generations has created mechanisms of inequity - by applying a counterweight. The party benefiting from positive discrimination may or may not have worked harder than anyone else (indications are that yes, they have had to work harder against social and cultural challenges) to get the opportunity; with positive discrimination they get a fair look in for positions they historically would not have.

          What you've described, after saying that generalisations pertaining to privilege are unhelpful, is that people will get upset because they're position of relative privilege is perceived as diminished by the implementation of positive discrimination measures. The elephant in the room can't be avoided.

            Sure. I'm 100% clear on what positive discrimination is attempting to do and how it works. But it's still a huge generalization. It isn't like, fact based privilaged checking of an individual circumstances.

            Last edited 03/04/18 10:59 am

    I don't really get the point of shows like this anymore.

    Why not just sub to Aussie YT channels like Laymen Gaming and get daily shows/updates/memes?

    Good game was pretty good when it first started... but haven't we moved on?

      As viewers... yes
      As commentators in the internet... no

        Ha. Too true.

        Kotaku is basically a forum anyway. I'd be interested to know what Gizmodo's traffic is like now that the comments have been shut down?

        :)

          It's having one of its best years ever

            Wow. That's a massive surprise. Campbell is excellent though and has added a lot to Giz for sure.

    haha I applied for that job, my 16k subs clearly didn't come in handy :( hahah nah congrats

      Probably similar viewer numbers to what the abc gets anyway, haha.

    "Part of that wider scale for Spawn Point involves covering more M-rated games,"

    Sorry, WHAT? They canned GG, keep GGSP, the spinoff meant for PG and G games for a younger group, and then they go and put M games in it? WTF are people thinking? That's just stupid.

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