Warcraft 3 Remaster Launches Next Year

42 responses to “Warcraft 3 Remaster Launches Next Year”

1. 

   niomo

   November 3, 2018 at 6:39 am

   ZUG ZUG

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   ruddaga

   November 3, 2018 at 6:44 am

   The excitement and surprise of this announcement.. was soon crushed by the shock and disbelief that they’re doing a new Diablo game and it’s a mobile game -_-

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      weresmurf

      November 3, 2018 at 11:42 am

      I thought you were kidding…

      A quick google search later…

      What the fuck were they thinking…

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         weeeez

         November 4, 2018 at 12:33 am

         It’ll definitely please the asian countries

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      Jack H

      November 11, 2018 at 5:48 am

      Am I the only one who is not upset by this? They also said diablo 4 is coming, just a later date. I mean maybe it’s that I’m on the go a decent amount of time, but if it’s close to as good Hearthstone, I’m not upset.

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         ruddaga

         November 12, 2018 at 3:19 pm

         To clarify (for what is probably the 100000th time on the internet) fans are not pissed about the mobile Diablo nor the fact they’re working on D4 separately. They are pissed off because Blizzard’s climax and finale to their opening ceremony, in front of some of their most hard core fans (who paid hundreds and maybe thousands to fly / stay / attend the conference) who would be made up of 99% PC gamers; they decided to announce a mobile version of one of their IP’s.

         You need to think of it from these fans point of view. I was one of the fans who paid 80.00 AUD to watch the stream live and I was up at 5 am watching it and I was in absolute shock when I saw this. I honestly thought it was an out of season April fools joke. The fact Blizzard just expected their fan base to lap this up and be happy with it, and then their reactions to the shock, booing and general fan response afterwards still shocks me.

         Do I think Immortal will be a good mobile experience? Probably. Even though it’s being made out of house by a cheap chinese mobile company, it’s unlike Blizzard to put their name on something that will be bad. But I’m disappointed that Blizzard has turned into this money obsessed corporation which just looks for the next easiest way to make money and please their shareholders. The comments afterwards of “Fan reaction was muted but the majority of fans are excited and happy” is a blatent lie to try and fix the HUGE dive their stocks have taken. I think people are (at least I am) shocked that no one at Blizzard expected this reaction. It shows they are really out of touch with their fan base and it things continue like this, it worries me as a Blizzard fan.

         Hopefully this shock is a the snap back to reality they need. They can’t keep coasting on the good will of what the founders of Blizzard built for 2 decades…. It is drying up and if they keep pushing with this current direction (Then afterwards announcing plans to bring all their IP’s to mobile -_- ) then they will continue to lose fans and support until there are none left. Hard to imagine maybe but it’s happened before.

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   kritter5x

   November 3, 2018 at 7:44 am

   Love how they remade the opening cinematic. I want to see a side by side comparison. Hope they’re planning on remaking all the cinematics from the original game.

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      amstradhero

      November 4, 2018 at 12:05 am

      So watching the opening cinematic, my primary thoughts were: “What did they do to remake it? The only difference I could notice was that the made the heads of the orc and the infernal look dumb.”

      Then I went and watched the original trailer and saw how block and low res it was. My brain had just upscaled it to modern resolutions in-post over time. I still think the orc and infernal heads look a bit stupid, but damn, they sure made it look pretty by comparison when you look at clips of the original video.

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         kritter5x

         November 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm

         Yeah I did the exact same thing. In my head it was the same to the point where I was sure they just upscaled the old video, then I went and watched the old one and saw just how different it was.

         Rose tinted spectacles and all that.

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   simocrates

   November 3, 2018 at 8:19 am

   Warcraft 3 still holds up on modern PCs. They should have remade Warcraft and Warcraft 2. Pretty underwhelming Blizzcon.

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      thyco

      November 3, 2018 at 8:48 am

      this remaster is fucking awesome but i know one other game that would of been even better especially compared to what we got.

      Diablo 2.

      Also i think someone needs to check on Alex to see if he is still alive because he hasnt posted anything about the travesty that was announced

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         rowan

         November 3, 2018 at 10:49 am

         Yeah. That’s the one I wanted as well. D2 would be great.

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         weresmurf

         November 3, 2018 at 11:43 am

         Indeed. But personally I wouldn’t want a 3d Diablo 2, I just want a totally HD update to all the sprites, I feel something would be lost if it went 3d like part 3?

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            thyco

            November 3, 2018 at 11:55 am

            dont have to do much for a d2 remaster, just give it more resolutions and bigger viewing area while porting over to battle.net for the social features

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               weresmurf

               November 3, 2018 at 11:58 am

               Update the sprites of course, make them HD, they run a maximum of 800×600 I think now and don’t look too great in higher resolutions. Remaster the audio as well. But I do think a D2 remaster would sell like friggin hotcakes.

               When we launched Diablo 2 way back when, when I worked at a shop called Games R Us in Brisbane, it was one of the biggest game launches we ever had.

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               skrybe

               November 3, 2018 at 6:11 pm

               Yeah they look like ass when you run it on a 4k screen 🙁

               D2 definitely needs a graphical overhaul if it’s going to be updated.

               The WC3 remaster looks pretty good from the trailer. Especially if we get an updated editor. That would be terrific.

            3. 

               transientmind

               November 3, 2018 at 11:13 pm

               Diablo 2 cost me a few points on my GPA for sure.

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               weresmurf

               November 4, 2018 at 10:37 am

               Now, I’m not gonna say ARK did that for me?

               But 6.4 down to 5.6 because of 2400 hours over a year and a bit says something… lol

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      gung-ho

      November 3, 2018 at 10:10 am

      They should have made a Warcraft the Trilogy Remastered. The whole thing, up to date and in particular for 1 and 2, up to date game play.

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         cffndncr

         November 6, 2018 at 7:00 am

         I think they chose the right game to remaster. I replayed WC2 recently, and while I love the shit out of WC1 + 2 and they will hold a special place in my heart forever, I don’t think they were the right games to remaster.

         On the plus side, it probably wouldn’t be that much work to recreate the original 2 games in the remastered WC3 engine, particularly if their map editor is half decent (which I have no doubt it will be). Better to start with the more complicated game and work backwards.

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            gung-ho

            November 7, 2018 at 11:58 am

            See, I was thinking more about the story experience. Whilst many would remember what happens in WC3, many would either have forgotten or never experienced WC1/2. Combine the relatively “fresh” story experience of WC1/2 with new game play and you get something much closer to a new game rather than remastered. Think reimagined rather than remastered and would be more than only a graphics update which I’m sure WC3: Reforged is going to be (even if WC3:R did update the game play, it wouldn’t require as much work as 1 and 2).

            I guess that would take more effort and money though so from a cash cow perspective, yeah WC3 is the game to do.

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               cffndncr

               November 7, 2018 at 10:13 pm

               On the plus side, if fans don’t do it first then I can definitely see Blizzard releasing the first 2 games as free campaigns within WC3:R in the not-too-distant future

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   mase

   November 3, 2018 at 9:07 am

   I was happy to see this… then I saw the local pricing. $44.95 for a standard edition, and then there is a $59.95 deluxe edition with a few extra things for other games.

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      rowan

      November 3, 2018 at 10:50 am

      Well. I’ll be waiting for a sale then.

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         gung-ho

         November 7, 2018 at 11:59 am

         You’ll be waiting for a long time – Blizzard sales are rare.

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            rowan

            November 7, 2018 at 1:19 pm

            They have sales all the time??? Or at least several a year. I can’t remember playing full price for anything except the starcraft remaster.

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            1. 

               ruddaga

               November 12, 2018 at 3:23 pm

               Eventually they have sales. But on their new releases they rarely do for a year or 2.

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      soldant

      November 3, 2018 at 1:17 pm

      Well. Shit. That’s disappointing.

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   3. 

      djbear

      November 3, 2018 at 9:39 pm

      This is a full on remaster though with a new game engine. Not just an upscale. People have put time and effort into this.

      <$50 for this is a great price.

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         sielinth

         November 4, 2018 at 10:26 am

         just to clarify, it’s the same engine (WC3 original and reforge can play together)

         but everything is being redone (VO, cinematics). also something not clear (to me at least) is that this is both WC3 and Frozen Throne (the expansion) just like SC1… which is no small undertaking

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   Linxus

   November 3, 2018 at 9:12 am

   Australian pricing is coming up as $44.95 in the BattleNet client – so roughly the same price with currency conversion (41.54 at time of writing)

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   slipp3r

   November 3, 2018 at 10:32 am

   This is cool, but would prefer WC2

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   caser

   November 3, 2018 at 1:26 pm

   They’ll probably have a lot more scope to improve and fix the game than they did with the Starcraft remaster since with that they had to preserve every single thing about Starcraft down to the last microscopic glitch or else the fan base would have rejected it entirely.

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   illexi

   November 3, 2018 at 1:55 pm

   i will be waiting probably to get it on sale or at least till i have a games drought, but damn i cant wait for some custom map shenanigans this time maybe i will actually be able to host games unlike last time.

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    ody

    November 3, 2018 at 6:14 pm

    I personally want a Diablo II remaster so I can finally play it. I’ve played some old games, such as System Shock 2 and Duke Nukem 3D, because they’re still great despite their age, and I really enjoyed them, but damn D2 is just a bit too dusty for me when I tried to get into it.

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       deoff

       November 4, 2018 at 10:22 am

       Unfortunately they’ve admitted a D2 remaster is all but impossible. It would have to be a complete remake.
       The way D2 works relies too much on cool tricks of the time that completely break if you try to pretty up the game for modern machines/screens using the same engine.

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          weresmurf

          November 4, 2018 at 10:38 am

          Damn, I legit had no idea the production on it was that sketchy?

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             deoff

             November 4, 2018 at 6:43 pm

             I wouldn’t call it sketchy so much as a lot of the development probably went along the lines of “I found a cool way to make this work” and there wasn’t much consideration given to what would happen if they had to use those tricks in with a screen resolution that pretty much didn’t exist at the time.

             from the co-founder of Blizzard:
             “A lot of the ways that the AI and stuff activates is from off-screen,” he said, noting that “if they were going to keep the same radius of awareness, you would get a whole bunch of [monsters] on the edge of the screen just kind of like, ‘[I’m] getting ready to do something here!’” However, Brevik explained that if you alter the radius, “then everything’s coming from different angles and at different speeds and doing different things than you’re used to and the way it’s run.”
             So a lot of fundamental things were almost reliant on tech constraints at the time and changing any of them has an enormous domino affect on the rest of the game, resulting in almost as much coding and redesign effort for a remaster as would be needed for a remake anyway.

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                weresmurf

                November 4, 2018 at 8:15 pm

                This most definitely explains why there was no decent resolution upgrade that worked well… yeah I didn’t mean sketchy as in dodgy, I just meant as in ‘out of the ordinary’ as such 🙂

11. 

    friedant

    November 6, 2018 at 10:32 am

    May I have DOTA mod for this please?

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       cffndncr

       November 7, 2018 at 10:16 pm

       I’m sure it will happen, but it will never be as good as AllStars. Everyone’s playing Dota 2 now, which has a much more suitable engine, and Blizzard wants you to play HOTS rather than recreating a competitor’s game within theirs.

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          friedant

          November 8, 2018 at 11:01 am

          Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if the mod side of things is locked. I am just old now so I don’t have time to keep on top of a game with new hero’s, tactics and changing Meta’s

          I am more about fun times with friends in a casual environment.

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