Déjà Poo: Nintendo Deletes Another Mario Maker Level By Popular Speedrunner

Screenshot: GrandPOOBear, YouTube

A popular Mario speedrunner and Mario Maker level creator said Tuesday morning that Nintendo is once again deleting his Mario Maker levels, this time targeting his popular Super Expert course in Super Mario Maker 2 for the Switch, called “Pile of Poo: Kai-Zero G.”

“I am at a loss for words and extremely sad about this,” said the creator, David “GrandPOOBear” Hunt, in a Twitter thread.

Hunt is well known in the Mario Maker community for his streaming, speedrunning, and creating some of the series’ most challenging levels. Kai-Zero G is one of those. Part of a tradition of “Kaizo” levels that are known for being incredibly difficult and breaking the normal rules associated with official Mario levels, Kai-Zero G is set in Mario Maker 2's new low-gravity setting, forcing players to make meticulously-timed jumps, catches, and throws, generally while slowly falling into an open pit.

It blew up in Super Mario Maker 2 shortly after Hunt released it, with videos of other people playing it garnering hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube. Now the level is gone, and he has no idea why.

According to a screenshot Hunt shared of an email from Nintendo he received earlier today, the course violated a prohibition on “inappropriate and/or harmful” content. But Hunt says there was nothing offensive in the level that he can think of. “It contained no inappropriate words, pictures, etc. It contained no glitches,” he said on Twitter.

He also believes that the problem does not lie with the word “Poo” in his online alias or in the level’s title. “’I’ve been told specifically by people at Nintendo that it’s not due to my name being Poo multiple times,” he said on Twitter, noting that the “Poo” part of his handle comes from a character in the game EarthBound. (Additionally, Hunt’s display name is simply “GPB” in Mario Maker 2.)

That said, the phrasing “Pile of Poo” in the level’s title is certainly suggestive of something other than a fan-favourite EarthBound character, which might have triggered Nintendo’s famously opaque moderation regardless of what Hunt has been told in the past.

One person on Twitter suggested that it might be the result of other players erroneously reporting Kai-Zero G, rather than Nintendo targeting it specifically. Hunt called that “the most likely scenario,” although it doesn’t change the fact that the level is now gone. A Mario Maker 2 level that Nintendo boots from the servers cannot be re-uploaded, even if the creator makes changes to it. While he could rebuild it from scratch, he’s not sure it’s worth the effort, considering Nintendo might delete it all over again.

This isn’t the first time Nintendo has deleted Hunt’s levels. Back in 2016 the company deleted all of Hunt’s levels in the first Mario Maker, a body of work that cumulatively took him over 100 hours to construct.

At that time, it did not tell him why it deleted the levels. At the time, Hunt told Kotaku that he felt like Nintendo was going after him specifically for having called out some of Nintendo’s policies with regard to the Mario Maker community. Nintendo, at that time, did not respond to Kotaku’s request for comment.

While the email that Hunt received from Nintendo said the decision about removing Kai-Zero G was final, Hunt has attempted to appeal to the President of Nintendo of America, Doug Bowser, on Twitter for help on reversing the decision.

“if there is something that Nintendo could point me too that caused this, I would gladly fix that given the opportunity,” Hunt said. “But it keeps happening despite me following their rule sets. I don’t know. I don’t want to create this conspiracy around me and Nintendo but it’s starting to feel that way.

Nintendo did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Hunt was reached for comment by Kotaku but was unable to provide further details beyond what he had already shared via Twitter.


Comments

    Pile of Poo

    Why is my stuff being deleted?

      Mario Maker is aimed at kids, kids love poo jokes, what's the issue here?

      Manufactured outrage/offence/drama entity for publicity and attention.

        I'm not sure Nintendo needs publicity and attention.

          My comment was directed towards GrandPOOBear the guy who is pretending to be a victim.

            Conjecture at best

              I look at it the same (principally) as that steam game that was named "Rape Game" or "Simulator" that rightly got banned, they knew it would cause drama and bring publicity same as this guy and the way he named his level.

              GrandPOOBear: Makes level calls it Pile Of Poo

              Nintendo: Deletes level

              GrandPOOBear: Suprised Pikachu face

            I don't think he's pretending, but I don't think he's right either.
            He's deadset that previous conversations with Nintendo have made it clear that "Poo" is okay to use in any context. Given his username is GPB, I feel like any intern at Nintendo in charge of moderation might not recognise the initials and would think "well that's a bit crude" and give it the boot.

            I doubt this is a play for publicity. He's not that kind of guy, and he's already one of the biggest fish in his pond.

              He says "’I’ve been told specifically by people at Nintendo that it’s not due to my name being Poo multiple times", which I think is where the problem lies. Nintendo told him it wasn't about his name including 'poo', and he's erroneously taken that to mean he can include the word 'poo' however he likes in map titles.

              I don't think it's for publicity, but I could easily see it as trying to save face with his fans and shift the blame. That or he's genuinely not smart enough to realise the difference between 'GrandPooBear' and 'Pile of Poo'. 'Inconsistent intern' rates below both of those, in my limited view of the situation.

                That's what I meant about him not being right. I do believe the problem is in the "pile of poo" name, but he's pretty indignant about it not being the case.
                I guess we'll see when Nintendo eventually replies to him, all the more likely now that's he's featured on Kotaku again.

    Maybe it's punishment for hard locking his opponent's NES during the SMB3 race at SGDQ last year.

    Levels like this ruin Mario Maker for the majority of people. I would buy Mario Maker 2 if it wasn't for an abundance of these troll levels.

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