Cross-Play Might Finally Be Fully Available On The PS4

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Gamers and developers have been privately and publicly screaming at Sony for years to open the cross-play floodgates to their platform. Finally, that battle might be over.

Sony CEO Jim Ryan gave an interview to Wired earlier this week, and for the most part the discussion centred on cloud gaming and Sony's best service that still isn't available in Australia, PlayStation Now.

PlayStation Now is a big deal, not only because it gives users a way to play the PS3's excellent back catalogue that won't work natively on the PS4, but also because it's currently one of the best responses Sony has to Microsoft's growing Xbox Game Pass library.

But as good as that is, something gamers have been screaming for more is universal cross-play. Fortnite helped drag most of the major players to the table, and while Sony opened the door early on when Rocket League first launched as a PS+ free game, the company began adopting an increasingly obtuse approach. The stubbornness reached its zenith in 2017, when Jim Ryan (then the head of global sales and marketing for PlayStation) told Eurogamer that crossplay was a "commercial discussion" and he raised concerns about exposing children "to external influences":

Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully.

It wasn't Sony's best moment, and Xbox's Phil Spencer neatly hit the nail on the head in a Giant Bomb interview by musing out loud about why a platform holder would even suggest such a thing. "The fact that somebody would kind of make an assertion that somehow we’re not keeping Minecraft players safe, I found — not only from a Microsoft perspective, but from a game industry perspective — like, I don’t know why that has to become the dialogue. Like, that doesn’t seem healthy for anyone," he said.

That was in 2017. As Fortnite continued to become a global juggernaut, and Sony's stance looked increasingly stupid because families in particular were moving to other platforms because it was the only way they could all play together, the company began to relent. The company announced an open beta for the service in September 2018, saying that they would announce more on "other titles going forward". Sony themselves were fairly quiet since, with developers instead taking public potshots at the platform for still being stubborn about it all.

"We made many requests for crossplay (both through our account manager and directly with higher ups) all the way up until release month ... we were told in no uncertain terms that it was not going to happen," the chief executive of Wargroove's creators Chucklefish, Finn Brice, said in April this year.

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The problem isn't technological, but one of policy. Sony didn't want to relent its position as the champion platform of this generation, and it mirrors moves back in the PS3/360 era when Microsoft shut down similar experiments. But as everyone else has come on board, it seems Sony is finally there too. In that same PlayStation Now discussion with Wired, the company writes that PS4's cross-play support has officially moved out of beta, although Sony isn't making a big deal about it:

Which makes growth the magic word—and which is why PlayStation Now improvements aren't even the only move Sony is making, despite handily winning the sales battle this console generation. While it's not announcing the news explicitly, the PS4's cross-play efforts have officially moved out of the beta stage, meaning that the console can support cross-play on any titles that studios provide the functionality for. This month's Modern Warfare may be the first major title to take advantage of it at launch, and likely won't be the last.

Jim Ryan goes on to say that incumbents don't usually win back-to-back console generations. Having universal cross-play, particularly as more games are now developed with mobiles and other platforms in mind, makes sense in a world where Sony's business is increasingly dependent on a strong and prosperous PlayStation platform. Plus, literally every gamer has been demanding Sony add cross-play since the feature became public knowledge.

I reached out to Sony Australia for comment, as well as a clarification on the status of PlayStation Now in Australia. I personally wouldn't expect to see the latter become available until next year — the service still doesn't have the amount of local data centres to make it worth it, and it'll take another year or two for Sony's strategic partnership with Microsoft and Microsoft Azure to fully get going.


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    Gonna hazard a guess Sony's hedging their bets over the relative strength of their dominance for the next console generation.

    Microsoft would have to be suicidally inept to repeat the same mistakes they made with the xbone vs PS4, Sony can't keep relying on winning off Microsoft own goals.

    Ah, the sin of ‘“literally every gamer”. This particular gamer considers crossplay, much like the earlier changing IDs, to be a complete non issue.

    The wording in the paragraph regarding Microsoft in the 360 era could be misleading because Sony was doing crossplay with PC, and indeed still is. Heck, Sony was doing crossplay back in the PS2 era.

    Of course, after blocking it as much as they could previously, the moment they acquired Minecraft, MS decided Crossplay was the Greatest Thing Evah! So I’m not particularly impressed by their fake indignity.

    Now if Actizzard has progression carry over between their games on different systems, then I’d be pleasantly surprised. Why would I care about playing across platforms if I have to start again each time?

    Which is why the cross save for Divinity on Steam / Switch is far more of a game changer than crossplay ever will be.

      One thing at a time. The crossplay battle has only just been won. Cross saves should hopefully come next. Although that will be very very interesting, as consoles have been rather paranoid about save data, especially as they are often a vector for hacking.

      I mean everyone knows microsoft were dicks about it back in the day, then, i guess rightfully so, Sony played the dick themselves.

      Sony claimed it wasn't safe for their customers to mix with other player bases which is stupid. I think maybe Microsoft used the excuse that their online was better, which while true, was also stupid. Both were thinly veiled excuses that really meant : we're winning this race, we want to crush them even more by forcing people to buy one of our consoles to play with their friends.

      I mean i don't know about progression over different systems but are you being wilfully ignorant of the fact that say, i for example have an xbone, and have many friends that play apex, destiny and more on ps4, and in this day and age where online is very stable and settled, it would be nice to be able to play with them? It would also widen everyones playerbase considerably.

      And no the cross save won't be anywhere near as big a game changer, that's certainly nice to have for those lucky enough to own a nice pc and current gen console, but that's a much smaller group i would think.

        The progression comment refers to the issue with Overwatch that it doesn’t keep your progress between console and PC. So even if you’ve got hundreds of hours logged on PC, and the associated skins, emotes, sprays etc unlocked... you get to start all over again! Which is why my PS4 copy remains unplaced once I found that out.

        As someone who doesn’t play (or care) about any of those multiplayer titles, and neither does my extended circles, it’s a non issue. So while you care about all those games, and being able to cross play, it’s not even on my radar as something of importance.

        Having a single player game start on one system and being able to play it on a completely unrelated system? That to me is interesting. So it comes back down to the fallacy of ‘literally every gamer.’

        Which isn’t intended to diminish its importance to you, or that you might not care at all about being able to split hundreds of hours of a single player game between different companies systems and maintain the same save game.

        So by getting the crossplay, good for you! Which is intended to be read in all sincerity. ^^b

          I also think that cross save would be pretty cool if i stop and consider it. Even playing something with better performance on the xbone than the switch ( read : everything lol ) on my tv, and then taking that save and continuing in a portable fashion on my switch, would be cool. Obviously I'm just hanging on crossplay as i chose to continue with xbox to play with my brother, but 90 percent of people i know have a ps4, and i have no allegiance to either, i may just get a ps5 if the games woo me next year. In terms of exclusives, yeh I would have much preferred a ps4 this gen sadly, but i was determined to see it thru.

          Sorry for the grumbles to you earlier, i must admit i haven't had the best of days. Game on

    I wonder if we will be able to shareplay an Xbone game on the PS4 once the crossplay dust settles? This really is the only reason I would want the two console universes to mingle TBH. I mean I could buy an Xbone but meh.....I think I'll just save for the PSV launch instead.

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