Former White House Press Secretary Blames China After Getting Bamboozled Over Bootleg PS4 Controller

10 responses to “Former White House Press Secretary Blames China After Getting Bamboozled Over Bootleg PS4 Controller”

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   Hahahrha

   April 20, 2020 at 9:44 am

   Hehehe. My P4 controller doesn’t work with my PS4!

   …That’s because it only works with a P4, not a PS4. Lol

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   namiwakiru

   April 20, 2020 at 11:33 am

   The idiot could easily afford a legitimate controller too.

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   almightysparrow

   April 20, 2020 at 11:45 am

   Fleischer, a piece of shit who directly contributed to the lies and misdirection that have led to millions of deaths in Iraq

   Might need a long hard think about that, I guess “hundreds of thousands” or “Almost a million” doesn’t have the same impact even though it’s more far more accurate.

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      angorafish

      April 20, 2020 at 1:17 pm

      I’m all for accuracy in such things, and obviously the author is using hyperbole to make the article more entertaining (just like every tweet is an ‘outrage’ once it appears in a headline) but ‘millions’ is not an inherently implausible figure if all the Iraq War’s flow-on effects are included, including general destabilisation in the Middle East and the rise of ISIS, including in Syria. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of deaths directly attributable to destroyed and inaccessible public infrastructure such as hospitals, primary healthcare, sanitation, clean water and transportation networks.

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   almightysparrow

   April 20, 2020 at 7:56 pm

   @angorafish A study done on the very issue said around 800,000 (with an inaccuracy of 20%-40% mainly because of poor record keeping) died from the very things you stated as well as the war.

   Iraq body count is probably one of the only reliable sources on the issue as they are the only ones keeping track and even they don’t top 1 million as a result of the war.

   We shouldn’t conflate deaths that would have otherwise occurred like terrorist bombings and general poor health care (which lowered significantly since the first Iraq War) with deaths that can be attributed directly either through violence or loss of important infrastructure like hospitals and sanitation.

   As for Syria the destabilization of the region contributed some what but if your going too lay blame for that as a result of the Iraq War you might as well blame Russia as well for invading Afghanistan before.

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      angorafish

      May 6, 2020 at 3:34 pm

      We shouldn’t conflate deaths that would have otherwise occurred like terrorist bombings and general poor health care (which lowered significantly since the first Iraq War) with deaths that can be attributed directly either through violence or loss of important infrastructure like hospitals and sanitation.

      Why not? If people are dying who would not otherwise have died there’s an obvious correlation. We don’t need legal or scientific levels of certainty to establish a probable link. Epidemiologists use this kind of data all the time.

      Right now, in fact, we are seeing increasing evidence that average death rates as a result of CORVID-19 are vasly higher than simply deaths of people who actually have the disease. These include people such as someone who may have had a heart attack but fails to seek medical help because they are scared to visit the emergency room out of fear of catching CORVID.

      Either way people are duying who wouldn’t otherwise have died. You can’t just put out a blanket assertion that “we shouldn’t” do something and expect that to get you anywhere in a debate, because, reasons?

      And it’s really irrelevant whether other causes also contributed to the situation, just like it’s largely irrelevant that someone dies of a heart attack because of a combination of obesity, high blood pressure and smoking because removing any single one of those from the equation might have been enough to avoid the heart attack entirely.

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      1. 

         almightysparrow

         May 7, 2020 at 7:28 am

         Becuase there is no correlation when the death is a result of an attack between Sunni and Shia, like a car bomb or suicide attack, which many deaths through violence have occurred before during and after the war.

         If however the main target of an attack is U.S forces via car bomb for example and innocent bystanders are killed as well you can argue a correlation, as in those people certainty would have not died that day if the car bomb hadn’t been used to attack the U.S troops.

         My main argument from the start was, even if you attribute deaths that occurred as a result of the war even if those deaths can only be attributed loosely you don’t have “millions” not even one million

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            angorafish

            May 7, 2020 at 11:06 am

            Well, we are not completely in disagreement. I am familiar with the sites and figures that you have mentioned, which is why I noted accuracy and hyperbole in my first message and didn’t just disagree with you outright.

            All I noted was the figure was not completely implausible, something I think is pretty easy to establish if you take a broad rather than narrow view of the context.

            And the sites you have mentioned all take the approach that the data behind every single death must be so completely beyond reproach that it’s defensible against an army of denialists. Unless you are an actual denialist, in which case nothing I can say will budge your opinion one iota, we are not bound by the same narrow, minimalist approach for the purpose of a broad brush discussion on a computer gaming blog.

            I do find it interesting that you picked this particular element of hyperbole to criticise on a website that is literally full of examples of hyperbole every day, but perhaps that is a discussion for another time.

            And apologies for the necro thread. It appears that your last comment was in moderation until yesterday.

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            1. 

               almightysparrow

               May 7, 2020 at 3:41 pm

               Main reason I took issue with the comment made by the author is that it’s irrelevant and adds nothing to story even if it was more accurate in my understanding I would of still took issue with it.

               In particular annoyed me becuase I was a senior in high school when the Bush administrations war in Iraq began and it was a talking point in my philosophy class for a whole year, so yeah I kind of pique up when it’s brought up.

               But yeah this site is full of this kind of stuff all the time, my reply was in moderation becuase I edited it to @ you, it somehow became a new comment instead of a reply.

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         almightysparrow

         May 7, 2020 at 7:32 am

         As for the covid you are correct, it’s looking like the fear and isolation is going to kill a lot of people, as well as a projected 100-150 million people as a result of starvation.

         However if we didn’t take the measures that we did could there have been more or equal deaths, I guess we will find out in time.

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