It Actually Really, Really Sucks That TV's Iron Fist Is White

It Actually Really, Really Sucks That TV's Iron Fist Is White

Last week, white actor Finn Jones (best known as Loras Tyrell on Game of Thrones) was cast as Danny Rand, the white comic book character who becomes Marvel's martial arts superhero Iron Fist. In terms of bringing the original character to life on screen, it was an accurate choice. But for many it was an upsetting choice, and guess what? They have every right to feel that way. Those people who know why they are upset, and angry, and disappointed need no justification for the way they feel, especially from me. But I have seen far too many people call Marvel's Iron Fist casting decision a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation, where they're weighing both sides as if they were equally valid.

They aren't. Yes, it's true that the comics character Iron Fist is white, and thus it is indeed technically accurate for a white guy to play the role on TV. But technical accuracy does not equate "the right thing", for lack of a better term. Because as with so many superheroes, there is nothing about the character of Iron Fist that requires him to be played by a white person. Nothing. It is fundamental to no aspect of his personality, his origin, his powers.

In fact, Iron Fist is unique among Marvel's other superheroes that have made the leap to live-action in that making him, say, an Asian-American would have unequivocally improved him. Why? Because Iron Fist never should have been white in the first place.

Ever since his comics debut in 1974, Danny Rand has been a rich white kid who happens across the mystical city of K'un L'un, gets taught martial arts, and of course turns out to be better at them than any of the natives. His preternatural talent allows him to defeat the dragon Shou-Lun, which gives him the mystic power of the Iron Fist — at which point Danny immediately leaves to be a superhero in America, because why would he stick around in K'un L'un?

His character was, and is, an appropriation of Asian culture — no different from American Ninja, Shogun, The Karate Kid, The Last Samurai, and all the other movies/comics/stories where a white guy discovers a foreign culture, learns its ways, and becomes better at it than the people born into it. It is both crappy and a cliché, and one that still gets used too often.

This obviously wasn't considered a problem in the '70s, but it sure as hell is a problem now. And it would have been easily rectified by casting an Asian-American (or even an Asian non-American) in the role of Danny Rand. How perfect would it be if Danny Rand was looking to reclaim his Asian heritage, instead of taking it from others? Besides being more culturally sensitive, it's narratively much more powerful if the character Danny Rand has an authentic bond with the setting of his origin story, as opposed to merely co-opting it. So not only would a non-white Iron Fist have increased diversity and fixed an problem inherent in the character, but this change could have arguably made Iron Fist a better character.

So let's not pretend that Marvel faced with an impossible dilemma here. Marvel wasn't "damned if they did, damned if they didn't". The company had the chance to increase the diversity of its live-action universe and its multitude of media projects, and to rectify a problematic character created to co-opt another culture. There was an opportunity here, and you absolutely shouldn't feel bad for Marvel that the company didn't take it. Marvel also had the chance to cast a non-white actor to play Dr Strange, because there was literally no reason his character needed to be white. (In fact, there's an argument to be made that the comic book Strange actually was Asian, since he was portrayed as such by luminary comic artists like Steve Ditko.) Marvel passed on that opportunity, too.

Why? Besides racists, there's only one group of people who had an emotional stake in keeping Danny Rand a white guy, and that's the small group of die-hard Iron Fist fans for whom changing anything would be a betrayal of the highest order. However much they might have complained, they would all have absolutely watched an Iron Fist TV show anyway — and let's not pretend that Marvel is in the business of satisfying fans over mass audiences. There's no way Finn Jones was cast solely to appease comic fans. Instead I'm sure Marvel thought that a white star would attract the widest audience. And maybe Marvel is correct in this.

But again, that doesn't mean it's the right thing. If Marvel Studios was actually committed to diversity — really committed, not just "taking 10 full years to give us a movie with a non-white lead, and god knows how much longer for a movie with a woman as the star" committed — then it would take at least one of the multitude of additional opportunities it's had to increase its diversity.

Diversity isn't a quota, or it shouldn't be. It's 2016. Diversity should be the goal. It something to companies like Marvel to constantly consider and to strive for, and for us fans to ask for.

With Iron Fist, Marvel had an opportunity — a golden opportunity — not only to increase the diversity that it claims is so important, but to update a character who was created in a less sensitive time to one who makes sense in the 21st century, too. It chose not to take that opportunity — the easiest, most natural opportunity that Marvel Studios will likely ever have to recast one of its infinite stock of white male heroes as someone else. It chose to perpetuate the problem, instead of helping to fix it.

So don't feel bad for Marvel and its "impossible choice". There was very clearly a right choice here, and Marvel didn't make it. Be upset. Let them know. And don't let them forget it.

Originally posted on Gizmodo.


    That is pretty racist on both fronts.
    a) A martial artist should be played by an Asian
    b) A white guy can't play a martial artist

      Good point, hadn't thought of that. Personally, I think adding diversity for the sake of diversity isn't real diversity. It should purely boil down to whichever actor has the strongest presence and connection to the character in their audition.

      Hell, they could have had anyone - Caucasian, asian, african, middle eastern, aboriginal - doesn't matter as long as they pick the best actor for the part.

        Quite a weird coincidence, don't you think, that asian, african, middle eastern and aboriginal actors almost never have the presence and connection to character that white people do?

        I guess it's just something in white people's genes that makes them inherently better actors, eh?

          I didn't say that. I'm not naive enough to think it's the way it works, just the way I think it should.

            Well yes, that's the way it should work. But it doesn't right now, so diversity does have to be a conscious choice over "default white."

              Except 'default white' is actually who the character was originally designed to be.

              If this was a new character, sure....go nuts. But the character WAS white.

          It's more a numbers game than anything else. There are more white actors in Hollywood, definitely. The white actors who get movie roles are probably less than 1% of the total number of white actors in the industry; and that is just the majority race in Hollywood. When you have black actors at something like 13% of the Oscar nominations (pretty close to the percentage of black people in America... that's interesting.), you have an even smaller fraction of potentially "good" or movie-level actors to choose from. That's before vetoing them based on things like age, build, looks, specific acting qualities, schedules, etc. In the end you have a tiny tiny fraction of actors to choose from in every role you pick.

          White actors get the roles because there are just way more of them.

          You could argue that there's less actors of those other races in Hollywood because of racism / sexism / societal conditioning but to do so you'd need to deconstruct almost every single discursive construct that is responsible for the world around us to find the smoking gun. Even then you still can't view any one thing in isolation and say "Here it is guys, the reason for racism or in this case, perceived racism!"

            I'm a little unclear what you're arguing, other than that 98.6% of all statistics are made up.

            You say that whites are "just the majority race in Hollywood", and yet whites only made up 49.8% of the Los Angeles population in 2010 (Asians made up 11.3%).

            I don't have any accurate statistics on the racial composition of aspiring and career actors in the LA area, although I expect that you don't either. It appears you are simply assuming that because the majority of actors you see in Hollywood movies are white, that the majority of all actors are also white, a completely circular argument.

            Your argument about age, build, etc. is also fallacious. There is no reason why white actors would be more likely to share these particular qualities than any other racial background. Asian actors would therefore pass through those filters in roughly the same proportion as in the broader population unless, again, whites happen to be particularly "gifted" in these particular qualities.

            The presence of discrimination (which may be structural and unconscious) is proven, prima facie, by the very fact that one particular group is vastly over-represented in a field of endeavour. The onus thereafter falls on those arguing that there is no bias to explain how this isn’t, in fact, due to bias despite all appearances to the contrary.


              "In fact, as our analysis of film casts and awards shows, the number of black actors winning Oscars in this century has been pretty much in line with the size of America's overall black population."

              There's your stats on the break up of the races. It goes on to talk about the fact that the Oscars are biased, so there's definitely some bias occurring in that group (but the ages of the members of the board would definitely be an interesting piece of information).

              White actors do go through those exact same pre-requisites and screening processes. My point is that there are more of them going through the process and thus the chances of finding a "perfect" or at least desirable fit are far higher. It's got nothing to do with white people being "gifted", it's about them being more numerous.

              The presence of discrimination (which may be structural and unconscious) is proven, prima facie, by the very fact that one particular group is vastly over-represented in a field of endeavour.

              Unfortunately, you're getting way ahead of yourself on the fact that discrimination is the reason for underrepresentation. Like the wage gap (which has already been proven time and time again to be at the very least overstated, and at most completely untrue), discrimination is the assumption made from the data, but it's almost impossible to prove that to be the case, and there are many, many other possible explanations that are more plausible.

              Nannies, for example, are massively overrepresented by women. It's not just possible discrimination that keeps men from the field, it's a divergence of interests that, if you really wanted to argue it, is born from social conditioning from birth. You could say "ah ha! See, discrimination, from an early age!" but ultimately you'd be arguing that humans lack the free will to make their own decisions in their lives. Not to mention the can of worms you open when you start to deconstruct society at such a foundational level, it's like a house of cards that you'd end up having to rebuild from scratch (which is never going to work). And even if you do want to make that argument, it's a generational problem, and as we go through generations and values and morals change over time, these things become far less of an issue. Look at the results of this survey to see how something like spanking tends to resolve itself over time, generationally, rather than through rallies and boycotts.

              I know that's not a satisfying solution, the "wait until the old people die off and the new guard get the power they deserve" solution, but sometimes that's the only viable one.


              The biggest issue with this sort of discussion is that people see a small group (in this case, the old white men who run the Oscars) who may very well be discriminating based on race and then use that assumption to extrapolate it into some systemic, widespread issue. People are not given jobs, promotions, and opportunities for so many reasons 100% including bias. It's no secret and actually proven (based on Nicholas Cage's career) that Hollywood is not a meritocracy.

              For every black actor snubbed for a role, there are just as many white actors who experience that same disappointment. They may experience equally unfair or invalid reasons for missing out because of one or several individuals not acting with integrity. But one person, or even a group of people, are not society as a whole, and one white man doesn't speak for all white men. Are there racist people in positions of power in Hollywood? Almost certainly. Does that mean that Hollywood or even society in general is racist? Not a chance.

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              Looks like someone has too much time on their hands

              I completely agree, in fact I think all movies should be diverse, I'm sick of watching Asian martial arts movies with mainly Asian actors, or Bollywood films full of Indians, give the white people a chance!

              But seriously, get off your high horse and stop with your attempt at PC crap.

      Thank you for adding that.

      Recasting Danny as an Asian actor adds nothing to the character except race based discussion. It's counterproductive.

      The important thing is that the actor is a good martial artist. That is the absolute, no. 1 priority.

      And I'm saying that as a Chinese guy who grew up watching the old school Kung Fu movies that Iron Fist was based on.

        Being a martial artist would have been my #1 criteria as well. I don't think he is, though. I can't find any reference to him having any kind of martial arts background.

        Martial arts training can come with time like with Keanu Reeves & co in the Matrix... but unfortunately I don't think we're going to see that. Stunt doubles might work.

          Good Martial Arts skills take years to develop, not weeks or months. The style, choreography, and novelty (at the time) saved The Matrix. Keanu Reeves & co were barely passable.

          At least Iron Fist's face is mostly covered. They can swap in competent doubles pretty easily.

      Yes it is.

      If the author is serious about racial diversity in Hollywood he is looking at the wrong roles.

      Rather than asking why didn't they uphold a racial stereotype by casting a white martial artist as an Asian American, he should be asking why Jessica Jones wasn't cast as an Asian American, or Steve Rogers, or Bruce Wayne...

        ... and why none of these roles went to Muppets?

    I agree in principle that "white man goes to some foreign place and is better than the natives at their thing because reasons" is a harmful trope and these days should be addressed. It's not like comics themselves don't get rebooted every ten seconds.
    But on the other hand changing it to fulfil a diversity quota (or "goal" if you find the word more palatable) is always going to feel like tokenism which is its own controversy. Maybe we could just adapt actual Asian source material without whitewashing it. How about we start there?

      Agreed, in the original posting of this on giz I actually posted a long version of how I would adapt it to steer clear of this trope and instead focus on the idea of self improvement by allowing yourself to appreciate other cultures.

      Frankly articles like this don't even allow the possibility of them actually doing this in a way that could be culturally appropriate.

      Would making him Asian American be kind of cool an interesting angle? Sure, but that doesn't mean trying something else is automatically racist. Hewing closer to the comic Danny Rand would allow more options to subvert the original racist tropes, rather than "half Asian rediscovers Asian culture but his Americaness makes him the best!"

      The intent to change the background of Iron Fist is to distance the property from harmful tropes/outdated origins. Diversity quotas and tokenism don't really come into it, unless they're being used to maintain the current position.

        I see that, my point is you can't really win either way. Is the argument to keep the protagonist white purist or racist? Is the push to have him changed embracing diversity or pandering?

        Maybe a property with this much stigma attached to it isn't suited for a modern adaptation.

        That said, I'd never heard of this property or it's TV adaptation until I read this article (apart from hearing the actor who plays Loras Tyrell on Game of Thrones was cast in another show, which probably meant a dire outcome for Loras), so it could have been an asian guy and I wouldn't have known any better. I'm not a purist, I really have no stake in this argument. But I think reimagining a character with what I assume is a rich backstory for the sake of hiding apparent "cultural appropriation" doesn't seem to have much merit aside from "the author of this article thinks it's good idea".

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          I really have no stake in this argument. Ditto.
          The audience that inevitably watches the show will have a very low percentage of fans familiar with the source. Like you, most people would be completely unaware, and maybe wouldn't care. It's a good position to hold. That said, it shouldn't matter either way whether the character is altered or maintained.
          However, personally, I'd rather the character is updated in one form or another to shirk the dead weight of a story that relies on the premise of "yet another rich white kid overcomes whatever to be the best at whatever". Rather like me, that type of story is tired and lazy by today's standards.

      I don't quite agree that "whitewashing" adapted movies is necessarily a bad thing. Yes Dragon ball sucked, but The Departed was fantastic. I think in this age of information we'd do better to promote international film, ideas and actors. On Netflix I have a buttload of quality Asian and Indian film. I watch horror from Spain and comedy from Germany. Do I need different interest groups wedged into my other things because otherwise I'll forget these people exist? If they'd made this with an Asian actor I wouldn't care, but I don't care that he's white either. They could have made him Hispanic and it would be the same to me. Maybe this guy got the role because he was the best applicant? Maybe he earned it? This is the part with this PC shit that makes me sick.

      You want to promote Asian culture and Asian actors. Go watch some Tony Jaa movies. Go watch The Raid. Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet LI broke into the American market because they were really fucking good and people wanted to watch them kick arse. These movies and people are already out there. How bout you watch them rather than bitching that movies about white people that were made largely by white people, have white people in them. Was my enjoyment of Ong Bak increased by the white people awkwardly jammed into it who couldn't act or fight? Not really.

    Surely making Iron Fist an Asian would just be propogating a stereotype of it's a martial artist super hero, so he must be asian.

    Making him white is diversity in action.
    It's chuck norris vs bruce lee.

    I'm not even sure if I'm being sarcastic or not!

    And there it is. The last article I'll ever read on this website.

      Yeah, I'm out too. Let's go start our own gaming website. With blackjack and hookers!

        Go to - it's a small site I found, it's actually pretty decent

        Thankfully it's blackjack, not whitejack.

    Calm down. We havent seen the show yet.

    You have valid points, but they could skew the story so that it makes sense, and even uses the point that he is white to highlight the very issues you are describing. A privileged white person thrown into a foreign culture, a person who goes through a drastic change in his personal view from his little rich white bubble.

    Of course, they could just do the comics, and then you would be 100% correct. But dont be so quick to judge what is, at the moment, entirely in your imagination

    please Rob Bricken, dont be butt-hurt that they may just look to the source material when casting. you yourself admitted "his comics debut in 1974, Danny Rand [is] a rich white kid"

    chill and enjoy that its being made at all; we should all just be hoping its quality like "Daredevil" and not "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D"

    It’s 2016

    Huh, I honestly thought I could get through an article on this topic without someone banging the 'It's [current year] !' drum.

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      Actually, it's 4712 on the Chinese lunar calendar, you racist scoundrel.

        Oh my god Im way overdue to finish my course then!!!

          Oi you, yes you, it's me from the future. You fucked up. Go back and fix it before its too late! You know what you did!

    So the actual character in the comics (Danny Rand) is white... and you don't like that? Instead you wish this martial-artist superhero was Asian?
    Wow, anti-white AND forcing stereotypes? That's double-racist.

    By your logic, shouldn't we be pissed that Captain Boomerang in Suicide Squad is not Aboriginal?

      Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

      You forgot to drop the mic...

      Reach harder.

        "Reach harder."? That's ableist!

        Am I doing it right?

          I'm really just disappointed at how many green ticks you got. I expected better from the users here, honestly.

            You can be disappointed, that is perfectly fine. I myself am grinning like an idiot at the fact that so many people found my satirical jab at a sensationalist article enjoyable enough to upvote, whether because they emphatically agree with what it states or because they get the joke.

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    Better idea, instead of race changing a character, why not bring an Asian character to the small screen?
    (Although personally, I'd rather see the black/latino Miles Morales in some form, he is a cool little guy)

      If his recent comic is any indication, people would only like his movie because he's black :P

        At this rate even if it were bad it'd probably win an Oscar

    Here's the thing I find in Marvel's current position of a rock and a hard place.

    Cast white guy for martial arts movie character = rasism

    Cast Asian American for martial arts movie character = stero typing and rasism

    Why not cast Matt Murdock's partner as Asian or any other race? Hell why not cast Matt Murdock as a black guy? I think you've picked the wrong character to be waring on about cause you want a stereotypical Asian male in a martial arts show when you could have picked any other race or nationality to play the character other than white.

    I'll watch the shit out of a black/Hispanic/female iron fist show for sure as long as it's true to the character in essence.

    So you reposted it on here because you wanted more of a shitstorm? screw it, i'll take the bait.

    I seriously don't see how a white person knowing martial arts is considered racist.

    Shouldn't culture be shared?

    Iron Fist is a creation made from the love of Martial Arts in the 70's, and a lot of the movies you mention are the same. Martial arts are fucking cool, everyone wants to be a sick karate master and Iron Fist was made to show kids that they can be martial arts master's as well.

    Also, seeing as this is on a gaming website, Iron Fist was in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, a game made by Japanese people, the fact that he got in instead of other much more popular characters (seriously, no Cable, Psylocke, Venom, Doc Oc, etc.) means that they mustn't have a problem with him.

    Also don't forget, Luke Cage is getting his own show, and he was great in Jessica Jones so i can't wait for him to get his own show, and he started off as a pretty racist character in the comics.

    Finally, has anyone seen the show yet? no, for all we know he could have a completely new back story that's a little less problematic, but still keeping his original concept in tact, i have complete faith that they are aware of what could be wrong with the character and will respect the nationalities he is adopting with the utmost respect.

    Edit: Oh boy i must have skipped over the part where you got angry that Dr.Strange was casted as a white guy, that is straight up delusional, the character isn't taking any culture like your argument with Iron Fist, so there is literally no reason to change his race.

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      Articles like this bring the most clicks. These shitstorms probably get more attention than the rest of day's articles combined! Probably!

      there is literally no reason to change his race

      Ah, but by that same token, there's no reason NOT to change his race.

      Which I don't disagree with. But honestly, I'd prefer that kind of thing be decided by casting call. If a character's race is truly, completely irrelevant, open the casting to literally everyone instead of putting "seeking 6'4" square jawed blonde ubermensch" in all the advertisements, and let he best man win.

        Fair point, there is no reason to not change his race, in Dr.Stranges case his race is entirely meaningless, but this guy takes it super personally that they didn't give the role to a POC when there is no precedent for this character to be one, why did he NEED to be a POC like this author suggests, when as you said, the race is meaningless?

        They did it to Nick Fury, and that worked out really well, but that was because Sam Jackson is a terrific actor and can pull it off, and i think Benedict Cumberbatch will be a really great fit for the weird and wonderful Dr.Strange.

        If they chose another race for the actor, as long as they where the right choice and do a good job then i wouldn't give a shit what race they are, but if they chose an actor solely based on their race then thats not good enough.

        instead of putting "seeking 6'4" square jawed blonde ubermensch" in all the advertisements, and let he best man win.

        But that depends on the role, in the case of Dr.Strange i'd agree, race doesn't define that character, but for Iron Fist it does, as many people have pointed out, instead of the story being about "really good asian martial artist" it has the potential to be about "White rich asshole learns humility by becoming a great martial artist" which is a far more interesting story.

        Also sometimes it is completely necessary to cast by race, you couldn't have the lead character of 12 years a slave being played by Channing Tatum, or Monsieur Candie from Django Unchained being played by Ice Cube (sorry for both examples being from movies about slavery, it's late so cut me some slack).

        I agree that anyone should be able to do any role within reason, this situation that the author of this article is talking about is not one of them as it completely changes the dynamic of the character. Does Iron Fist need a bit of a rewrite of his backstory from its original 70's version? yeah i'd say so, and the Netflix MCU guys have done a great job with Daredevil and Jessica Jones so i expect the same for Iron Fist.

    I fail to see the point of changing a pre existing character's race, for political agenda. If the best actor for job is a different colour/race, like Samuel L Jackson as Nick Furry i'm all for it. But if changing Iron fist to an Asian, just because Hollywood has a history of changing Asian, Egyptian, Native American etc characters into whites that is just tit for tat bullshit and will not effect any real change. Just my opinion.

      When Marvel reimagined the Marvel universe for their "Ultimate" line, they intentionally changed Nick Fury to look like Samuel L Jackson. When the movies came around, Jackson felt honored to do the role that was based on him.

        While I was aware that they had changed Nick to look like Samuel L Jackson. I thought the movie role came first, & then the comic character to suit. Cheers for the knowledge.

          The Ultimate universe was set up in roughly 2000/2002, and is a great read. I highly recommend it. Since it's a whole new universe (as opposed to a reboot), you don't really need to have any background knowledge on any characters to read it. It fleshes out it's characters more in my opinion, changes them (again, for the better imo), and last I checked when it kills characters off, they stay dead (though I haven't read it in a few years, so...)

            Not that I read a whole lot, but Ultimate was my favourite comic universe. It was a shame that they killed off Peter, established Miles as Spiderman, only to bring Peter back and inexplicably end the universe a short time later.

            I'm still reeling from the fact they literally destroyed the multiverse the way they did. All that history, every single story from Marvel's start until last year all ended the same way.

              I uh... I haven't read that far in either universe. I'm trying to read through the main universe at the moment to get up to the end of the multiverse...

              I have the full Ultimate Spider-Man (Peter Parker version) run in trade paperback form. It's the only series I've ever collected in that format. I still reread it at least once a year. Probably some of the best storytelling and world building in comic books ever

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        Honoured? No, as part of the deal to use his likeness, he made sure to get an agreement he'd play the character if they ever did a movie.

    It all just depends on which way you want to look at diversity. Whilst it would be considered fair to point out how so few of the headline characters in the MCU are non-white, you could also look at portrayal of martial arts in general. I mean, at least 90% of martial-artists you see in movies and TV happen to be Asian, which may be for obvious reasons (the cultural origins of martial arts), but it wouldn't be very diversity-focused to expect every martial-artist you see in movies or TV to be Asian.

    Also, as we are talking in the context of a Marvel TV series, it's worth mentioning that whilst the article is being critical of how long it is taking Marvel to have a non-white or female lead movie (fair points), it completely failed to point out how Marvel has already produced Agent Carter and Jessica Jones series on TV and are also in-production of a Luke Cage series right now too.

      Don't Forget Black Panther is showing up literally in the next Marvel movie coming out, and he'll be getting his own movie later.

        Not to mention Baron Mordo, is now played by Chiwotel Eijiofor in Dr Strange, a prominent role played by a prominent actor. Let's also consider that Luke Cage is getting his own series as stated by Sidewaysm, that it will focus heavily on african american culture too as stated BY its own star and the production crew.

        Let's also look at how Falcon has become a prominent Avenger, taking his first kickass role in Winter Soldier and NOT being a bit player, but an equally kickass character. His part in Civil War will no doubt be just as impacting given the Russos have stated categorically he's an important player.

        Black Panther plays a big part in Civil War and the Avengers going forward, infact he's going to be very central to the MCU apparently.

        Scarlett Johanssen has proven herself across multiple movies to be extremely capable and an equal to any and every Avenger, I agree its about time she got her own movie, but still, she's there, she's never underused and she's awesome.

        Oh and Wasp is so anticipated Antman 2 is called ANTMAN & WASP.

        Diversity is coming to the MCU, it's being introduced pretty damn well. noone denies there was a shit balance to begin with but it's correcting its course appropriately and not shoehorning, it's doing it properly. DC has already done it properly out the starting gate and I give them full credit for it with Cyborg, Wonderwoman, Aquaman and Black Adam and once Marvel saw they had an issue they've gone *great guns* in correcting it too. I mean Captain Marvel is a AAA property of theirs heavily anticipated too, Carol Danvers will be no small role to fill and to value.

        Sorry I'm just frustrated with this article, I'm gonna go pull hair out of my already balding head...

          Don't worry man i feel the same, i wanted to write way more in my other comment on here but had to hold myself back.

          I also forgot that Samuel L. Jackson is an example of character's races being changed, but it was solely based on Sam Jacksons talented acting that even Marvel comics agreed that Black Nick Fury is the best. It's why if they did make Iron Fist an Asian american, i wouldn't have cared as long as he was the right actor for the job, but this guys argument is solely based on "it should be asian because he does martial arts" and that's it.

          The MCU has been pretty diverse from the start.

            Agreed 100%. If they made Danny Rand half chinese half American I wouldn't rage, I wouldn't honestly care, but the reasoning here is as bad as "I don't want him to be chinese or half chinese, he's white because you know, he's white so he should be white!"

    Why race change an existing character? Just adapt or create a new asian character if diversity is the goal

      Or use one of the many, many pre-existing asian characters in the MCU. There's quite a few!!!

    Best multi-racial casting was I Spy with Bill Cosby (cough) as the coach and Robert Culp as his protege.

    Best actor for the part rather than progressive tick boxing?

    The focus shouldn't be on skin colour, rather the skills, availability and price of the actor.
    Making him black just for the sake of it would be a really dumb decision.

    Also don't forget Luke Cage in Jessica Jones is black. I'm not saying there can't be more, but there hasn't been a single reason other than just because.

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    Jesus christ did you even consider passing this article along to someone else before you pressed publish???

      Just look at the hope this article could inspire for people though...

      "If this can get published, I can get ANYTHING published!"

    Taking this article seriously gives it more credibility than it deserves. A character that is white in the comics is also white in a TV show. There's no compelling reason to change his race, and some good reasons to maintain story and character integrity. What exactly is the problem? If you want more characters of (insert ethnicity here) then create something new yourself. Don't just hitch your agenda to someone else's creation and call it 'the right thing to do'. I find it arrogant and self righteous (because you presume to speak for others but in a vague and unquantified way) , and deliberately selective thinking (because you're not considering the people who care about the character as it is).

    I also wanted to note that I am not an iron fist fan. I also considered noting my own ethnicity but I don't think it should have any bearing on the discussion.

    There was very clearly a right choice here

    Judging by the reactions from other users.

    No, there really wasn't clearly a right choice.

      There was very clearly a right choice here... just not the article authors delusional choice

    "Yes, it’s true that the comics character Iron Fist is white, and thus it is indeed technically accurate for a white guy to play the role on TV. But technical accuracy does not equate “the right thing”, for lack of a better term."

    What the actual f**k did I just read?

    I'm sorry, the editor let this shit get published?

    This is the biggest load of toss I've ever bothered to read.

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