Valve Boss Sees A Future In Which Apple Has Killed The Video Game Console

Gabe Newell, the man at the top of Valve Software, has had a vision of the future. At some point in Gabe's futureworld, Apple will control the entertainment in your living room, making "the notion of a separate console platform" disappear.

The Valve co-founder prognosticated Apple's living room-dominating future at the Washington Technology Industry Association's TechNW conference game panel, reports the Seattle Times. Newell's concept of a "platform" may differ from the conventional definition, as he sees the four platforms on which we play comprised of "the Internet, mobile, desktop and the living room."

Newell said that, despite having no secret knowledge of a new Apple product, he suspects the iPod and iPad maker "will launch a living room product that redefines people's expectations really strongly and the notion of a separate console platform will disappear." That product may "disrupt" the living room platform and challenge the console's hold on the living room.

Apple has been making slow, console-like inroads into the living room with its Apple TV product, which connects to its iPhone and iPad, in some cases using those portable platforms as controllers.

Seemingly worrisome to Newell is Apple's (and Xbox Live's) closed platform approach, which he describes as an "ominous" trend.

TechNW: Best and worst of times for games, Valve vs. Apple [Seattle Times]


    So Basically, OnLive?

      Not even nearly the same thing.

        Incredibly very much the same thing, since anything else will be a stand-alone game playing device, a console. Which is a computer, that plays video games.

    I think they'll need a decent controller system before Apple can take over the living room, cos at the moment the touch controls on the iPhone suck balls.

      true. I have no desire for anything other than a control pad to play games on.

        inb4 wii U-style iphone cradle addon.

    Something like what Newell's describing is so long overdue. Apple is the right company to do it too.

      I hate apple fanboys


        I ain't a Apple fanboy, but it would be interesting to see what happens.

        My iPod jailbroken is the best device out there in the world.

        Even if I was an Apple fanboy, who gives a shit about your allegiance to a corporate entity? Bigotry is the most effective way to combat progress.

          Dumbing down technology, taking away as much control from the end user as possible and charging more for it is progress?

            The things about technology that you care about are not what 99% of the rest of the world cares about.

              Might I add the nintendo wii into this line up. Why was it so popular and why couldn't apple do this. Apple will have majority of the share in the console space.

              Well Chazz is talking about actual "Progress"... everyone else seems to be throwing "Popularity" up in the air and pretending it's the same thing.

            If you want that level of complexity, awesome. Install Linux on your home machine, run everything from commandline, install two video cards - whatever gives you the tech buzz you're looking for.

            Like markd says: most people don't care for complexity or customisability. These people just want to do stuff on their device. And guess what? *They* are the new majority.

              And that's the problem. Progress is supposed to be a good thing is it not? How is paying more for less a good thing?

                I should add that having control over what you do with your devices does not instantly mean it's too complicated or too much for people who want simplicity and ease of use.

                Look at android phones like the Samsung Galaxy and such. Simple, straight-forward and easy to use but the option to do whatever you want, how you want is still there.

                  There it is! that question "how is paying more for less a good thing?" perfectly highlights how you do not understand what people are actually valuing and that it is very different from what you value.

                  There will always be a market for the tech loving people that want to fiddle with things, but fortunately now computing as a whole is becoming about everyone else, the majority, not an entire industry run by and catering for a niche.

                  People dont want "control over their devices". By people I mean 99% of people, not you. 99% of people dont want control over how the fuel pump in their car works either, they just want to get in and drive.

          When there is a lack of competition, There becomes a lack of innovation.

            And yet the "apple car" would not have the option for you to take control over the wheel ~if you so choose~. You are forced to be driven, with no other option. The "android car" still does the hands-free driving, but you ~can~ take control of the wheel and drive if you want.

        So do I, I suspect they share quite a few similarities with the way you think.

    See, I envision a present where Gabe Newell has killed PC retail... and Digital Distribution competition.

      LOL Gabe fanboy. He hasn't killed off retail, nor the competition. Keep dreaming.

        There was no way in which that was a positive statement about Gabe.

        I really, really don't like him.

    Apple could probably throw millions of dollars at console development right now and not even bat an eyelid.

    "Apple will control the entertainment in your living room, making “the notion of a separate console platform” disappear." That first line is editorial - no-one will ever 'control' the entertainment in your living room, but I would expect Apple to continue to evolve appletv into something that would dethrone my ps3 from being the main device that runs my television.

    As much as I love Gabe I hope that he turns out to be TOTALLY wrong on this.

      Oh don't worry, Gabe has been always known for his wild accusations and mood swings.
      Remember how he disliked the PlayStation 3 and said how it was closed like a Mac or GameCube? And now he supports it!

        True dat. Let's hope this is another instance of it. Otherwise;

        Because a guy can't change his mind after a company changes it's practises and betters it's dev-kits over 3-4 years?

    It'll be awesome

    Apple will release there thing it will cost 4 times as much as anything like it surely should.

    Millions will buy it.

    PC gaming will forever be cheaper :D

      I'll never understand this obsession with price

        You're right. People focussing on value for money is just downright weird!

          Everyone likes value for money Chazz, people who are into computers tend to value different things to most people.

            Like what exactly?

              Customisation, cheap prices, raw performance.

                There's literally no reason for Macs to be more expensive. They soulder old processors to the motherboard so you can't upgrade, chuck in an old graphics card and charge hundreds of dollars extra.

    So does that mean no more Steam support for Mac?

    I find this more worrisome than the threat of global warming. I need to sort out my priorities.

      I find the idea that people can be taken and run through brutal, pointless tests for science more worrying them the above.

    So simply because Apple enters the console territory, they will revolutionize the platform and all the current competitors will not bother with their own innovation and just stop making devices in that market space, making Apple the ONLY choice?...

    Umm... Sure... Cos that makes perfect sense...

    Oh wait a sec, I see what will happen... Apple will secure all the 'console like' patents and just sue anyone that tries to compete with them, which in turn will kill competition driven innovation #]

      I'm not sure how forcing people to make something other than a replica of your product would be killing any innovation..then again if they are the kind of people that need to be sued to stop them doing it then they probably aren't very innovative in the first place :P

    Less thinking, more HL2:EP3 please :P

    Sounds more like the new stuff that's already happening in the next XBox upgrade.

    I hope this doesn't happen, I like my Playstation.

    Seems pretty logical to me, in the future games/apps/media will just live across multiple devices in the one eco system, and there will be multiple eco systems.

    iPhone/iPad > AppleTV + TV

    Sony handheld > Playstation console + TV

    Nintendo handheld > Nintendo console + TV

    Microsoft phone > Xbox console + TV

    Android phone > Google something + TV

    The notion is not of multiple platforms disappearing, its the notion of content (games) being exclusively run on a console device disappearing.

    One word - 3DO

    Nice to see the experts at least TRYING to catch up when it comes to understanding the future.
    Apple and Google will fight each other in the market for systems the manage the whole house, not some minor 1 or 2 room setup that controls a few things, this guy will figure that out soon.

    Valve sees many futures. Not all will come to pass.

    oh god no..

    Apple just stay with what your doing with the phones and stuff, k.

    The day that happens is the day I kick off Project Mayhem.

    • He also sees a future in which Episode 3 comes out

    • I highly doubt Apple will dominate the market as much as we thought it would now that Jobs is gone

    • I also think that he is also killing the console. And I don't think that's a good thing.

    as long as Sony still keeps making awesome games I don't care what I play them on.

    HELL NO. Please apple, just stick with phones. The day that happens and there's no more playstation, is the day I quit gaming. Wouldn't be the same.

    Apple is the antithesis to progress. The iPod was a straight rip off of other MP3 players, which wouldn't be a bad thing except it was twice the price, had half as a much space, and imposed mandatory media-overseer software to transfer your files.

    The iPhone was even worse because people were ready to copy it. I love the Samsung Galaxy because it's the first phone I've had since the iPhone came out to support drag and drop. Let me repeat that. I LOVE A PHONE BECAUSE IT LETS ME DO SOMETHING I WAS DOING TEN YEARS AGO.

    Apple has mutilated the progress of technology and the sooner their fad ends the sooner we can go back to actually making things better, instead of just making them sleeker, whiter, and featuring more tight-jeaned ads aimed at hipsters.

      Shhh, don't you realize that you're upsetting the "We value things differently because if you don't agree that shiny white plastic and a uni-button is worth extra hundreds of dollars then you are a super nerd who is obviously out of touch with the rest of us uninformed masses and therefore must be marginalized"-folks...

      But I guess that's not such a bad thing. It's usually bad news if that crowd likes you, in my experience.

    With Steve Jobs not around, I'd think otherwise.

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