Anita Sarkeesian Was Just On Colbert Report

Anita Sarkeesian Was Just On Colbert Report

Video: Critic Anita Sarkeesian just made an appearance on The Colbert Report, in an interview which followed a section of the show devoted entirely to gamergate.

You can check out the interview in the clip below.

Anita Sarkeesian Was Just On Colbert Report

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    I don't follow this topic, but it's clearly bullshit. Always has been, even before someone slapped the gamergate label on it.

    The market drives content.

    It is no more complicated than that.

    Is there a market for Dead or Alive bikini laden female characters. Yep.

    Are bikini laden female characters illegal or unethical? Nope.

    Are they distasteful? Subjective.

    If you're going to attack the gaming industry for reasons such as portrayal or women, then you have to attack all media. Which they don't. As such, they're full of shit.

    In regards to gaming journalism. That's really only a part of this topic because apparently some of the females in this story slept with some male journalists. That kind of thing is incidental and doesn't classify an industry. It might be indicative of corruption within an industry, but in and of itself it is too insignificant. So it's just a convenience to bring it up along with the sexism discussion.

    Is there a problem with gaming journalism? Well yes, obviously. It is massively oriented around hype. Massively so. The industry is utterly dependent on hype. The hype is not otherwise necessary. We don't need to be buying Battlefield 4 for $90 when it's the same as Battlefield 3 for $10. But hype makes people pay for it.

      I don't think anyone is saying sexualised female characters are illegal or unethical, or even distasteful - Sarkeesian is saying they are sexist, the product of lazy writing and design, and that they reinforce negative stereotypes. The gaming industry isn't being attacked in this sense, it is being critiqued in ways that other media have been subject to for at least 40 years. Sarkeesian herself did a whole series on Tropes vs Women in the broader context of popular culture before she focused on video games. Consumers of other media seem to be able to handle this kind of criticism - I am kind of baffled that so many gamers cannot.

      I agree with you about the problems in gaming journalism. This is why the GamerGate claim that this is all about journalistic ethics rings hollow to me, because they seem to be far more concerned with low-level nepotism in the indie scene than the massive PR machine that controls the AAA market.

        " Sarkeesian is saying they are sexist, the product of lazy writing and design"

        Well that's fine. Laziness isn't a crime. There are good reasons for laziness. Laziness cannot be the cause of all this hoopla. If it is then the people heavily invested in discussing it are pointless and forgettable, and completely undeserving of any attention.

        "and that they reinforce negative stereotypes"

        This I can agree with, but then media is allowed to do that. Freedom of speech, freedom of content.

        "Consumers of other media seem to be able to handle this kind of criticism - I am kind of baffled that so many gamers cannot."

        Perhaps because we know that other media won't be dramatically changed by such challenges, and gamers fear that their preferred games are threatened.

        This is why I'm confused that this is a discussion about gaming, and not about media in general. If it is about media in general why is the gaming community giving it so much attention. Why not just ignore the topic like everyone else has over the last 50 years or more.

        " This is why the GamerGate claim that this is all about journalistic ethics rings hollow to me, because they seem to be far more concerned with low-level nepotism in the indie scene than the massive PR machine that controls the AAA market."

        Yeah. I think it's a totally valid subject to question journalistic ethics, and I think it is valid to mention alleged sexual relationships, but you can't create a whole argument based on that. And the subject of sexism and journalistic ethics are entirely different, so I do question why they're being mashed together.

          I think we're pretty close to the same page here. Sure, laziness isn't a crime, and Sarkeesian isn't looking to have anyone arrested - she's just calling them out. And yes, freedom of speech allows all of this - criticism of this type isn't saying 'this must be banned', it is just pointing out some issues. And why gamers who don't want to engage in socio-political criticism can't ignore this is beyond me.

          But this:

          "Perhaps because we know that other media won't be dramatically changed by such challenges, and gamers fear that their preferred games are threatened."

          Why? This is the fundamental thing I cannot get my head around. Does anyone honestly think that any games are threatened by this? At best maybe some developers think a bit more about their characters and story arcs. Sarkeesian's criticism, even with the backing of Kotaku and any number of websites, is not going to stop any games being made.

          Even if the criticisms were taken on board, would anyone's enjoyment of games really be affected so much? One of the reasons I think that many gamers don't care about how women are portrayed is that story is totally subservient to gameplay. Who cares if the story or character design is shit as long as the gameplay works? But that cuts both ways - if it is all about gameplay, what harm is there in cutting out the sexism?

          Last edited 02/11/14 10:55 pm

      You know how I know you're a libertarian?

      You think the complexity of human life can be boiled down into puerile pseudo-economic statements.

        Show me how what I've said is puerile, or show yourself to be puerile.

    Watched her first 2 tropes videos, disagreed with her one sided opinion, never watched anything else of hers. And now we're getting her blasted all over the place. Sorry but how is her opinion any more important than anyone elses.

    wow way to put women on a pedestal........ only men no boys that have never gotten laid or in a relationship act like this around women. grow up and get laid then you will finally get those rose colored glasses off and see that women are just the same as men, nothing more nothing less, its called being a human being. and im so sick and tired of this rubbish at my age in 40s. seen it all and just so tired of it all. get a life is all I can say to this woman. threats to anyone is not ok not just women, and this whole sexism thing. my god jermain greer has been on about this in media and films since the effin 60s. GET A LIFE!!!! GROW UP!!!! STFU!!!!

    Which would be fine if it was. But lets be clear, when 90% of the aggresion from that mob are directed at non journalist women, its hard to work out exactly what it is about "ethics in journalism" they are angry about.

    I don't give two shits about this gamergate crap but I dislike anita. Tits are the greatest thing ever and implying that I'm wrong to like tits in my video games is just plain stupid.

      You're a terrible person for saying that.
      You're history's greatest monster for saying that.
      You'll go down in the history books for saying that.
      They'll call you Adolf Titler.

    Dear muppets saying 'Oh wow, I'm a #gamergater but NO REALLY I'M HERE FOR THE ETHICS NOT THE RAPE AND DEATH THREATS':

    Make a new #(*&*$ing hashtag you losers.

    Standing next to a bunch of people sending rape and death threats wearing the same t-shirt, engaging in the same spaces and branding yourselves with the same term and you wonder why you aren't being taken seriously?

    Truth is, a hell of a lot of the 'it's about ethics' crew are just on the milder end of misogyny, simply wanting the status quo to remain.

    The status quo IS sexist.

    If you find the above statement incorrect, congratulations, you're either delusional or on the misogynist spectrum. Or both, as they tend to be co-morbid.

    Or you could just be very, very stupid.

      Why so online trolls can attach to that hashtag and then you can then paint ALL those people with misogyny?

      Here's what's gonna happen.... #newhashtag "oh look all those people using #newhashtag are just really #gamergate so it's all about misogyny and attacking women because that's what we are saying it's about (not them)"

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