The Smash Bros. Community Is Arguing About Bayonetta

The Smash Bros. Community Is Arguing About Bayonetta

One of Super Smash Bros. For Wii U‘s more controversial characters is in the spotlight again. Pros and casuals alike are debating whether to ban Bayonetta.

The gun-heeled domme star of some pretty good spectacle fighter games, Bayonetta’s presence in Smash has been a sore spot for the competitive Smash community for a while. She has incredible combo potential, a flurry of kicks that could send you flying even after Nintendo tuned her down a bit.

Things came to a head when three of the top four spots at Frostbite 2018, a major Smash tournament, were occupied by Bayonetta players.

To be fair, Bayonetta was not the only target of the community’s ire; Cloud has also been pointed out as an incredibly strong character in doubles. But Bayonetta’s presence this year, from filling top spots at tournaments to winning Evo, has been dominant.

But the ultimate question remains: is it right to ban a character? Bayonetta has been beaten before (MkLeo regularly takes down Bayonetta players), and removing a character instead of adapting seems hasty.

Here’s what a few pros and prominent community members have said on the matter:

Other pros have weighed in, like currently retired Smash 4 pro Gonzalo “ZeRo” Barrios, discussing not just Bayo complaints but issues with Smash 4 at large.

One popular phrase, “just SDI,” has popped up as the response for dealing with Bayonetta. (SDI, or smash directional influence, is tapping the control stick in any direction during the freeze frames of being hit, to avoid multi-hit combos.)

So while its up to tournament organisers like Suar to actually ban Bayonetta or not, the rest of the community sinks slowly into the abyss of obsessing over a character’s eminence.


  • I like the one about how pro banners are calm, logical and responsible and anti bans are just angry trolls.

    Internet arguments are best.

    • Those arguments are the best because you can easily make one where the first side is irrational and the second side is calm and thought-out.

      Every time.

  • I understand why bans on characters happen and are a must, but when it happens I wonder why the game is allowed in competitions to begin with.

    That said, there’d probably be no games allowed for competition play. But it just looks odd that we’re playing this game but Q, R, S, X, Y and Z characters are not allowed to be used.

  • The real thing is whilst Nintendo avoids supporting the game, the FGC and others need to move into actively maintaining the games balance. The Smash community however is insanely resistant to change however.

  • Don’t even think about banning Bayonetta she was a good playable character on Super Smash Bros. for Wii U although I’m not a huge Bayonetta fan I still want Bayonetta as a playable character for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. game coming to Nintendo Switch.

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