Community Review: The Avengers

This is a first, but considering just how many people I know have been raving about The Avengers, I thought it might be nice to have a Community Review on something that wasn't a video game. I know... crazy. So what did you guys think?

I was overseas all last week, so I haven't had the chance to watch it yet. My wife went all of our friends to watch it without me, citing the fact that I said, 'the trailer looks a bit crap' as an excuse.

Now that people I trust implicitly have come back saying the movie was good, I kinda want to watch it. I'm considering going to this cinema by myself tonight to watch it. Forever alone.

But first — what did you guys think of the movie? Is it worth my while?


Comments

    Decent movie. I liked it more than Thor and Iron Man 2, but not as much as Iron Man or Captain America. I was really emotionally invested in Captain America, and I was hoping that the Avengers would be as good or better than that, but it's not. Still a great movie and well worth a watch though.

    And considering Thor 2, Iron Man 3 and Captain America 2 have all been announced, there's pretty much no risk of the characters dying lol.

    $10 that they do a Hawkeye/Black Widow spinoff next.

      Pretty much this. It was pretty good, and I did enjoy it, but I spent most of the time wishing I was watching an Iron Man only movie instead. I enjoyed Iron Man 1 and probably even Captain America more.

      Except when the Hulk was on screen. Spoilers:He's awesome

        Oh, and re: $10 bet. That would only pay for half a movie ticket.

        I think last night was the first full priced movie I have seen in about 3 years. It cost $18 - in 2D! I couldn't believe it, I thought they were accidentally charging me the 3D price and called the lady on it. Nope, that's the standard price. Cripes!

          Lol, I buy my movie tickets from a Milk-Bar here in melbourne. You basically get a voucher. Hoyts Adults are $13.50 and Village Adults are $14.50. Have to pay $2 extra for the 3D upgrade though but still WAY cheaper.

          And yes, the Hulk made my day!

            I go to Southbank Cinemas in Brisbane. 6.50 during the day for adults, or using my student card? 5.50 for me :D :D :D :D 8.50 if I see it in 3D.

            Oh and it's got the biggest screen in Queensland, and one of the biggest in Aus. It's an ex Imax cinema.

        Hulk was by far my favourite, followed closely by Capt. 'Merica and Iron Man.

      I hope they do do a Hawkeye/Black Widow movie. I was talking about it the other day and my Mum reckons that if they do make one, it'll be a prequel.

    I saw it on Saturday. It's awesome. It's very Joss Whedon. Only thing I didn't like about it was the CGI Hulk didn't feel as large or as menacing as the CGI Hulk in The Incedible Hulk. Other than that though it was pretty much non stop greatness.

      That answered my own personal query I was wondering about what was different about the hulk (apart from Mark Ruffalo's face being used).

        This Hulk is the first motion captured Hulk... So it was mostly Ruffalo walking around, assuming he didn't do any building surfing...

          Plenty of building surfing. Using baddies as surfboards :D He's spectacular :D

      I think that was intentional.
      Since Banner has learned to live with the rage and control the Hulk more, he won't be as powerful. Hulk's strength is directly proportional to his anger (See World War Hulk, where he single handedly takes out pretty much every major hero, even Sentry)

    If you enjoy the Iron Man movies - you must watch this. If you enjoyed Thor or Captain America - you must watch this. If you thought the Hulk movies ok, but lacking- You must watch this.

    Saw it yesterday, and can honestly say it puts the previous marvel movies to shame a little. Great writing, great humour from more then just Stark.

    Honestly though, dont use the trailer as an excuse, and watch it to find your opinion Mark!

    I thought the movie was fantastic, with great action scenes as well as plenty of jokes.

    My only real complaints are:
    1) the overarching plot is essentially copy/pasted from Transformers 3.
    2) the tesseract looks and is continually refered to as "the cube" even though a tesseract is a hupercube.
    3) the plot has a bit of setup before it stops feeling super generic army movie, but after that its great (about 20 minutes in when you get to the airship it picks up).

      Dude, don't say that the plot is from Transformers. That's very insulting.

        No less true for being insulting, though.

      Hahaha; totally agree with point 1. Very TF3.

      Especially the over the top references to America, classic Hollywood. Pretty sure they re-used some of the city destruction too.

    I didn't like it. In fact, I found it extremely disappointing. Joss Whedon is/was capable of much better. The action scenes were - of course - gorgeous, but the story had gaping holes, deus ex machinae and weird leaps of logic that you could shove a shiny blue stick through. The characters were shallow and ultimately uninteresting. The humour felt shoehorned, unnecessary and forced. It felt like an ordinary, pedestrian superhero movie - that is to say, that if you strip away the explosions and Scarlett Johannsen's T&A, you're left with a big ol' pile of meh.

      Jeez, are we addicted to saying everything has deus ex machina these days? There was no deus ex machina. There wasn't a last minute independent plot device introduced to resolve the conflict. It's a superhero move, go into it expectiing a fricken superhero movie. On those expectations you get your fifteen dollars worth. You're naive if you were expecting anything else.

        Harsh dude. I was just voicing my opinion. No need to be hostile about it. I can give you some very good reasons why – in my mind – The Avengers failed as a superhero ensemble movie.

        But rather than go into that, I will say this: the deus ex machinae I was referring to were:

        (www.rot13.com will translate these spoilers for you)

        1) Gung gur oyhr fgnss gung Ybxv jnf pneelvat nebhaq pbhyq crargengr gur vzcrargenoyr raretl oneevre naq pybfr gur cbegny.

        2) Gung nyy gur nyvraf sryy qbja qrnq nf fbba nf gur cbegny jnf pybfrq.

        3) Gung Oehpr Onaare jnf noyr gb evqr hc ba n zbgbeplpyr naq svaq gur tngurerq urebrf jvgubhg nccneragyl trggvat ybfg va Arj Lbex, be snyyvat ivpgvz gb gur haoryvrinoyr genssvp wnz gung jbhyq unir fheebhaqrq uvz sbe zvyrf va nyy qverpgvbaf! (V yrg guvf bar tb va gur vavgvny ivrjvat, ohg sbe fnxr bs pbzcyrgrarff va guvf yvfg, V’z zragvbavat vg)

        4) Onaare jnf noyr gb pbageby gur Uhyx va gur svany onggyr, ohg nccneragyl abg orsber gung.

        5) Uryy, rira gur Pbhapvy qrpvfvba gb ahxr Arj Lbex jnf n qrhf rk znpuvan, gur Pbhapvy’f guvefg sbe vaabprag oybbq univat abg orra nyyhqrq gb be uvagrq ng cerivbhfyl va gur svyz.

          I don't think you really understand the concept of a deus ex machina - regardless, I totally agree with point 4.

            Deus ex machina: a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object.

            I think this definition fits everything I said.

          RE point 4:

          Jura Uhyx jnf hayrnfurq ba gur fuvc vg jnf ntnvafg Oehpr'f jvyy. Jura va gur pvgl, ur yrg Uhyx bhg naq guhf unq fbzr pbageby bire uvz.

          Nabgure gurbel vf gung rirelbar jnf nssrpgrq ol Ybxv'f fgnss. Ur jnagrq Uhyx gb or hayrnfurq. Gur fprar jurer Oehpr vf fhqqrayl ubyqvat gur fgnss vzcyvrf gurer zvtug unir orra fbzr fbeg bs hafrra sbepr ng jbex urer. Ur jnf gelvat gb ghea gurz nyy ntnvafg rnpu bgure naq jura gurl jrer va cebkvzvgl bs gur fgnss jnf jurer nyy gurl nyy fgnegrq gb.

            Maybe, but isn't the fact that it wasn't clear or explained in any way kind of a failure of the movie?

            Like the Mass Effect 3 ending. Think what you will of its fictional credence, but it was really quite poorly explained.

              I felt how Black Window figured it out while talking to Loki kinda explained it.

              I think the major issue with trying to explain everything is that this is a collab movie and in order to try and get each character to have their fair share of screen time, certain concessions relating to the overall plot had to be made. For example, I loved Iron Man and his universe and it would have been great to see a little more, but that would not have been fair to others.
              As to whether or not it's a failure of the movie, I would think that if you (the audience, not just you Shane) had watched the Incredible Hulk, it is explained a little there, he is released at the university against his will, but his love for Betty keeps him from hurting her, he jumps out of the plane and releases himself to kill Abomination and attacks only Abomination, with a little control.
              So in the Avengers when Onaare fnlf "V'z nyjnlf natel" naq eryrnfrf gur uhyx, ur erznvaf va pbageby naq ybfrf n ybg bs uvf cbjre, which is also explored in the hulk movies, "the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets"
              I agree that there are a lot of plot holes, especially with the aliens and the way the movie treats their final scene, but this movie was intended to be viewed in quick succession with the others and I would imagine that any sequels, Gunangbf nccrnevat nsgre gur perqvgf naq rkcerffvat uvf vagrerfg va nggnpxvat gur Rnegu, for example would be able to pseudo explain the bulk of it. But it was also a quick way to fgbc gur guerng gurl nyy cbfrq jvgubhg univat gb unir gur fprar bs gur urebrf ybbxvat nyy bire gbja sbe gur bar be gjb nyvraf gung qvqa'g trg pnhtug hc va gurve svany fjrrc. Va n zbivr yvxr gur Niratref, gung fprar unf ab cynpr, va n zbivr yvxr gur Vaperqvoyr Uhyx be rira Gube vg znl unir.
              Sorry for the mid text cyphering, but I really didn't want to spoil anyone's reading by accident, especially given how long this thread is

    Saw it yesterday, it's great.
    Well as good as a movie tie-in of 4-5 different comic book characters being squizzed into 2hrs is going to get.
    It was definitely good but everyone’s performances felt watered down so that all the personalities didn’t conflict with each other too much.
    Now I know it’s a movie adaptation of the comics, so you’re supposed to through logic out the window, but some of the moments in it just made me roll my eyes eg: Blackwidow getting (at best) a glancing blow from the Hulk and didn’t suffer anything injuries.
    Again, thought it was a great movie ^ ^

      Harsh dude. I was just voicing my opinion. No need to be hostile about it. I can give you some very good reasons why - in my mind - The Avengers failed as a superhero ensemble movie.

      But rather than go into that, I will say this: the deus ex machinae I was referring to were:

      (www.rot13.com will translate these spoilers for you)

      1) Gung gur oyhr fgnss gung Ybxv jnf pneelvat nebhaq pbhyq crargengr gur vzcrargenoyr raretl oneevre naq pybfr gur cbegny.

      2) Gung nyy gur nyvraf sryy qbja qrnq nf fbba nf gur cbegny jnf pybfrq.

      3) Gung Oehpr Onaare jnf noyr gb evqr hc ba n zbgbeplpyr naq svaq gur tngurerq urebrf jvgubhg nccneragyl trggvat ybfg va Arj Lbex, be snyyvat ivpgvz gb gur haoryvrinoyr genssvp wnz gung jbhyq unir fheebhaqrq uvz sbe zvyrf va nyy qverpgvbaf! (V yrg guvf bar tb va gur vavgvny ivrjvat, ohg sbe fnxr bs pbzcyrgrarff va guvf yvfg, V'z zragvbavat vg)

      4) Onaare jnf noyr gb pbageby gur Uhyx va gur svany onggyr, ohg nccneragyl abg orsber gung.

      5) Uryy, rira gur Pbhapvy qrpvfvba gb ahxr Arj Lbex jnf n qrhf rk znpuvan, gur Pbhapvy'f guvefg sbe vaabprag oybbq univat abg orra nyyhqrq gb be uvagrq ng cerivbhfyl va gur svyz.

        Sorry, this is an embarrassing reply fail. :(

    Brilliant film.

    My favourite scene has to be the one after Thor and The Hulk finish fighting an army of monsters. Pure comedy genius.
    People who watched the film will know what I'm talking about.

      That was great. The cinema was in hysterics!
      Then the Hulk and Loki moment.

        That part brought me to tears in laughter.

          I kinda liked the "clench" quip from Ironman to Hawk Eye =P

    Joss does a fatastic job doing a light introduction of each of the team members while going a bit deeper with the ones which haven't had a full introduction yet without stepping on anyone's toes.
    The interplay between the characters is fantastic and Mark Ruffalo makes a better Bruce Banner than either Bana or Norton did.
    Hulk also has the funniest line in the film (I heard they got Lou Ferrigno, 80s hulk, to do the voice for this one) so keep an eye out for that.
    Also, the marvel movie standby of an extra after the trailer is there, but you don't have to wait as long as the others.
    Enjoy.

    RE SHANE: "It felt like an ordinary, pedestrian superhero movie" what else were you expecting?
    All the other marvel movies are exactly the same. I disliked all of them except iron man and thats mostly because of Rob Downey Jr and not great plots or depth. I dont think you can judge a movie like this based on plot holes or leaps of logic. It's just not the point of the movie. It's not ment to make you think or find some deeper meaning. It's supposed to entertain.

    As for Avengers. I went in expecting a basic action hero movie with action. And that's exactly what I got. The action scenes were great, the sound was good, there were great comic relief moments. Bottom line is, it was fun, entertaining and I enjoyed myself.
    Much to my disgust I saw it in 3D (thats the only version they were showing on Vmax) and I was pleasantly surprised that the 3D didn't ruin the movie. They did a good job at keeping in check and not over-doing it.

      Oh and hawkeye is a crappy character. The movie would have been perfectly good without him

      I dunno. Nolan revived Batman for me. I hoped Whedon would do the same with the Marvel universe. And there's no reason he couldn't've done it.

        The difference being Nolan had a clean slate. Whedon had to fit them in to an already established world.

          I'm not sure I agree that this is a good enough excuse to settle for mediocrity.

            Let me explain it better:

            Nolan was able to create the look and feel of the Batman from the ground up. He had complete creative control.

            Whedon had the obstacles of using already established characters in an already established universe.

            You have said yourself that you are not a fan of the current Marvel movies yet by the sounds of it you went in to the Avengers expecting a stand alone story in a stand alone universe (I even warned you on TAY about this - not trying to sound defensive).

        Whedon has a good track record of making something good and f**king up the end...

    Worth watching if you are even remotely into any of the comcis (or enjoyed the previous films). Loved every minute of it, and even went to a midnight screening on ANZAC day just to see it.

    It's great, mindless fun, I think they tied everything together nicely. I attempted to watch Captain American again after seeing the Avengers, it's a bland compared to the Avengers, atleast for me. Definitely one of the best films I've seen this year, only complains would be that the aliens are generic and not enough screen time for The Hulk purely because he's awesome.

    Captain America*... haha

    I had high expectations for it, and it went even above what I thought it would!

    The humor was spot on, the action was great, and the characters themselves worked together fantastically. Was probably my favorite superhero movie in a long time, I'm gonna go see it again soon!

    I thought it was great but for 3D junkies be warned the 3D for this movie is terrible. We're talking Clash of the Titans bad ;)

      Not my experience. The effect was kept deliberately mild, but had a few nice moments where the 3D added to the atmosphere. Don't think it ever really detracted, IMHO. It's no Avatar, but it's no CotT either.

    It's a classic big Hollywood movie, except its actually made well rather than cheapened, go see it if only for the guilty pleasures that are the fight scenes involving the Hulk

    easily the best super hero movie I have seen. I had very high expectations and loved it. Go see it at the best 3d cinema you can find. Easily the best use of 3D I have seen too.

      Serious? Terrible 3D IMO. Its another poor post job where you only ever saw some depth in the scenes with heavy use of CG. Mainly the last fight.

        went with a group of 10, Normally not too thrilled about 3D but we all thought it was better than normal. Definitely no CofT. We saw Avengers in a new Reading Titan XC movie theater (holy freaky doolly). That possibly might have a bit to do with it.

      I wouldn't say it was terrible 3D, but by no means the best I've seen. Did nothing for the film, I thought.

    I thought it was the best Marvel movie since Ironman 1 and best superhero film since Watchmen.I dont think it really needed Hawkeye or Black Widow and leaving them out would have left more screen time and development for the others and Fury.
    I would say it defineatly delivers 8.5/10.
    Pity it couldnt have Spiderman as it semmed weird them trashing NYC without the web-crawler.

    yep awesome movie. Hulk is definately the highlight.. "puny god" scene.. all I'm sayin..

    I saw it on Saturday at Imax and went in with a lot of doubts about how they could shoehorn six or seven superheros into the one movie without it being bloated and eventually tedious.

    But, I have to say, I was completely surprised at how tightly plotted and written it is. No one outwears their welcome, and nothing feels forced. A great script with many genuinely funny gags and a really compelling villainous turn from Tom Hiddlestone as Loki. And someone has finally nailed Hulk. Hope there'll be a Ruffalo Hulk film coming.

    Utlimately, I thought it was the best Marvel film since the first Ironman.

    PS I saw it in 3D and agree that it's pointless. It wasn't awful, in fact it didn't even detract from the film. But it certainly didn't do anything for it, either.

    What needs to happen now is for Marvel to get all its movie IP's back from Fox (X-men, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, Wolverine) and get a whole Marvel universe continuity thing happening. . . just like the comics.

      Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

      The "Marvel Universe" element is one of the reasons I love this film so much.

    Lot of negativity here. Thought it was amazing and way better than the other marvel movies. This, dark knight and xmen:first class are top tier superhero movies. If you want art, go watch Shame. If you want blockbuster, this is it.

    I've never been a huge fan of the Hulk. And yet somehow despite him being a little on the small side in this movie you can't help but come out a fan of Banner's 'Other'. I'm sure some of that is helped by way Banner is portrayed by Ruffalo.

    Overall the movie was better than I expected - but it's still a popcorn movie - just one I might have to go see again because I know there were some wry comic references I missed.

    One thing Im trying to track down is who was the waitress at the end? Her name badge said 'Beth' or 'Betsy', or something.
    The camera focused on her looking out the restaurant window.
    Then, after Captain America saved a bunch of people in the restaurant, as she was walking out, her and Capt made eye contact.
    Then, at the end, she was one of the ones being interviewed by the news reporter, saying "Capt saved me" etc etc.

    She was played by Ashley Johnson. The movie credits her as 'waitress'.
    Im thinking (hoping) its a future love interest or sidekick character for Captain America. Like 'Golden Girl' Elizabeth "Betsy" Ross.

    Hmmm. . .

    I personally loved it. I enjoyed the way Iron man and Cap' play off against one another, I loved the way that Banner and Stark work together so well! I especially enjoyed the Lord of the Rings reference by Iron man, directed at Hawk Eye.

    It's about the only movie in the last 2 years that the price of the ticket hasn't outlasted my memory of the content in the movie.

    the movie was fantastic! as far as superhero movies this this is one of my personal fav. the action didnt feel like it was over killed, the funny scenes didnt feel like it was cheap jokes like the last TF movie. plot was rather obvious going in to the movie but i thought the way it was played out was pretty good. lets be serious no ones goes to see these movies expecting a mind blowing plot.

    each character had it moment, and hulks was the best imo.

    i saw it in 3d. and alot better than i was expecting. im not sure if the movie was lacking 3d scenes or if i was too into the action but i didnt really notice any big 3d effects. the only down side is, in 3D the actual screen area is pretty small. ( was at VMAX and its a huge screen).

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