Gamers 4 Croydon Campaign Goes Full-Time

Gamers 4 Croydon Campaign Goes Full-Time

Gamers 4 Croydon founder David Doe has quit his day job to focus his efforts full-time in running against Michael Atkinson at next year’s South Australian state election.

As Australia’s first gamers rights political party, Doe is campaigning primarily on the issue of an R18+ classification for video games. He will be standing a candidate against staunch R18+ opponent Atkinson in the seat of Croydon at the March 2010 state election.

Until recently, Doe had worked as the Quality Assurance Manager at a Melbourne games development studio. But he’s now decided to “put his money where his mouth is” and work full-time on the Gamers 4 Croydon campaign.

“As much as I love testing videogames for a living, there is something more pressing that needs my attention for the next few months and, sadly, they cannot co-exist,” Doe writes on the G4C website. “The quality of my work in both spheres was beginning to suffer and I want to make sure I excel at one of these endeavours for the next few months at least.

“With thanks to my wonderfully understanding and supportive wife, and some good savings strategies, I’ve resigned from my position as QA Manager and am now working on the Gamers4Croydon campaign full-time.”

The move to step-up the G4C campaign comes in the same week the federal government finally released the discussion paper on an R18+ classification for video games to the Australian public.

“This is one more step towards having a responsible classification system that seeks to appropriately label all content,” Doe told Kotaku. “I am hopeful that we will be able to mobilise as many gamers, responsible parents and civil-minded individuals to show their support for the rating.

Doe also has some advice for Kotaku readers looking to make a submission:

“Read and re-read the questions before answering them,” he says, “then draft, re-read, then spell-check your comments before sending it through. We have until the end of February, so there is no need to completely inundate the Classification Review with emails, faxes and letters today.

“Tell your friends and family! Print extra copies and take it them to the next barbecue and talk to people about it. Get them to give their honest opinion about it and offer to send it in for them. We need to be the motivating force behind the positive submissions, because just as surely as we’re doing it from our end, you can put good money that the ‘against’ team will be out in force as well.”

Full-time [Gamers 4 Croydon]


  • Doesn’t the release of the discussion paper make running against Atkinson not worth it anymore? I mean sure it would be still nice to beat Atkinson, but the main reason is no longer valid. Come February this debate should be over and we should be getting an R18+, right? right? I’ve submitted my opinion like so many others. It has to pass!!!

    • unfortunately no, they still have to make atkinson change his mind, even if they all agree he can effectively veto it on his own.

      • If we are lucky, he will become enough of a political liability for his party to reshuffle the cabinet. There are other SA Labor politicians who could be AG.

    • The road is long and arduous and the discussion paper is exactly that a discussion to help determine the governments stance on R18.

      The attorney generals will still need to agree and can still veto it even if public groundswell says yes. In a democratic society even if the vote was 60 for 40 against, then it should occur because the MAJORITY want it.

      The problem we face is that the bullshit media in Australia have run with this and have a clear agenda to paint it in the worst possible light, they have no idea.

      I have heard that should Atkinson roll over and say ok yes you can have it that the WA Attorney General is ready to step up to the plate and say No. Currently he is letting Atkinson take the heat because well he just doesn’t need it but he does not support R18 for video games either.

      What the discussion paper does do if it comes out for R18 is make a whole lot harder for politicians to argue they are acting in the interest of the constituents and that is what they want. But it doesn’t mean we automatically get it.

      I have zero doubt that the reason this issue has finally come to a head is the work of people such as David exposing this and getting media attention.

      All we need to say is look if you don’t support R18 for games then guess what to be fair and just you should be against R18 for movies and outlaw them.

      If R18 was gone for film, we would have a massive shitstorm, but at least then all media would be treated the same. Wouldn’t happen though because Australians would arc the fuck up and tel lthe government where to go on that one…

    • I’m pretty sure Atkinson has to agree for it to be changed. Being the stubborn close minded man he is, I doubt he’ll ever change his ways.

      The best chance we got is to get rid of the Rann Labor Government altogether, allowing a new Attorney General to be put in place by the Liberals.

    • No, no it does not. Every single person in Australia could make a submission saying that there should be an R rating but if Atkinson still opposes it, it’s dead in the water.

      It’s unlikely that Atkinson will get unseated in the next election. It’s far more realistic to get the ALP thrown out of power instead. I don’t like the Liberal party, but this is your hot button issue, that’s what you should be aiming toward, a new AG.

  • Gamers4Croydon deserve respect for putting in a credible and spirited campaign to dislodge Atkinson. They’re not the only party who take the issue of censorship very seriously however, the 2010 SA state election is likely to see a number of parties for whom censorship is a core issue.

    The Pirate Party is intending to contest the 2010 SA state election and is strongly opposed to censorship regimes that deny informed adults access to lawful cultural product.

    • Doesn’t the pirate party condone piracy?
      Like… of the illegal kind?

      Most of the entertainment industry’s audience is non-commercial. How can you seriously expect that policy to fly? You’ll cost Australia billions of dollars in tax revenue alone

      • No.

        We are working from within the system to make non-commercial copyright infringement legal, as well as fighting to protect civil liberties such as freedoms of speech and association and the right to privacy.

        As part of this, we are against all forms of censorship, such as Senator Conroy’s plans, and the lack of an R18+ rating, which effectively censors adult-oriented games.

        We don’t condone illegal activity. We want to make certain illegal activities no longer illegal.

        David Crafti,
        Pirate Party Australia

        • Sure, so (and correct me if I’m wrong):

          – Your party does not condone piracy
          – you’re making it legal to ‘infringe non-commercial copyright’

          Lets look at the definition of infringe, shall we?
          1.’Break or violate a treaty, a law, a right etc; Break in or encroach on something’
          2.’conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; “He ran afoul of the law”; “This behavior conflicts with our rules” ‘

          So your policy is to legalise the violation of copyright law. To Break the law.

          I’m a game developer. Why on earth would I want to support a party like yours? G4C legally opposes one sensible cause.

          Perhaps everyone will just support them shall 🙂

          • SirFlashington, I’m pretty sure that if something’s legalized, it’s no longer breaking the law. 😉 It’s worth remembering to begin with though that Copyright Infringement is not Theft, and is not a criminal offence, no matter how those ads you see in the cinemas may portray it.

            Seriously, I think the Pirate Party is certainly on to something in that punishing people using peer to peer networks and so forth hasn’t really worked, for either the software, music or film industries. Instead, finding ways to remove users incentive to source things through these methods should be encouraged. Here’s a relevant extract for you from the Pirate Party draft platform.

            “This does not, however, mean that we do not recognise the economic importance of cultural works, and nor does this policy preclude their exploitation commercially – it is a policy in response to a shift in the means, and rapidity of culture and information transfer which present opportunities for new models of commercial distribution and industry instead of yielding and adapting to the paradigm shift created by this disruptive technology, has instead sought to cripple it by lobbying for draconian legislation which compromise your rights. Firms must be forced to accept and adapt to the structures of this new economy, there is absolutely no logic in perpetuating inefficient and stale models by aiding their respiration through antiquated legislation. The best place to see a movie, will still be in the cinema, a DVD or digital download service will still provide convenience and features consumers will be willing to pay for, and musicians will always be best seen performing live. There are simply better and more efficient ways of ensuring that knowledge creation is rewarded than by the arbitrary expansion of intellectual monopoly.”

  • “ANY AND ALL donations that continue to come through the web-site’s PayPal link will only be used for campaign material and electioneering supplies – they are NOT in any way shape or form going to be used as a form of income.”

    What are other gamers thoughts on this?

    • well it means that he can’t do it out of his own pocket anymore. I can only assume he’s moved back with his parents to be able to afford such a bold action. It’s quite noble really, which is exactly why I donated $50 right after reading the article – as any rallies occur on Saturday’s when I’m working and the only other way to contribute with via the public consultation, I consider it $50 spent well.

    • They’ll likely be strapped for cash for the campaign anyway, so there wouldn’t be buckets of cash to pay yourself with anyway. Not to mention political donations rules that have to be followed.

  • He quit his job to help get us an R18 games rating… wow… thats so nice of him. I hope Theres another rally in Adelaide soon so I can go, I havent been able to go to one yet.

  • If a Billy Connelly Stand up act is aimed at adults because of its adult content. Does removing the swear words make the content any less adult. Of course not. But this is what is happening to our games in aus, and kids are now having access to adult content that is filterd down, but it doesnt make it any less adult related material. Think about that one Mr Atkinson

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