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    Morning, TAY!

    I lost my first Splatfest over the weekend. Damn Team Tidy, you ruined my streak! It's everybody else's fault but mine. (Just goes to show how little you personally actually contribute to the total scores though. I think my teams only lost around 5 or so times throughout the entire day but Team Messy dominated both the popular vote and win-rate. Ah well, still got 18 Snails).

    Also I made some more Mario Maker courses if anybody is still playing. Here's a code for one! 0435-0000-0055-3D54

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      Team tidy nooooo. How could we possibly lose with our desire for uniform and thorough ink coverage?? Oh well, didn't get a chance to play too much yesterday, at least I won most of my matches.

    Hey broooooooos and brooooosephines!

    Anyone played The Ties That Bind yet?
    I'm keen to start putting together some global stats on player choices, so please give it a go, and let me know the results code the game spits out for you.

    I'm also keen to receive any feedback you might have, regarding the balance, your satisfaction with the availability of choices, glitches, bugs, and any other comments you might have. This is a prototype and all feedback collected will inform future development!


      I will do so when I have some time, is that okay?


          Oh, but I have to finish constructing Elsa's cape... I won't be able to concentrate.

          Wait, you're joking, aren't you?

            Haha, of course I am!

              I'd like to give it all the attention I can give it, so I'd rather not be doing other things

    What up Taybees?

    I had a pretty cool weekend, hung out with @rocketman on Saturday. Went and saw Dragon Ball Resurrction F which was surprisingly good. I was expecting it to be stupid but it was genuinely good. Although I had to ask rockets who half the characters were because I hadn't seen the previous movies.

    Spent the rest of my weekend playing Destiny, finally hit level 40 and finishing most of the soloable quests. Enjoying the endgame now. Much easier to get gear instead of just never getting anything of value. Also tried one of the old raids with @cakesmith @blaghman and @saturday ... it ended about the way you would expect it to. =P

      If you are doing Crota at some point, hit me up as I have never done that one.

      oddly enough I'm sure if we took it seriously we might have been able to clear it with just the four of us. Then again, I had a slightly easier time compared to everybody else, because gravity was pretty much my main enemy.

    Thanks @os42 and @blaghman for the raiding!
    Took out first boss Sunday night.

    And Grats to all you cats who have already cleared it.
    "shakes fist"

      Congrats on the boss clear! Get anything good? And thanks for the opportunity to reexamine that first boss - learnt a few new things my earlier group had missed. So far, we're three bosses down. Had a crappy haul, tho - a ghost shell, a class item, and a few mouldering shards. That said, the raid itself is amazing, so I don't mind too much. :D

        Yeah got an awesome machine gun - heals you on triple kills and reloads itself when stowed, as well as bonus damage vs taken :D
        Looks badass to.boot.

        The whole thing is great so far, just gotta find a consistent team.

    I went to the weekend and all I got was a lousy change of cabinet.

    My pebble time steel finally arrived on friday, at the same time as the seiko I ordered to stave off the horologically-induced shakes. Both are fantastic, the Seiko will be getting more of a workout when I go diving in Fiji next month.

    I've also gone for a moustache for the first time in my life without it looking stupid. This is quite the milestone achievement.

    And super Mario maker is giving me Mario paint flashbacks of when I competed on A-maze-ing. I still have that gameboy somewhere...

      You found all the keys in the maze?

        The car boot made my day.

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          There was a key in there?

          There almost always was a key in the boot. But you are one of the few who actually checked the thing!

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            And the camera angle that had one behind the pole 90% of the time right in front of the camera...

      My cousin took part in A-maze-ing. It was great, the part where they both play the same game for a few minutes. I recall it as being Bubsy on Sega Megadrive. The funny thing is, my cousin, my brother and I had stayed up all night playing the same game the weekend before he took part.

      I remember being super jealous of his Gameboy.

      "A-maze-ing"? That sounds familiar...


      Ohhhhh, I remember this...




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        Ha, that's actually my friend's account.

        ...Videos from their Japan trip this year, but not of our one in 2013. I see how it is.

      You got to be on A-maze-ing?

      I hate you. We got shuffled onto the next pilot program and just got a crappy watch, no gameboy for me.

      I've had a Pebble Time for a bit over a week. LOVE IT.

      Was tempted by the Steel but couldn't quite justify it.


    Post spoilered because it's sad.

    My baby sister Sophie passed away last week. She was only 27. She hadn't been well, but developed a serious infection and ended up on the ICU. I got the news on Monday afternoon and flew to Darwin on Tuesday morning. She passed away that night. I'm very grateful that she passed surrounded by her family, a couple of hours difference and she would have been on her own.

    The funeral is on Friday. This is going to be a very long week.

    I ran the Bridge Run yesterday in her memory.

      I'm so, so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and yours.

      I'm very sorry for your loss. what a terrible thing.


      Saw the FB post. I can't even imagine... I can only assume I'd be utterly ruined. Sorry for your loss.

      So sorry to hear that, the biggest of hugs to you all

      I'm so sorry to hear that. Best thoughts and wishes.

      as I said on Facebook, massive condolences to you and yours, massive hugs. Having been through the family death thing recently happy to chat if you need.

      I'm so sorry to hear that :( Massive hugs and well wishes to you.

      Oh, no. I'm really sorry to hear that.

      Christ at 27.... I can't even imagine losing a loved one at that age... My sincere condolences cookingmama =\

      My condolences, CookingMama.
      At the same time, a huge thumbs up to you for what you did in her memory.

      Lots of love to you Cookingmama. You're the best.

      My condolences during this saddening time. Thoughta and prayers are with you and your family.

      I can't begin to fathom what you're going through, but my thoughts are with you.

      I'm very sorry CookingMama, I just followed your link and donated. My best wishes for you and your loved ones.

    Morning TAY
    Had a nice weekend just full of little things rather than big activities. Work on Saturday and then grabbed some fish for dinner. Got home and Tiglet drove me to drink so I had some of the wine I opened on Friday night. So basically just played with her until dinner was ready. Then when I wanted to play GW2 there was an update so I I just chatted with a friend for a while.
    Sunday Mrs Tigs went to the market so left us at home. We played some blocks and then did some vacuuming. Exciting stuff. Although I did work out I can actually get some vacuuming done is I have the front facing carrier and have Tiglet strapped to me while I do it.
    Then after we finished that we decided to treat ourselves so went down to the cafe for coffee and cake. I got a rather nice apple and berry crumble and Tigelt had the banana bread. So once we were done there, Mrs Tigs came home and had stuff for a picnic lunch so after Tiglet woke up we went down to a park. Lots of puppy dogs and bikes and trains so it was nice.
    Before dinner I managed to get some more cleaning done, sorting out the spice rack area which has been upsetting me for a while.
    Then ended up staying up too late to finish off some work but that was a good weekend.

    Just chucking in a reminder for pax meat!
    I have 33 people confirmed. We have room for 80! So tell yo friends, tell yo family! =P
    Also, do people attending want catering? It's an extra charge which depends on what food you want.

      @vaegrand - here it is!

        I like how you have no confidence in me =(

          Awh, that wasn't it, I was just getting in the spirit of 'tell yo friends, tell yo family'. :)
          After all, you're so diligent as to use Steam to contact!

            I still haven't got everyone. I know I am missing people, but I also don't want to annoy them.
            I linked @vaegrand to the initial tell me if you're coming post

              Whups. I missed that. Good job, anyway. :)

                Thank you? I'm not sure how to respond.

                  Yes, it's praise. You're doing a great job. I didn't want you to think I had no confidence.

                I still dunno how to respond!

                  You don't need to, but I'll just say it's very impressive that you're going to the trouble and thank you for doing it.

                  That way you can say 'You're welcome', if you like. :)

                You're welcome. Even if you're not coming.

        @vaegrand Did you put the email in correctly? I just want to make sure.
        It's [email protected]. Sorry. It seems as though payment hasn't gone through and I'm worried I gave you the wrong address.

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      Catering like last year with lots of little foods or catering as in full-on dinners?

      Also: @tech_knight I sent you the payment via Paypal a while back, did you receive it?

        They are platters. Platters or canapes
        Tier One - $88.00 per platter (20 pieces)
        Mushroom arancini served with aioli
        Bruschetta with roast peppers with marinated feta & thyme
        Sautéed silverbeet and haloumi filo parcel
        Chicken and leek pies
        Sausage rolls with a tomato and capsicum chutney
        Mini pizzas

        Tier Two - $100.00 per platter (20 pieces)
        Sautéed silverbeet and haloumi filo parcel
        Shepherds pie with capsicum chutney
        Charred garlic and herb calamari with ginger & lime aioli
        Corn cake with sautéed mushroom sour cream and chives
        Spiced eggplant and chicken skewers with mint yogurt
        Cinnamon French toast brioche with crispy pancetta crème fraiche almonds and maple
        Garlic butter king prawns
        Rare peppered beef with caramelised onion & beetroot horseradish on crouton. A reminder that Freeze is allergic to prawns, so if you want this, please be careful.

        Tier Three - $120.00 per platter (20 pieces)
        Duck pancake with cucumber garlic chive & a ginger dressing
        Marinated goats cheese walnut & caramelised onion tart with kale and truffle oil
        Lime cured scallops with pickled ginger purple carrot & Sheso
        Rosemary lamb skewers
        Smoked trout with salmon roe radish & cane pepper fraiche on quinoa & potato latke
        Freeze may also be allergic to scallops. Please don't shove them in his face, he's had enough hospital visits this year.

        Tier Four - Mini Dish $150.00 per platter (20 pieces)
        Pulled pork sliders with potato wedges
        Spicy chicken ribs & herb polenta chip cones
        Snapper fillets on velvet mash with a butter leek & caper sauce
        Garlic beef lettuce cups with purple carrot cucumber coriander & sweet chili lime dressing
        Kransky in warm buns with home made chutney dijon mustard & a light sprout salad

        Tier Five - Petite Sweets $110.00 per platter (20 pieces)
        Cinnamon apple crumble
        Mini lemon meringue
        Berry trifle
        Chocolate coated profiteroles with crème patisserie
        Cream brûlée

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          I reckon we should probably kick in for some of these. Happy to put in some extra toward it. Hopefully we'll actually get a chance to eat them before they disappear this time too! :P

            We have the place all to ourselves, and we have it for four hours. We should be fine =P

    Morning all. Hope you had a good weekend.

    I am still working through the Taken King content, as well as catching up on House of Wolves and Dark Below backstory. Would be keen to hit up strikes with Kotaku people if you're up for it. I'm sibalicious on PSN. With the new loot drop rates, light progression system and story it feels like a whole new game.

      Add me ColdCamV Im usually on Im just terrible at adding others

    Morning all!
    How was every body that belonged to a person's weekend?
    Mine was full of non-gaming related activities like 3 dancing achievement exams Saturday morning, taking my son to the mid-autumn lantern festival, having dinner with friends, going for a 4 hour hike on Sunday followed by more gym. I'm tired today :( Please send sleep posthaste!

      See above
      Sounds like a nice weekend for you, but based on TAY this morning it sounds like there is a sleep shortage, STOCK UP NOW!!!!

    “I think one of the things that we won’t be looking to do very soon is World of Dancing Unicorns.” — Wargaming’s head of EU marketing Keith Anderson, talking about what new games Wargaming will and will not be working on. What the hell @batguy, you had best sort your bosses priorities out

      Very disappointing. Maybe 2017? Unicorn-dance-fanciers are too big a demographic to ignore forever.

      It's kind of hard to see anything that Wargaming could do now. They've got Tanks, they've got Planes (though World of Warplanes was a flop compared to War Thunder) and now they have Ships. What's left, aside from the obvious (unicorns)?

      The answer is for Disney to throw the rights to Star Wars to them and ask them to make a World of Warships-esque game with the various capital ships of the Star Wars universe

        I guess they could do submarines
        Otherwise I guess they could do a sci-fi thing, planetside 2 style. Or your spoiler.

          Submarines wouldn't really work. Their bread & butter is team-based PVP with lots of tiered vehicles. They deliberately left submarines out of World of Warships after trying them very early on in the design phase and realizing they broke the balance of the game. The issue was that they were basically undetectable and realistically only Destroyers and Cruisers had a hope of detecting and combating them, but torpedoes are so powerful that you would usually not get a chance. As it is, right now the IJN Destroyers can blindside you with torpedoes in the water before you even see they're there.

            That could be a balance issue with trying to add it to WoW. If you locked it down to subs as sub vs sub might work. It is an odd one for sure and how it would work with the PVP who knows. Probably not fast paced enough for them. Have something like ship convoys like the original ground troops in War Thunder that are AI controlled.

              I feel like sub vs sub is only interesting in 1 on 1 conflicts where there's a cat & mouse type dynamic going on.

              Also for all the way they talk about it in movies and stuff, sub vs sub combat was very uncommon in WW2 and there has only ever been one submarine sunk by another sub while both were submerged

        There's also efforts to expand into new game styles with the same themes eg and completely different stuff like Master of Orion. So we're doing ok, not gonna run out of new stuff any time soon :)

        PS I think I can get beta access for Blitz if you or anyone else is interested? Let me know and I'll look into it when I'm back at work in 2 weeks.

          I forgot they picked up Master of Orion. That was a great old series.

          P.S. World of Warships has gotten its hooks into me bigtime.

      Or maybe it's just misdirection? I'm not allowed to give any inside information, but *taps nose*

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    If anyone is interested JB is having yet another buy 2 get 1 free blu-ray sale.

    They're also having a TV show sale on DVD's buy 1 get 1 free.

    Not that I need more movies, but hey, a bargain is a bargain in this economy :P

      Worst. Pirate. Ever.

        I have a parrot, I think you'll find that makes me; Best. Pirate. Ever.

        Edit: if it helps I have quite the err collection of questionably obtained media..

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          Really? Let's take a peek at said collection an.....

          [Finds all the MLP cartoons.]


      Sadly it's a "Buy one Season 1, get another Season 1 free". So I couldn't use it to get Season 1 and 2 of the same show :P

      Still, got Firefly for free out of it so can't complain.

        What a shame you couldn't use it to buy season 2 of Firefly.

        So you got .5 seasons for free...
        Not bitter or anything. *dusts off brown coat*

    I just want to shout out to my fellow Humans and/or Unhumans from Brisbane.


    I saw Jay and Silent Bob Get Old at the Tivoli on Saturday night. Great show, he spent most of it talking about Tusk, Moose Jaws and Cop Out. Mr Smith did also read an extract from the Moose Jaws script, I'm super pumped for it!

    Also for the movie buffs,

    The Gallery of Mordern Art is playing classic western movies until November.
    They are playing Mad Max 2 this Friday (25th) at 8:30, I kinda get how it's westernish but any who......
    I also believe they are showing it with an original 35mm print <3

    Finished The Witcher 3's story on the weekend. I don't see any game this year beating it out for GOTY for me...and that's including Fallout 4. Time will tell, I suppose.

      My thoughts are similar. I've played some excellent things this year, but Witcher was an unexpected delight.

      If only for the attention to detail in quests, consequences, cause-and-effect actually taking place out in the world. That's a world that was paid attention to.

      I played Dragon Age (still haven't finished, intend to do so) last week, week before, and noticed two quests which had steps which had been completed out of order and thus resulted in incorrect dialogue. Witcher 3? They almost always anticipated that and rather than just blocking you off and not letting the quest progress until you did things in order, it just got factored in to the world naturally.

      Something so simple shouldn't be such a revolution, but now that I've experienced it, it's noticeable anywhere I see it missing.

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        The only time I remember The Witcher 3 not reacting to order changes was with the Godlings. I cleared the one in the house first, and so he sees her and is like "Ahh, a Godling." And I was like "Cool, he just recognises her kind. Nice, nice." But then when I met Johnny in the Swamp he does the whole "Are you a dungleberry, a drumpkinburg? Oh, no, a Godling" and it's like YES YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT GERALD(sic) YOU SAW ONE TWO HOURS AGO.

          I just assumed the three look really similar at first glance.

            I can understand it working fine if you do it in the right order, but if you do it wrong he assumes correctly the first time, then fucks about the second, which doesn't make sense.

              From what I recall of the sequence, he meets the swamp one when it's hiding pretty deep in the cave and isn't entirely visible.

        The thing that impressed me the most about Witcher 3 is that CDPR finally managed to make something that wasn't shit. I reinstalled the first one after finishing 3 and I REALLY tried to like it, honest I did but it was just so damned awful... It was so bad that I sent them a tweet suggesting that they remake 1 & 2 in the engine of 3 just because I want the story but there's only so much crap I can endure for it.

        When I initially played the first one, I hated it so much that I completely disregarded the second and it never got a look in. By contrast I loved the third one so much that I'm now tempted to get the second and see if it's playable. Now that I think of it, the same thing happened with ARMA, 1 was abysmal and so I never ended up getting 2 until last year by which time it was too late since I was playing 3.

        I also really liked the way Witcher 3 had variables in the missions although I'd have preferred it if all the variables actually worked and all of the quests were able to be finished. I've still got a quest to find that merchant you can help hide from the guard (in Novigrad I think) and he just stands there at his new position being all unresponsive. There's also the end of Skellige's Most Wanted where you win the fight but it doesn't trigger the finish. There has to be some kind of progressive trait that the trigger is looking for and isn't finding it, probably from something like a rename or typo. Some people have managed to finish it so it has to be substantially more complex than an "is boss health <1" check.

        All of that said, fucking great game and I'm almost definitely going to buy the DLC when I read a few reviews of it. I doubt they'll do the Arkham Knight style disappointment but it pays to be wary.

          I struggled a bit with the first and ended up settling for watching a YouTube video. The second is very playable. It set my expectations for 3 and those were blown away.

            Hmm, well I may end up grabbing it on sale one of these days, if nothing else it'd be nice to have a save to import for replaying 3

          Witcher 1 had average combat but I could easily forgive it because it was an amazing game and story. I don't regret any of my time with it, and considering I've played it multiple times over the years it's a fair chunk of time :P

          I was surprised when I saw a tonne of people complaining about Skellige's Most Wanted, because it went off without a hitch for me. Shame that's not the case for everyone, because it was a fun little experience that hopefully made people think a little bit more about how they approach certain in-game events.

          See, I really liked the first one. I got the CE on the cheap way back, completely blind. It was on sale somewhere just after launch for like $50 because no one was interested and I grabbed it. Was immediately struck by the insane attention to detail. Combat sucked, but everything else about it was fascinating and a great contrast to the stuff I would normally have been playing (IIRC I went into it off the back of KotOR)

          The Witcher 2 is a vastly better game and honestly the only huge difference between 2 and 3 is the fact that 3 is in a larger open world. I knew I was going to love TW3 going in based off experience with the previous two.

          If they can hit the same level again with Cyberpunk 2077 I'd have no hesitation saying they're the best RPG developer out there now.

    Hola Tayberinos.

    Back at work today after 3 sick days last week. Voice is shot, not above a whisper, but otherwise I'm feeling a lot better.

    Spent my sick days working on my Pip Boy, which is getting there, and watching Netflix. I don't think I'd ever seen any of the Godfather movies all the way through, or if I had I'd forgotten- I reckon I'd watched up until Sonny getting killed in part one and Vito stealing the rug in part 2, so remedied that. Also played a chunk of DA:I, mostly tooling around, and on Saturday felt better enough to get back into MGS V, which is just fantastic. One of my favourite gameplay loops ever I think, it just feels right.

    Yesterday was feeling a lot better than I had so went to the ConCentric board game convention that I was SUPPOSED to be at Fri-Sun. Played some new ones to me (tokaido, Roll to Power, Ra) and some older favourites (Qwirkle, 7 Wonders, Pandemic). Bought Quantum second hand, so looking forward to getting it to the table.

    A Monday Morning Question: Sure, we have our board game conventions and comic-cons and Paxes, but what convention would you organise if given carte blanche?

      GimpCon: Save more on a ticket depending on how much latex you arrive in, free ballgag with every eadmission.


      Actually that would be terrible.

        Dragonballas are Dragonball fans who have sideways trucker hats and don't wear belts right?

          Non-licensed Dragonball themed trucker hats.

      Robocon, appreciation for all robot/android characters in series/movies/video games, mainly revolving around artificial intelligence and how far it's gotten.

      This could also be known as a Skynet Demo :P

      A Musical Theatre (and Movie, I guess) Convention.

      You'd get stars from the latest shows giving talks about what it's like, highly organised flash mobs throughout the day, I'd have an excuse to invite Tim Minchin and just like, talk to him so much. I'd have to have Stephen Schwartz, Hugh Jackman, and Idina Menzel there as well.

      Basically I'd just use it as an excuse to try and hang out with the elite of musical theatre. And have none of them turn up to my musical convention.

      Oh man, I could strike out on Anna Kendrick. That would be fantastic.

        Wait, Lucy Durack. Oh yeah, I could strike out so hard there.

        And be intimidated by Jack from So You Think You Can Dance, because that dude didn't think he could dance, he fucking knew it (played Link in the recentish Aussie run of Hairspray).

          I'd definitely go just to strike out on Anna Kendrick, cuz at least I get to meet her :P

    "No games 2015" is a failure.

    I allowed myself 3 exceptions: Bloodborne, Witcher 3, and Fallout 4.
    But I was weak. I caved.

    In a fit of retail therapy, I bought MGSV.
    (Which is amazeballs levels of fun. Damn, you guys, propelling men and animals into the sky NEVER GETS OLD. EVER. AND THE DOG IS ADAWWWWWABLE I LOVE HIM AND WANT TO PET HIM AND PLAY WITH HIM AND GIVE HIM CUDDLES)

    The only way this could be salvaged is to swap FO:4 with MGSV and call that the 3. I could probably survive the month and a half without it, especially with holidaying, but the Collector's Edition Pipboy necessitates the 2015 purchase.

    I'll still finish the race anyway, but the 9th month lapse means disqualification in my eyes; continuing is merely symbolic. My willpower... it is not strong.

      I think that the sheer volume of games you've managed to avoid buying makes this year/exercise a win for you. Also, the 3 games thing is a nice idea until you realise that Fallout 4 could be the fourth game you buy. It's like maths is telling you it's OK. Right? RIGHT?!?


      *dives out the window*

        I think that the sheer volume of games you've managed to avoid buying makes this year/exercise a win for you.

        Yeah. I think as long as he doesn't go berserk during the holiday period (the real cash/time sink) it's a pretty big win.
        Besides, one year, one month, ten months, thirteen months, they're random points in time. One year just happens to sound nice. If he set out to do six months without games he'd be patting himself on the back, but instead it's a failure because an unanticipated game showed up nine months into it (we all knew MGSV was coming, but we thought it'd be MGS5 not this crazy awesome new take on the series). If he tries it again he'll have the advantage of a personal best to aim to beat rather than just a random date on the calendar.

        Plus if he tries it again next year he'll know to leave himself a wildcard to allow for a situation like this (maybe attach some conditions, like a month long cooling off period). It might sound like cheating, but I think MGSV proved that the original rule set needed refinement to handle this. Odds are it'll make it easier to resist buying an unplanned game because it'll cost him the wildcard he might want to use later.


        Rize brings me up... and you put me back down. Where I belong. In the dirt. Like the miserable, weak-willed worm that I am.

      Looking back I've actually had a pretty tame year.... Mostly thanks to money spent in/on MMO's =P That said yours puts me to shame!

      I think I've only bought Wolfenstein The Old Blood; Bloodborne; Witcher 3 and MGSV. Only remaining purchase for the year is FO4. No wait... there was also Helldivers, Oreshika Tainted Bloodlines..... *frowns at self control* [email protected]

      MGSV is allowable under the same pattern that established the purchase of the other 3 - these are not yearly retail treadmill releases, they are big projects that have taken a lot of time and effort to deliver to a grand vision.

    I ended up buying The Taken King. I'm not sure if it's worth the $70, but it's nice to play though an actual story in the game.

      For what it's worth, I consider it totally worth it. Every thing is so much better.

        The first time I really started having fun, I think, and not just going through the motions was when I did that quest where Ikora Rey sends you back to the Vault of Glass.

        It was the first thing to show up as 'hard' on the level-selection for me, and initially it was. At one point I couldn't just yawn while face-rolling because I was getting overwhelmed by enemies, and died like... four times before waking up.

          The first bit I hit that I found really difficult was that goddamn tank. Nothing like a boss that can one-hit you :(

          Yeah, before that mission I was having fun; subclass was great, game structure and narrative was so much better ect. But was just cruising.
          But it was only on that mission that I started to respect and pay attention to the Taken as an enemy. That they went from kinda cool looking but same old to unholy foes that will mess you up if you take them lightly.

          Was a good moment.

        I've not got up to any of the TTK specific missions or PS4 exclusives or raids yet, much excite ^-^

    Gave Starship Titanic a try. But after two IRQ errors in a row I put it aside.

    Might try again later inside a VM but for now, I'm not risking my physical box.

    But at least GOG has replicated the whole experience, including the QuickTime style IRQ errors, :-P.

    Oh god, bought another monitor for $60 on Sunday.
    On the Plus side, I can now run games in triple screen! \o/

      On the negative side, the number of games that support triple screen probably number less than 60...

        WSGF would say otherwise.
        Fortunately, most of them are simulation games. :D

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      Before, when you said the price of your 2nd monitor, I thought, "Well, you'd be crazy not to!"
      Now you're just back to being crazy. A crazy guy.

    Hello TAY.

    Spectacularly shitty weekend.

    Dead quiet at work. I'm bored.
    Looking at assessments I should be doing & I have zero motivation to do them.
    Zero motivation for anything right now to be honest.

    How's things with you lot?

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      Yeeaaaah, that's a bit shit. Try and stay positive, cut down the communication with her (or you'll make yourself feel shittier) and in short order you'll be amazing women with your manly beard and knowledge of bands no one has heard of.

      Quiet as hell here too, because school holidays, and I'm also still too new to have any project work to do. I've spent most of my morning reading software manuals to wrap my head around OH GOD IT'S JUST AS BORING EXPLAINING IT TO PEOPLE.

        how fantastic are school holidays?
        none of the distractions & all the extra time to put off doing things is pretty great.

        I'm just doing mindless processing of journals trying to find authorities for certain requirements of a valid contract.

      Max is running around and clawing at a bit of twist tie.
      Other than that, fine.

      Sorry I couldnt make yesterday, was quite ill for half of it.

      My day is the calm before the storm of my performance review. and the calm before the storm of my work system change tonight

      SO i am going to delve into the bank of Rocket stories because this happened a long time ago and i think our situations are pretty similar

      About 3-4 years ago now i started talking to this girl, lets call her Blaghman, now blaghman and i talked all the time, I hadn't ever had a girlfriend and i didnt really talk about it because it was a odd situation. Blaghman lived in a different state and through our talking we formed a weird long distance relationship. It went on for like 6 months of talking everyday, first thing in the morning and last thing at night. I was excited that anyone was intersted in me and was really excited that we had plans to do some stuff when i went on a holiday to see her. 2 days before i went to see her she pretty much told me that she made a mistake and that she didnt want to talk to me anymore, she blocked all forms of communications with me to this day. I still occasionally think of emailing her and at least telling her no hard feelings. Its a loose end in my life and it bugs me way more than it should. I was a emotional wreck for ages and ages. But time has at least partially healed. I dont blame her and im not mad. It just makes me sad that i lost at the very least a cool friend.

      Tl;Dr i hope your okay, your situation sucks, i can empathize. Fell better soon.

        Thanks Rockets.

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      As shit as it is, at least there is some closure there. Last time you spoke of this it was on very rocky shores but you had no idea where you actually stood. You might now be adrift in the middle of an ocean, but at least you know it and aren't looking towards a cliff that you can't climb. best thing to do is ignore any of that crap she is saying now, breakups aren't nice and if she needs to blame you for this as a way to cope with the failure of the relationship then whatever.
      Good weekend with lots of little girls time and cleaning.

      That is definitely a shitty weekend. It might help to know that no-one is ever the bad guy of the movie that is their life. They are the struggling hero. This gives rise to people believing their own bullshit rationalizations for their shitty, selfish behaviour. Anyone who says, "You trying to make me feel responsible for this is abuse," is making a shitty excuse. Blocking is because they desperately need to not hear anything that might them feel like anything other than the Good Guy. The put-upon hero who had to make a hard - but right - call. Your odds of any form of acknowledgement from her about how she was the bad guy were always very low.

      On the plus side, you've got your first taste of the things wrong with them as a person, as a partner. I remember the second (and last time) I was dumped... she was a coward about it. "I just need to be single right now and enjoy that life - I don't think that's where you're at, you want something more serious." Her new girlfriend moved in within a few weeks. She told a bunch of lies about me to her scene friends to save face, either not thinking that would get back to me, or not caring; a couple I'd met were pretty sympathetic, in a 'well, she's our friend so we can't really say anything but feel sorry for you anyway' kind of way. The thing that helped me move on was letting myself see all the negative traits that I started realizing I didn't miss. The things that had always made me uncomfortable or annoyed that I had glossed over for the sake of being with her. The crass and self-centred aggressiveness in public, the hypocrisy, the demand that things always be black and white, 'with us or against us'. Friends are only friends so long as they agree with you and always take your side. Surprise moments of poorly-hidden racism. That helped take some of the sting out: recognizing that I didn't have to cringe any time these things reared their head.

      Maybe you'll see the same... maybe you won't. Either way, you've been put in a shitty situation and the only way I see out is through some grieving, then some moving on, not all of which will be fun, as you find yourself repeatedly surprised by the seemingly-innocuous things which bum you out. Just... be kind to yourself and let it be OK for these things to get you down. It'll be bad enough without beating yourself up for thinking it's stupid to be upset. Seen way too many people get stuck that way.

        You, my very perceptive friend, are striking on a lot of very familiar sounding points. A lot.

        @35 All I can add from my own experience is that if you're looking for closure in the form of some admittance of wrongdoing, you're probably never going to get it. Sorry to say.
        Don't torture yourself trying to get it, take the high road, don't respond. Even if you hear shit being talked in 3rd party circles, don't engage it. There's nothing to be gained.

          To be fair to her, she fell for an irreverent, easy-going guy with a dry wit who gave zero fucks what she thought of him and was happy to spar suggestively with her like she wasn't some smoking hottie way out of his league, utterly ignoring the apparent intimidation of her being known in our circles as only interested in women. (Which was actually the reason I was happy to banter with her like one of the guys in the first place, because I didn't think she'd take it seriously. Then she goes and asks for my number.) What she got after a few months of swapping body fluids was a 'nice guy' eager to please, willing to compromise for the sake of a relationship, polite and attentive, sickeningly sweet. I turned into 'boyfriend material' instead of the roguish, somewhat aloof guy she "fell for". It's fundamentally unfair to bait-and-switch like that. She thought she was getting a man, and ended up with an obedient puppy, eager to please. It's no wonder she had second-thoughts. Product did not match what was on the box. That's an oversimplification for and dismissive of acceptance of the facets of people that are uncovered with intimacy over time... but the differences we're talking about were pretty damn stark. I turned into a giant pussy. She could've handled the dumping better, by y'know... not saying shit to her friends, but whatever. Guilt and rationalization make people do fucked up things.

          The main point is... I was too dazzled by booty and keen to be in the relationship to ever have much hope of acknowledging her serious personality incompatibilities. The fact that she ended it hurt - a lot - but it was freeing. Years later, when looks have faded, I probably would have not been particularly thrilled with the abrasive, incompatible person left behind. Realizing that... really helped with the hurt.

            Your last paragraph hits my nail on the head perfectly again.
            And the part about me turning into an obedient puppy. Not the "irreverent, easy-going guy with a dry wit" bit though, I didn't have that much going for me.

            Ah man the booty trap.... Many a kind soul has fallen for that =P That said over time the memories of the booty trap always make up for the shit that happens in the fallout!

      Is this the same girl you've had troubles with and posted about in the past on TAY?

      If so I'm going to risk stating the unpopular opinion; devil's advocate and all (making a habit of it lately I think) and just say it as I see it. If this is the same girl (and I have a feeling it is) you guys were on rocky ground already (I know you had a great weekend where you got back together but attempting to salvage a serious relationship even after it's ended is pretty much the social norm; our brains have trouble accepting change). The problem with attempting to salvage something that had already ended is that you risk a larger more explosive end to the relationship (been there and it sucked). What you need to realize and accept is that it's not your fault and it's certainly not hers.

      She has every right to end any relationship whenever she wants and doesn't have an obligation to an explanation to herself or to you. That said given the intimacy of the relationship you shared it is expected however not owed. What/how your ex has reacted in the grand scheme of things is pretty normal; she's feeling shitty, she's looking for space and she just doesn't want to deal with this right now. Given she has complete freedom over herself she's allowed to act however she pleases; that said I can only say the long term emotional fallout she'll suffer by dealing with this situation in an immature manner sucks balls.

      But you still need to accept this; she has freedom over herself; the two of you are no longer together and she's made that clear. The silver lining and trust me this is a silver lining is now YOU have freedom of YOURSELF. I've said this before and I'll say it again; use this time to rediscover yourself as an individual and stop tying your happiness to others; yes mourn the relationship but also celebrate it. Learn to love yourself and treat yourself well; prioritize you and reprogram your mind away from the hormonal attachment it feels towards her. And if she comes crawling back a third time respect yourself enough to say NO.

      You deserve better, she deserves better. Love yourself as you before learning to love someone else. Sometimes effort alone isn't enough in a relationship. No one is to blame and both of you are to blame. I have no sympathy because when I went through this sympathy was the last thing I wanted; I wanted my friends to drag me out of my house and show me that life can be good again; I wanted people I cared about to help me refocus my priorities and remember before she came along I was doing just fine meaning I can be a damned sight better after she's left.

      A relationship is akin to a flame on a candle; sometimes it lasts a lifetime; sometimes a fleeting heartbeat but regardless of the duration and it's inevitable end it doesn't mean the memories of warmth and light it gave won't keep you warm in the future.

      You seem like a good dude; you deserve better and you deserve to meet someone better. Just pick yourself up and remember to love you.

        yeah, same one. & no, there's nothing wrong with an unpopular opinion.

        Though the only thing I've gotta add is that, sure, she has the right to end it whenever. that's not in question. But I have the right to not be treated like shit, used to facilitate her need to be the victim so she can absolve herself from any guilt & then cast aside just in order to make her happy.
        that's whats got me pissed off.

        As for your silver lining... It took me years to like myself enough to believe i was at a point where i had value & that i was worth sharing with another person. that was all undone in two days. I mean, shit... if someone spends a year saying they love you, & you feel like they actually value you & that maybe, just maybe you were right to stop hating yourself, but then they demonstrate that no, you're not actually worth shit in their eyes, then... I dunno. I'm gonna have a hard time believing anything like that again for quite a long while.

          Of course you have every right not be treated like shit; and the way to accomplish that is to not put yourself in the firing line. Your ex is clearly not dealing with this situation well; if knowing this you continue to put yourself out in the open for her to take shots at then there is a mix of who is to blame. The way for you to exercise your right to not be treated like shit is to get yourself away from a situation where you could be treated as such; attempting to reason with your ex or tell her how she's treating you is only going to worsen a bad situation with both of you acting badly.

          Your ex's way of dealing with this is to make it go away; sweep it in a rug; whack it in a closet and come back to it when she feels she's up to dealing with the personal emotional fallout; I query the long term emotional health of doing that however I've seen it happen before; heck I've been on the receiving end and the serving end of that reaction and trust me it sucks big time regardless of which side of the equation you're on.

          This is going to seem impossible given how emotionally attached you are to your ex but you need to take your focus away from your relationship and bring to yourself. What could you do for yourself to make yourself a little happier? Spend more time thinking about the things you want for yourself and less obsessing on what you've lost.

          And mate here's the point almost every person on the receiving end of a break up forgets. In order to have had the relationship with someone as amazing as your ex you must've been a pretty amazing individual yourself. If you look to value yourself through the eyes of others 35 you will always be disappointed. Always. You need to accept and feel right with who you are (something that took me years to come to terms with and still am coming to terms with). You will never be happy in a relationship if you aren't happy with yourself (after all it takes two to tango; how can that be possible if one person doesn't like to dance).

          Just because they don't love you anymore or don't say they do anymore doesn't mean they never did. It doesn't mean you need to stop saying it to yourself; I'm an incurable narcissist and even I forget to tell myself that from time to time. If you can live your life without causing intentional harm to those around you; you're already better in my opinion than the majority of the human population. I don't know how that can't be considered special.

          ""...Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
          Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
          It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us."

    I'm a bit wiped out after Oz Comic Con over the weekend however I'm glad I went. The event was bigger and better and, aside from the lack of guests that I wanted to see, it was a pretty great con. I helped out in the board gaming area for all of the weekend and unfortunately didn't get to run any RPG stuff aside from one game of Pathfinder. Everyone wanted to play D&D which I wasn't scheduled to run which was a bit of a bummer. Also, for some inconceivable reason they placed the Just Dance stage right next to board gaming area so I couldn't hear crap. I also have a new found hatred for the Ghostbusters theme for hearing it endlessly replayed over the entire weekend.

    On a related note, overheard a discussion between my friend who runs the board gaming area and Guy Blomberg who helps organise PAX Aus. Apparently the same company also runs the Comic Cons and the intention is to turn the Comic Cons into mini-PAXs. So Pax North could totally be a thing (@dc) :P

      @redartifice @tech_knight @freezespreston @negativezero @beeawwb @gingerchris86

      For TAY RPG tonight I can run Pathfinder if you guys want. Let me know if you still want to play but I'm aware that some people have other stuff that might prevent or inhibit playing. It might be a case of we have a break tonight and rejoin in two weeks.

        I'm okay either way, but if there's a significant number of people out, might be best to leave it till next time.

        I can barely speak so might have to pass this week

        I'm cool with skipping if there's going to be a couple of us out.

        Alright. Going to call no game for tonight. Sorry about this everyone but we'll meet up again in two weeks to see how the rest of the celebration goes.

          Boo-urns. But all good. See ya'll in 2 weeks. :)

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