Former Twitch Subathon Star Ludwig Suspended Days After Switching To YouTube

Former Twitch Subathon Star Ludwig Suspended Days After Switching To YouTube
Screenshot: Ludwig Ahgren / YouTube / Kotaku

It took mega streamer Ludwig Ahgren less than a week after abandoning Twitch for YouTube to get temporarily banned from Google’s video platform. His mistake? Briefly streaming the smash hit children’s song Baby Shark.

Ahgren was livestreaming himself watching other YouTube videos on just his third day on the platform when the feed went dead for the roughly 25,000 people watching. In a video uploaded to a secondary channel yesterday, he explained what happened.

“I was trying to look at the 50 most classic vintage greatest YouTube videos of all time to find what the single greatest YouTube video of all-time was,” he said. “And on the way I ended up listening to just a few seconds of Baby Shark which I won’t dare listen to for another second for the love of god. I am pretty sure the corporate overlords who own Baby Shark have an iron fist on YouTube, and so they took me down.”

Ahgren said he assumed that YouTube’s copyright ID system would simply flag the stream on the backend to apply the proper revenue splits rather than take him offline altogether, a miscalculation he won’t be making again. “This is a good note for the future,” he said. “It is kind of crazy that in the first four days on YouTube I got banned and in the first four years on Twitch I never got banned but growing pains, we’re getting through it.”

Before becoming the most recent high-profile Twitch streamer to leave the Amazon-owned streaming platform, Ahgren was known for breaking the record earlier this year for most subscribers ever. That distinction came after an around the clock subathon that lasted more than 30 days.

Copyrighted music has long been an issue for streamers who can see their work paused or temporarily torpedoed for even the smallest offences. Baby Shark is probably more of a lightning rod for legal trouble than most, however. The song has been around for a while, but a rendition of it by South Korean kids education company Pinkfong in 2016 went on to become the most-viewed YouTube video ever after it was watched over 9 billion times.

Children who probably shouldn’t be watching YouTube in the first place have been inflicting it on parents ever since. Now even streamers are learning to fear its lyrical deathgrip.

Comments

  • Which once again proves the utter stupidity of the entire copyright system, as if Baby Shark would ever have seen more than a few thousand views if it hadn’t gone viral.

  • Ahgren said he assumed that YouTube’s copyright ID system would simply flag the stream on the backend to apply the proper revenue splits

    This. Why are they not doing that?

    • Why did he assume in the first place?

      He pulled the pin and jumped over to YouTube, even made jokes about how Twitch DMCA issues are bad… without doing his due diligence and realising its just as bad or even worse on YouTube.

    • Because it’s unauthorised copyright violation, and taking the video down vs. claiming a revenue share is up to the copyright owner.
      Fundamentally it’s not YouTube’s handling of this that’s the problem. The problem is that copyright law is fundamentally not designed around the way that music and video is now used online.
      If YouTube fail to handle a copyright violation properly they could be on the hook for hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars, because the law isn’t designed around this sort of use. An instant takedown is the most conservative, safest choice for them.
      YT get a lot of flak for their handling of copyright violations (some of it deserved, particularly their assumption that the copyright holder is always right). Unfortunately it is, for the most part, a matter of GIGO: a broken system requirement results in a broken implementation. (Much like most of the ACB’s decisions to censor video games. The ACB catches the flak, but they’re just applying broken rules.)

  • “Children who probably shouldn’t be watching YouTube in the first place”

    Tell me you don’t have children without telling me you don’t have children.

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