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    Ep 4 of Life is Strange is out today. Already available on PS4, not sure about other platforms!

      <3

      Still haven't played since I was in Chloe's room watching her 'self medicate' two nights ago, I WILL get to Episode two by tonight even if it kills me!

        You can do it! I BELIEVE IN YOU!

    The new stuff coming in this Splatoon update looks great. In the trailer there was a squid kid with a straw hat! Straw hat!

      Gonna be king of the piratessquids!

        The catch is they have to use friendship to win every match!

          He's made of ink!
          How did that happen?!
          Yo yo yo, he took a bite of squirt-squirt!

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      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

      SO KEEEEEEEN!

        CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY WITH ALL THE TAYBIES!

        I'M SO FREAKING EXCITED BUT I HAVEN'T EVEN HIT 20 YET.

        Ahem. I'm a tad excited/happy

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    *sings to caffeinated beverage*

    It's like you're the only who really understands me, caffeine. I love you, man.

    Dear Taybes,

    Last night I perfected my guacamole recipe, and I had it for dinner and it was so so so good. I can return to my home planet now.

    Love, Jane

      Dear Jane,
      I don't like Avocado, but I am told by Avocado lovers that my recipe is pretty good.
      1 Avocado,
      1 tsp Lime juice,
      Salt and pepper to taste,
      pinch of chilli flakes.
      Stir

      What do you do with yours?
      Love, GingerChris

      Last edited 28/07/15 9:14 am

        Replace the chilli flakes with a bit of Cholula. Trust me. I'm not a doctor.

          Dear god man, I was aiming for subtlety not murder :P

            Cholula is murder? Really? I've got some sauces you should try. They're not hot. Promise. >:)

        I basically do the same, but I'm a fan of sour cream in guacamole. Not too much, but enough to make it deliciously creamy.

        I hate avocado and make Mr. Strange taste my guacamole to see if I've got the balance right. My recipe's similar to yours except I use a half or whole lime(depending on how juicy it is) because we have a lime tree so I may as well use them, fresh chilli, and fresh coriander leaves. People say it's great and there's never any left when I make it so I'm guessing that's a good sign.

          Lime Tree? Do Ceviche.

            ...I hate seafood.

            Once we had about 10 limes that needed to be used up so I made this cake that starts with simmering the limes whole to soften them, and then squishing the whole limes up with the rest of the cake mixture. Best cake ever.

              I did lime curd tarts when I had a surfeit of limes a month or two ago.

              Other than one fucked-up batch of curd they went quite well.

      Dear Jane,

      I'm kindly requesting for my all of TAYs well being that you share your perfected guacamole recipe prior to your scheduled departure.

      Many thanks in advance,
      Sunsoar

      PS. If any avocado haters are reading this over my shoulder *points to the door* you can leave that way.

        I don't eat it, But I will cook it for people, what can I do?

          Just, kinda, hang around towards the back there.

          No, further back.

          Back.

          Ok there.

        My friends Sunsoar and @gingerchris86

        Please see my recipe below!

        - 1 large Hass avocado, delightfully ever so slightly soft to the touch
        - Philadelphia Spreadable Cream Cheese
        - Sweet chili sauce
        - Spring onions
        - Lime juice

        Mash your avocado lovingly with a fork; add in your cream cheese at a ratio of about 1:3 with the avocado (this will always change depending on the yield from your avo - sometimes those pesky seeds are enormous!). Mix until smooth in a nice chunky way. Add in about two tea spoons sweet chili sauce and a good splash of lime juice, and your finely diced spring onions, and combine well.

        Enjoy with: corn chips, regular chips, crackers, bread, meat, burgers, by itself :D

        Yours in guacamole love,
        Jane

          YOU GUYS HAVE MADE IT! YOU'RE IN THE GUACAMOLE CLUB INNER CIRCLE!

          Where's the Coriander, Jane.

          WHERE'S THE BLOODY CORIANDER

            I know, I know! Like, I have no problem with it, but sooooo many people do.

              But those people are wrong*

              *Actually Coriander tasting like dish soap is a genetic thing. Those poor genetically inferior types are missing out because Coriander is the bomb.

                Whoa, I had no idea!

                  http://www.nature.com/news/soapy-taste-of-coriander-linked-to-genetic-variants-1.11398

                I always manically laugh at my sister when she says it tastes like soap...

                I just add more to the guac so there is more for me.

                Also, paprika is amazing in guac.

                  I can only handle the teeniest tiniest sprinkle. Goddamn Scoville sensitivity :(

                  MORE GUAC FOR DINNER TONIGHT :D

                Huh, I knew the genetic thing but not the soap thing. The most common complaint I've heard about it is that it tastes like dirt.

          Sweet chilli?

          And here I was thinking you were an okay sort. Was thinking. Not anymore.

            You're not a fan, or you think it's wussy? ;P

              Just hate the taste. But then I don't really like sweet things. Give me savory any day.

              Makes it awkward when in an office and you won't have a piece of the birthday cakes. The ladies who organise it always seem to take personal offense that I dont like cake, happened in every job I've had.

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                FInally... I thought I was by myself!

                Get all this baked stuff at work - cakes, tarts, slices and I grimace every time.

                Have just learnt it's better to accept a piece, take a half hearted mouthful, place the rest on a plate/napkin for remainder of day and deflect questions about whether or not I'm eating it. Then ditch it in a bin before going home.

                I generally prefer salty/savory over sweet (although I do still love chocolate, but I don't care too much for donuts, cakes, waffles, etc). I think the sweet chili just gives a teeny hint of tang to the guac that it's otherwise missing - it's a small amount in the grand scheme of things.

    The continued adventures of Blaghs in Empire Total War: Idiot ruler, genius commander, apparently

    I began my real (total?) war by declaring war on pirates, aligning myself with modern day Australia. Unlike the fruitless battle here though, I managed to capture both their provinces (turns out undefended provinces are easy to take), and eliminate them from the game. Which left me with two unhappy provinces that were bleeding money.

    Seeing my new financial weakness, one of my neighbours declared war on me. As a masterstroke of tactical form, I sat what remained of my European army in my capital, and watched as my opponent threw themselves against my walls.

    As I stared confused at their army another force swept in and took their city, removing them from the game so that peace could return to my land.

    So I declared war on the French, took two of their American provinces (turns out undefended provinces are easy to take), which started bleeding money and formed the cornerstone of my new civil unrest. Not happy with this much unhappiness, I then assaulted Paris.

    As I continue to write the book on modern warfare, I must commend the French on their brilliant tactics. After I knocked a hole in their wall, they proceeded to slowly funnel their troops out, into a waiting semi-circle of guns that mowed them down. What I didn't expect was that due to a miscommunication, 18 of my 23 casualties were due to my own cannons, not the enemy's attacks. Genius work.

    Satisfied with my extremely happy population (unhappiness was in the double digits in Paris, which is an achievement), I retired, safe in the knowledge that I would return to a prosperous land, particularly since Spain declared war on me in response to the capture of Paris.

      I see you share my genius for strategy. Always ensure you troops are more afraid of you then they are of the enemy.

    For the food lovers,

    I made Stuffed capsicums last night,
    Risotto rice boiled off and then fried with Onion, Mushroom and Baby Sweet corn.
    With that we served some Crumbed Veal. Really Nice :)

      Stuffed capsicum is so rad. If often make it with a mix of soft cheeses and flavoured balsamic vinegar.

        I make single-bite nachos in capsicums and mushrooms - so good.

          Omg that somehow made me think of making single serve lasagna's in Capsicums....
          Time to buy more capsicum...

            Yes! I love teeny versions of big meals. I made this awhile ago - it's about an 1.5 inches squared. - http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52a474b4e4b0d82de8bb5240/t/53113b8ae4b0ff95a86f3a10/1393638284053/zuccloseup.JPG

            Last edited 28/07/15 2:14 pm

        I love caramelised balsamic vinegar - to the point wife and I drive out to Mt Tambourine (90 min drive from Brisbane) to buy it because we can't find it in Brisbane.

        This is the one we buy: http://www.fuchs.net.au/product/caramelised-balsamic-vinegar-250ml/

          Heh.

          You drive 90 minutes for Fuchs' sake.

      I like stuffing the miniature capsicums. Rice & lentils is a nice mix

    Was there anyone trying to find a copy of Discworld Ankh-Morpork? The board game is out of print but I found two copies on shelf at Good Games - Central in Sydney. $70 + $15 postage. It's a good price. If anyone is keen, send them an email.

    Dear Splatoon talk,

    Please stop making me want to buy a Wii U.

    Sinceriously,
    Lambo

      You're a squid now, Lambo...

      You're a kid. Now.

      If it helps at all in my opinion you shouldn't buy a Wii U for splatoon,

      Buy one for Bayonetta!

      Buy one for Wonderful 101!

      (wow that's a mouthful)

    So I've officially been sucked down into the depths of J-Drama... It was really only a matter of time, come to think of it...

    Last night I watched a show called "No Dropping Out" about a 35 year old woman who goes back to high school for some reason. It was stupid, ham-acted, didn't make sense... and I loved it.

    Don't cry for me... :P

      There was a show a while back with Stephen Colbert in the cast called Strangers with Candy. It was about a middle aged prostitute who goes back to high school and it was hilariously terrible in the best way.

    FOOD PAGE 3

    HOW GOOD IS FUD

      I LOVE FUD!

      Probably too much, to be honest.

      Need to start planning the menu for Can'd Meat though, which is the perfect excuse to cook some outrageous things.

        Hopefully if I make something to bring again this year it won't be a bitter disappointment! :D

        I keep thinking of contributing a food thing, and then I don't because I'm shit.

        Might try a bit harder this year.

          Nah, if I'm not busy in the kitchen I might have to actually talk to people or socialise or something, which just isn't on.

          Unless this is a veiled criticism of my cooking, in which case cook away!

            Nah, I mean bring something relatively pre-done, like baked stuff. Or, more appropriate to my cooking abilities, a bag of chips.

              Remember last time when I brought that beef jerky along and everyone nearly died?

              Good times.

        Are you making Blagh's patented chicken...things...again?

        Yes? Yes.

    My world is upside down.
    One thing I was always sure of in life is that people suck. Myself included. But there's been an increasing amount of events in my life where people are genuinely nice and I don't know how to react to that because I'm only used to people being sucky! :P

      Yell at them. Talk condescendingly about how people of a different age to them are so much better. Shiv them so that nobody will question your position on top of the "definitely-not-sucky" pile.

      Oh wait, no, seriously, act like your elderly age prevented you from noticing. Age is your greatest asset. :p

      I found something similar myself - except I found that me being cynical or assuming people to be crap bastards, sometimes led me to automatically assume people were being crap bastards even when they weren't being crap bastards.

      TLDR: People are crap bastards, but sometimes not as much or as often as you think.

      Last edited 28/07/15 11:27 am

    Mum just walked into my office to tell me (with great relief) that The Canberra Times didn't have anything about my Dad's paper, and that it looked as though the hospital wouldn't fire him.

    ...

    What the hell has my Dad been up to in Alice Springs?

      I heard he was surgically attaching springs to someone named Alice. Your mother was worried because every newspaper would've jumped at the pun opportunity headline if they found out about this.

        The NT news doesn't need an opportunity to make a pun.

      What happens in Alice Springs stays in Alice Springs.

    I get so easily distracted on Google maps these days. On the bright side, I now know that the following places exist in Australia:
    Stonehenge
    Texas
    New Mexico
    Bald Nob
    Diehard

      It's also hilariously appropriate that Bald Nob is right near Diehard.

        I like to think such things are not accidental.

        Iron Knob is also a place.

          I used to think that would be a hard one to beat but after finding a new Nob I've rubbed it out of first place.

            Unsure if the first half of that was intentional or not but bravo anyway :P

              I wasn't sure how well each joke would go together, but I pulled it off.

      There's a place near me called Condong that makes me giggle everytime I drive past.

      Bald Nob

      The product I used said no one would be able to tell I was balding

      *runs off crying*

      One of the signs my train passes by every day says "Welcome to beautiful Balls Head!"

      And every day I giggle.

    Mobile data cut out for some reason so decided to check up on the work computer.

    Ewwwww. What's with that giant pop up ad for Self/Less that covers everything? That's not obnoxious at all. Stuff like that is what makes me reach for the AdBlock button.

    So what's the deal with cookies?
    How do I achieve Subway cookie softness that keeps?
    I understand that brown sugar and molasses are more hygroscopic than your regular processed white sugar. And underbaking them. But the batches I'm doing just don't retain sufficient softness 24 hours after.
    Does anyone know what I'm missing?
    Also, ingredient effects for your daily cookie education.

      Eat the cookie dough unbaked!

        Hello raw egg salmonella!

          Hello?

            Just saying that most cookie dough and cake batter has raw egg in it, and eating it uncooked is generally not a good idea unless you like getting food poisioning.

            If it's a cookie dough without egg, eat away!

              My understanding (and backed up by a quick, bias-confirming Google) was that infection rates for salmonella in eggs is far less in current times than when that piece of advice started circulating.

              http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/03/salmonella_and_raw_eggs_how_i_ve_eaten_tons_of_cookie_dough_and_never_gotten.html

                This is true, and in large due to modern egg processing. But if you have home grown eggs, and if you're pregnant or immune compromised , salmonella is still very risky. The recent outbreak in melbourne at the Langham hotel sent 6 people to hospital, made over 30 sick, and one pregnant woman almost lost her baby after she went into labour 5 weeks early.

                  True. As a relatively healthy adult male with store bought eggs, those very valid concerns didn't factor in to my bias / response. :)

                One way to significantly reduce the risk is to make sure the egg shell cracks cleanly and you don't get any of the outside of the shell into the whites. Salmonella bacteria are most commonly on the egg shell in Australian eggs because of the fact the outside of the eggs are not thoroughly scrubbed.

                In the USA by contrast, they scrub the eggs which rids the surface of most salmonella, but can actually push the bacteria through into the whites directly as well as weakening the surface and allowing contaminants to pass through.

              Pfft, what would you know about cooking, Cooking Mama?

              Wait.

              That's a somewhat horrifying concept to me, considering how much I enjoyed the Japanese tendency to include a raw egg in all sorts of rice or noodle dishes. :(
              I've been meaning to do that all over the place with food here to help give it that Japanese flavour!

                As @beeawwb said, it's mostly not a problem. The salmonella tends to come from the shell of the egg, so if the eggs are clean, crack free, and good food handling is used, the risk is low for most people. And there's nothing finer than a soft boiled egg on udon noodles. (plus I LOVE oyako don)

                As I mentioned earlier, the biggest risk is for pregnant women (salmonella and listeria are both dangerous), small children, the elderly or anyone else who might become severely ill. The culprits are usually things like poorly cooked chicken or mayonnaise type sauces where it's been made and then stored for a period of time, or where cross-contamination has happened from poor food handling.

                It's mainly something to be mindful of when making food, especially for other people. For cookies and cake batter, things like Vegan No-Egg (primarily tapioca flour) and chia seeds can replace the binding role of egg, and are perfectly safe to eat raw.

                Yeah but the raw egg cooks itself with the heat of the food you're pouring over it and also it's fucking delicious so I'd take my chances with it nine times out of ten anyway.

      The answer isn't "just keep adding more maple syrup, it'll be fine". You'll just have to trust me on that.

      You can google the ingredients. My guess is the copious amounts of margarine & palm oil. Also, egg definitely stops biscuits getting crisp, which is why you should never use a recipe for Anzac biscuits that has egg in it.

      It might also be the baking, rather than the ingredients. Try a lower temp, and maybe try cooling them under a clean teatowel so that they steam, rather than crisp.

      Subway cookies are cooked from frozen. Not sure how much of a difference that would make but it could be a fun thing to experiment with. Most importantly, it's going to give you an excuse to make more cookies.

      I use this recipe and it seems to work pretty well.

      Generally stay soft for a few days - and if you try to eat them before they've cooled enough you're lucky to get it to your mouth without it falling in two.

      I'm guessing that the Subway softness comes from them being baked every day and fresh when you buy them.

    Yet again, I find myself wishing that Steam listed prices in AUD. "Oh, that game's only $12.99!" *buys* ... *receives receipt for $18.46 payment* ... *cries*

      If the government gets their way and they have to add GST to everything, we might yet see prices in Australian dollars.

      From that point on will determine whether we're using dodgy key sites and US gifting friends to buy games or just going with the regular storefront. :P

        Yep. However, it does mean getting less screwed by Paypal's conversion rates, which means sub-$20 games will be slightly cheaper than they are now, as GST won't apply...

        *reads news: "GST threshold for imported online purchases could be reduced to $0"* Oh. Oh.

    Well done me. I just said the following sentence to my regional director:

    "So Company X has dropped them like a hot potato and Company Y is now up the proverbial creek."

    I'm pretty sure such lame attempts at disguising swearing makes it sound worse rather than better.

    My old computer chair had completely fallen apart so I went to get a new one yesterday. The Officeworks I went to didn't have the chair I wanted in stock, so I had to go 20 minutes to another one to get it. It's a pretty good chair. It has arm rests. Hopefully it doesn't fall apart as well.

    Also got a new pair of shoes. Normally I just wear sneakers, but these new ones are what I believe are called "skate shoes". Just like all the cool kids are wearing.

      I really like the chair I have, but for some reason it occasionally lowers itself(for a week it'll do it constantly, then be fine), and the screws that hold the seat to the base slowly undo themselves.

      So my chair is haunted, but it's too good a chair for me to worry about it.

      Last edited 28/07/15 1:44 pm

        I have a lamp like that. My grandma gave it to me for my birthday when I was about ten, and occasionally it'll just start flickering like I'm in a horror movie. I like it too much to ever get rid of it though. Haunted items are the best.

        Wait a minute. Does this chair lower when you're sitting on it by any chance?

          Generally yes, though it will sometimes lower on its own.

    It's stupid quiet at work so I'm mulling over what uni subject to take next and can't decide... Have to pick from the following;

    Business Communication (sounds like complete drivel but has to be done at some point)
    Financial Management
    Monetary Policy and Risk Management
    Employment Relations
    Business Law
    Contemporary Issues in Entrepreneurship and Innovation

    Decisions decisions... *gets distracted and reads Twitter*

      Entrepreneurship. Hands down.

        It looks super interesting and a subject I really want to do but I think it's going to be tricky taking a meaty subject and studying enough to get the most out of it with family commitments. Might be one I stash away for this time next year when wife is on leave and has a good handle on having 2 kids.

          I say that topic for two reasons.

          1) my second degree was innovation and enterprise and I'M SO ALONE NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THE MATERIAL EXCEPT 50+ YEAR OLD PEOPLE (which is precisely the wrong demographic for entrepreneurship)

          2) Australia's innovation infrastructure and systems are horrifically bad. Some of the lowest industy/academia collaboration rates in the OECD.

      From a purely educational perspective and something you're likely to use in a career I'd go with Monetary Policy and Risk Management/Business Law. Probably the two most useful units I ever did in uni; right next to sex, power and corruption in asia =P

      P.S. looking at those units looks like a BBuS?

        Certainly is a BBus... The long lonely route studying online 1 unit a time juggling growing family and full time work. Sucker for punishment but I'm actually enjoying learning new 'real world' stuff.

        I work in a company where there is a Risk gate opener/modifier on our performance reviews so would be interesting to know a little more of the bigger picture... but @highperformance mentions it's a heavy unit and I also need to balance that with a pregnant wife.

        Tempting to take Business Law or Business Communication to cruise through to a the 6 month break I'll take after (basically so I'm not prepping for an exam when next baby comes along!)

          Nice dude; as far as I'm concerned everyone should do either a Law degree or a business degree at some point in their lives just to appreciate the complexities of the systems we live in. Are you majoring in anything within the bachelor's?

          Business Law is fairly easy since you'll be able to get the foundations of the unit just by asking yourself "what would I consider to be an ethical practice in the formation of a deal". The whole unit can be summarized with "be fair when negotiating a deal". It's the bread and butter for more complex units like corporation/taxation law *shivers down spine*

          Risk and Monetary policy was a weird unit when I did it; half of it deals in macro-economics and the other half dealt with statistics and cost management calculations. I never liked the risk management part personally; but I reckon learning about monetary policy is a must. At the very least it'll teach you how our economy's influenced on a larger canvas. So yeah maybe do this when you've got a bit more of yourself to spare cos it's pretty heavy stuff.

            Finance is the major and right now trying to figure out what to use my electives for. I don't like any of the official minors so I'm tempted to 'build' something myself and was leaning towards Information Systems.

            Studying via OUA so I'll need to investigate just how 'flexible' the electives are allowed to be!

            Appreciate tip for Risk Mgmt/Monetary Policy - removes a candidate from the pool for next study period.

            everyone should do either a Law degree or a business degree at some point in their lives just to appreciate the complexities of the systems we live in

            Somewhere, a physicist chortled quietly.

            That somewhere may have been at my desk.

              Fine fine =P I can appreciate that, my heart lies with science but my brain lies with business! If we didn't live in a capitalist society I would happily wile my years away in a different field of study.

                I have a degree in science. I don't work in science. There are reasons for this.

                  Mmm...

                  Unethical, undocumented experiment gone wrong and now the Pentagon has actually implemented CONPLAN-8888?????

                  Or... Money? :P

                  @sunsoar77 put it this way: if this line of questioning continues, keep your eyes peeled for black helicopters

            Nice dude; as far as I'm concerned everyone should do either a Law degree or a business degree at some point in their lives just to appreciate the complexities of the systems we live in*a million vomiting emoticons*

            I had to do one law subject in my degree and that alone made me hate life :P

      MP & RM fo' tha win!

      Students take that unit at our Uni and whilst it's a difficult and heavy subject there is more and more focus on Risk Management in every organization so being across policies etc. can only be a good thing.

      *Takes University marketing department hat off*

    Anyone here shop at Myer?
    Be interested in purchasing $250 of Myer gift cards for $200?

      25% ROI......; hmmm. That said I'll probably burst into flames if I stepped into Myer so I'll pass =P

      How does that make sense?!?!
      Super tempting though...
      Hnnnnnngggggggg...

        Yes... Yes.... give in to the dark side my young padawan..

        (I'm really bored at work)

        $200 you'd use is far more useful than $250 you wouldn't.

        Although, don't Myers gifts cards work through the entirety of the Coles-Myers group?

          There's Coles-Myers ones and just Myers one. I ran into that trap once when I gave my wife some once and she couldn't use them anywhere but Myer. After loudly complaining at the Myers service desk for 45 minutes they eventually gave up and swapped the cards for us.

          Yes I was one of those customers. Still, not like the parent company was losing any money so it shouldn't have been a problem.

      I'm interested... do I have to pick the card up in a dark alley though? :O

        Nah, junkyard at midnight.
        Or postage, with that whole interstate thing.
        Got them from work but I don't shop there.

        Hit me up at ...(picks email address from hat)... jormungand(underscore)xix(at)hotmail(dot)com

    Bored at work.

    Does someone want to attempt to teach me something interesting?

      YES! Did you know the P/E ratio of a share is effectively the amount of time a company will take take to make up the cost of that investment through its earnings? As such it can act as a gauge for the health of the company's earnings as well as the general investor sentiment for the company's ability to continue to make money!

      YAY KNOWLEDGE!

      Edit: Disclaimer - it's technically more complex than that; but consider that the gist of what a PE ratio effectively tells you =]

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        So a simple use of it is in calculating the apparent ROI on a trade?

          ROI is influenced by income/capital return over an investment; PE can't account for that directly however it does account for it in a sense. It's a direct relation between the share price of a company against (typically) it's yearly earnings. I.e. if a company has a PE ratio of 16; it would take the company 16 years to make enough money to buy back all its shares at its current share price. This means investors believe that the price they're paying for the share today (in theory) can be supported by the company for the next 16 years at current levels of earnings; share price traditionally goes up over time because as a company's revenue grows they believe a higher price is justified (this doesn't affect the PE ratio thought).

          However when a company's PE ratio goes up it means investors see growth in the company's earnings before they've actually happened and are willing to pay a premium price for greater expected growth (the reverse is true when PE ratios go down). Now the trick is finding what what the standard PE ratio for a company should be and figuring out if it's current PE ratio is at fair value; discounted or inflated. Let's take for example Australia's largest banks; they traditionally have PE ratios of 13-15 however more recently ANZ has dropped down to 11.8 while they others are still holding at their usual ratios. This means that the price investors are willing to pay for ANZ shares now represent a sentiment that they feel the companies earnings can only justify current share price for the next 11 years as opposed to other banks in the sector that have a standard of 15. If we assume the other banks have set a standard for what's a decent PE ratio within the industry then ANZ is trading at a discounted rate; the question to ask then is why is this the case and are the reasons enough to justify its current trading price to be a discount or is it still inflated.

          To summarize PE ratios will allow you to gauge the possible ROI on an investment; however it can only give you a glimpse. The rest needs to come from research and educated opinions =]

          Here's an interesting footnote/trivia - Large American stocks traditionally have PE's well into the hundreds; e.g. NFLX currently has a PE ratio of 239.29, going off what you know about PE ratios now why do you think this is the case? =]

            Investors are putting a big bet that the recent crazy jump in subscriptions (especially from Australia [assuming they're one entity in this regard?]) is going to directly translate into a massive profit increase in the future?

              Good one Rize; yes the reason NFLX has such a high PE ratio is because investors are expecting exponential capital/revenue growth; in fact a quick search shows forecasted PE ratio for 2017 is expected to be 99; meaning analysts are expecting massive growth in revenue over the next 1-2 years and have priced that into their expectations. One could argue this is quite a risk-driven view on how to invest.

              American companies (especially those in growth sectors like tech) usually have relatively high PE's and this is only partly driven by their expected revenue growth. The other factor in this equation is dividends; American companies typically pay low/0 dividends back to their investors especially compared to Australia stocks; preferring rather to invest all their excess capital back into the company. This has the double sided effect on PE ratios; one it adds more fuel for capital growth inflating P/E's, and it also removes a factor that brings down P/E ratios from calculations which is dividends paid per annum which has an inversely proportional relationship to the PE ratio.

              Hope I've given you some insight into investing =p

      If I wasn't just about to leave I would try and dredge up the least interesting thing I know that I could teach you.

      I mean, I guess I could just type about medical record rights in Australia, but just typing that has nearly made me fall asleep.

        I actually learned a bit about them when I was studying privacy laws in Australia. We were using fake medical data as a part of a database subject when learning SQL.

        The shocking twist that no one could have expected was that database security is hard.

      Step into my tent young padawan.

      We're gonna talk about Dendrimers.

      Most people would have done chemistry at school, and have done something to do with polymers, whether it's the nylon rope trick. Basically, you get a polymer when you attach organic molecules in linear chains.

      A Dendrimer, however, is what you get when rather than attaching polymers in a linear chain, you attach them in a branching structure (schematically Like so, but in a 3D structure.

      This class of molecules has a lot of exciting prospects. You can functionalise the outer groups, so you could make them stick to certain cells by attaching an antibody to the outside. They also have an inner volume, so you could put a drug within the gaps, functionalise the outside so it can get through a cancer cell wall (cancer cells are more porous than regular cells), and make it break down within the cell for targeted drug delivery.

      They've got a bunch of other cool stuff, as given they're bulky but distinct molecules they may lead to things like synthetic blood.

      When logged into a terminal server, why is it that when you select Start/User/Lock, it's not the same as simply hitting the Windows Key + L? And how do you combat this when a user has used the second method despite multiple instructions to use the first, essentially locking themselves out of their own computer?

      I'm pretty sure you already know about this, but I have no solution. I'm hoping you could teach me actually..

        If I remember this correctly, you can't pass the windows key function through an RDP session in the same way ctrl+alt+del can't. Like most restrictive issues, it's a security feature to prevent these functions being intercepted/imitated by dodgy stuff.

        Alt+Home will open the start menu but I don't think there's a pass-through keyboard shortcut for locking. I guess the technically correct answer is you shouldn't be locking an RDP session :P

        EDIT: By "technically, don't" I mean an RDP session is not designed to sit there indefinitely, it's far happier as a jump in-jump out connection. The frequent issue with terminal servers is that they're either never set up correctly or their performance is so shit it's not feasible to log in only when needed.

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          When I shadow another user's session, how do I combat that damn Caps Lock switchover when they have it on and I don't and then suddenly their Caps light is off but Caps is on..

          Restart machine, I know. :P

            Edit the machine's registry to reassign caps lock to shift :D

            ...probably don't screw around with the registry.

      I will teach you my best playdough recipe. If you have kids/nephews/nieces, a batch of this stuff is a perfect rainy day activity, or a fun present. It takes about 15 minutes to make and is MUCH cheaper than the shop stuff in tubs.


      2 cups plain flour
      1/2 cup salt
      2 tbsp Cream of Tartar
      1 tbsp fine glitter
      2 tbsp vegetable oil

      Put all of these ingredients into a large bowl and give them a mix. Then mix the rest in a heatproof bowl or jug.

      1 cup boiling water
      1/2 teaspoon liquid food colour

      Add the coloured water to the flour mix while it is still hot. Mix the dough with a knife until it starts to come together, and then mix with your hands. A large mixer will also do the job. Knead the dough for 5 minutes until it is smooth. It should be soft, pliable and slightly bouncy to the touch. If it feels too crumbly add a little more water. If it's sticking to your hands or the bench, add a sprinkle more flour. Store it in an airtight container or zip-lock bag and it will keep for 1-2 months, depending on how often it gets used (it tends to dry out before it goes mouldy, because of all the salt)

        Might give this a go this weekend! My daughter lost her mind the first time she was introduced to playdough...

          I'm a Playgroup coordinator, and playdough is our number 1 favourite activity, so I make a batch every other week.

            Is the salt and cream of tarter enough to dissuade them from eating it?

              Substitute with sugar and you've just saved yourself having to cook them dinner as well.

              Generally yes, and this recipe has less salt than some other versions. The cream of tartar doesn't have a flavour though, it's there to stiffen the dough so it holds shape longer. The bright colour and glitter seems to give the most indication that it's not food. We have maybe 1 kid in 20 who actually eats it. Most have a taste and then leave it alone.

        I found a recipe that uses jelly mixture. Takes a bit longer than your recipe as takes a while to cool down. Comes out smelling amazing and is exceptionally soft and pliable.

        It doesn't have the shelf life though and ours went mouldy in the fridge a little while after week 2. I think that's because it's got a fair bit of sugar in it.

          I've seen a lot of recipes from the US that use kool-aid as well, for the colour and smell. Shame it's hard to get here :) Honestly though, I'm happier if the playdough doesn't look or smell too appetizing. It's for playing, not eating.

          The trick with the colour is to use lots. When I'm mixing colours for playough I measure in quarter-teaspoons, not drops. Gives much better colour. Paste colours work well too, but because they cost more, I prefer to save them for cakes and just use the cheaper liquid colour in larger quantities.

          EDIT - have a look for playdough circuits. Salt playdough will conduct electricity, and sugar playdough won't, so you can use it to build simple circuits with LEDs and a battery.

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            Use red glitter and colouring, and call it redstone :P

      The 5 Why's

      Developed by Sakichi Toyoda, this particular form of iterative questioning involves reviewing a problem and then questions the reason for the occurrence of said problem.

      For example: Your company can't find a strong candidate to work in your company.

      Why?: Candidates are applying without the requisite skills
      Why?: We don't have specialist recruitment knowledge to write dis-ambiguous job descriptions
      Why?: We haven't employed anyone for this specific work function
      Why?: Because we broke AF
      Why?: Because we didn't budget properly to hire a person like this

      This theory of reasoning is a cause-effect relationship between a problem at hand, and attempting to discern what the root cause of the problem is so that you may address the problem at it's cause rather than at only a superficial level.

        5 Whys? Reminds me of when I try to explain something to my kid.

          Hahaha this was my thought when my colleague was explaining the process to me today, I just kept saying why when she told me about a problem she was having.

          She regrets telling me about this now.

          I guessing that is because you throw up your hands after 5, not because they ran out of whys

        The 5 Why's - Developed by Sakichi Toyoda children under 8.

        More seriously, I make frequent use of this process but was not aware it was a documented thing. It's very useful in identifying an issue and breaking it down into more basic problems. But then I hit the usual hurdle of someone with authority to action a required change digging their heels in...generally because money :P

          But that's when you do the 5 Why's again when you can't get authoritative action stage: I can't move on this with project
          - Why?: My boss won't sign off on helping me with something
          - Why?: Because he's too busy for me and isn't seeing what I do as a priority
          - Why?: Because he's incompetent has too many projects to handle effectively, and perhaps is lucky to be in his position
          - Why?: Because I haven't started a revolution and rose to the top to take control myself
          - Why?: Because vidya games

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      If you draw a pentagram pentagon with equal sides around the outside of the earth and then draw 5 equal circles (as large as possible without overlapping) with the centre/origin of the circle being the angles of the pentagram. Then the largest circle you can draw within the middle of the earth inside the 5 circles is the diameter of the moon.

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        I'mma need a diagram on your geometry here, I don't get how you're drawing your pentagram.

          Why are you talking about a pentagram, I clearly said pentagon *whistles*

            Right. So the circles are at the points of the pentagon. Got it.

    @Saturday

    Your mystery box has returned to my home!! Apparently where they tried to deliver the package it was refused by the person whom they were trying to deliver to 'twice'. I'm not sure where the problem was but when I get home I'm going to have a look at the box and see where they tried to deliver to.

    I also need to to dispense with the chocolate and biscuits somehow *looks at waist line fearfully*

    Thanks to everyone for the interesting topics this arvo. Helped pass the time, and it's always really nice pushing your brain to think about new/different things.

      Thinking is for squares! LOOOOOOOLZ

        LOLZORZ XD XD

        Seriously though I was reminiscing to a time when I was just a little boy, and remembering I thought I had in my mind about what sort of job I'd like to do after I finish school (I was bout 11 or 12 at the time).

        I just want a job where I do what I'm told and don't have to do any problem solving, thinking for myself is too hard. What a terrible thing for a young person to think for themselves. Learning is one of the wonders of our very precious existence and I hope people feel the same way about it as I do now, where knowledge is a gift that should be both treasured and shared.

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          Conditioning's a funny thing. I did a little teacher aide work in the 00s, and I remember taking one group of four kids aside to go over some maths stuff they were lagging behind on. Can't remember if they were grade 5 or 6.

          We nattered some, went over the working and some examples, then I let them at it. They had time to work on the questions, and when they were done, I asked to see the work so I could check it. The first one said, "Here, I'm finished... but I know it's not right."
          I was pretty surprised. Arched an eyebrow and hesitated in taking the paper from the kid. I thought for a moment, and said, "What're you giving that to me for? If you don't think it's right, take it back and do it again and give me something you DO think is right."

          ALL of the kids blinked in surprise at that.
          Kid didn't know what to do with herself, there. She took it back, looked it over, puzzled, and eventually decided that actually, she did think it was right. I checked it over and noted that actually yes, it was correct.

          I'm guessing 'I know it's not right' was meant to be some sort of ego-cushioning pre-emptive self-deprecation, setting themselves up to not lose face at failing. Maybe they only 'knew' it wasn't right because they were the 'dumb group'.

          Gave 'em some mini-lecture about how I don't want them to just pretend to understand, try and fail, or try on the spot to figure out how new numbers fit into the same pattern as the examples, I'd much rather they actually understand what the process was, how it worked, why it worked and if they could do that, they could put any numbers they liked in there. Even weird or long ones. ...Didn't get real far with that, but the teacher did note that she liked how the kids were a lot more persistent and resilient about admitting they didn't understand something and asking for help.

          Conditioning. Kids are very susceptible to it. Being made to believe they're in the 'dumb group'. Hell, even gender roles... When I taught the kids computer studies stuff? Distinct gender differences. Out of some three dozen kids, all the boys would leave their hands on the keyboard or mouse and some would even race ahead, thinking they already knew what the next step would be (and many were wrong). The girls? All would perform the requested action then look and wait for new instructions. And as many of the boys as raced ahead, the girls would put their hands in their laps, away from the keyboard and mouse.
          Who teaches 10yr old kids these things?

            All very interesting stuff, when I hear about things like these examples it makes me wish I studied Sociology at Uni :(

            Gender roles are a tough one. They come from every thing that happen around you, how we were raised. And you can't discard them, many of them are there for a reason. Having a tiny little daughter it is something that worries me a lot. I don't want her to ever think she is inferior and "just a girl". But on the other side many girly things are there because little girls love it. Seeing all the little girls dressed up and going to see the princesses at Disney on ice show that they truly do love that.

              Yeah, it's gotta be tough to analyze artificial or socialized roles to distinguish between the conscious social constructs implemented for control, vs the natural tendencies that spring from the very real and all-too-often underestimated differences in male:female physiology and psychology.

              As long as no-one's judging (no matter how well-meaning) a kid for their preferences or making it out to be 'inferior', you gotta hope it's all gonna be OK...